New poll finds landslide support for voter ID

There are 57 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from Mar 5, 2009, titled New poll finds landslide support for voter ID. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

While the Legislature routinely rejects Republican efforts to require New Mexico voters to show identification when casting ballots, a newly released nonpartisan poll indicates voters would approve the idea by ...

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bob chilton

Santa Fe, NM

#45 Mar 16, 2009
similarly, as long as the new mexican is touting the pulse of the community, how about a poll on whether santa fe should be a sanctuary city.

it is an on line proposal.

vote and let the mayor, councilors and editorial staff of the new mexican appreciate your perspective on the matter.
Ret-AF

Alamogordo, NM

#47 Mar 16, 2009
Common Sense,

Your comments were timely and informative. Aside from all the usual Republican/Democrat/Obama nonsensere posted by others; you hit the nail squarely on the head.

Very important issue very important topic.
Ret-AF

Alamogordo, NM

#48 Mar 16, 2009
'Nonsense.'
Pecos Pete

Santa Fe, NM

#49 Mar 17, 2009
People like PlacitasRoy never saw a person without the right to vote. Felons, illegals, underage...whatever. Gosh, Roy has been an election judge, and with fellow judges, knows personally all of the voters. Gosh, impressive.

Betcha Mr. Roy is totally in favor of digitally recording everyone's medical records. No ID required of course, just mix his records up with someone else's. Yeah, no problem there.

Since: Sep 08

Miyazaki

#50 Mar 17, 2009
La Loba wrote:
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Good grief! Are you kidding? Who do you prosecute when you discover in May, following an November election that one person shows as having voted 3 times, absentee, early and in person? Yes, it happens! How do you know if it was 3 people or one voting 3 times? How do you find out who voted for the woman who died Sept 30 and voted early October 24th of the same year? Since her name wasn't purged, the name was on the County Clerk's list and it was never questioned when the vote was cast. When you make that discovery in June of the following year, how do you find the law breaker? If you know a way, it needs to be shared. Cheating is easy, finding the cheaters is hard. Don't live with your head in the sand!
None of the problems that you mentioned would be solved by requiring photo ID. Photo ID is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
Well

Santa Fe, NM

#51 Mar 17, 2009
Steve van Dresser wrote:
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None of the problems that you mentioned would be solved by requiring photo ID. Photo ID is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
Steve, do you have a problem with showing ID when traveling by plane to the U.S. from Japan? Getting on a plane and showing who you are is less important than voting in my opinion.

Aside from that, why would ANYONE have a problem with showing ID? I can only think of one reason.....fraud.
dont get it

Santa Fe, NM

#52 Mar 17, 2009
PlacitasRoy wrote:
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I simply don't believe you. I can't remember ever seen a single news article in all these years of a citizen making a specific accusation that THEIR vote was stolen. In all the hearings about election reform there has never been a single witness make that allegation. With several REPUBLICAN US Attorneys not a SINGLE case has been filed alleging vote theft. Having worked as an election judge in five elections, I don't think there was a single voter that at least one of us judges did not recognize.
The results of the poll isn't surprising. After 10 years of using the Department of Justice, friendly governors, and its usual propaganda outlets, cries of 'voter fraud' THE REPUBLICAN WAR ON VOTING has been somewhat successful. http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles...
Placitas, I will make a bet with you. I will bet you that this is a true story and have it verified with the clerks office....you come with me to verify. And then when you get proof in person, you have to post on this blog that you were wrong!

Since: Sep 08

Miyazaki

#53 Mar 17, 2009
Well wrote:
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Steve, do you have a problem with showing ID when traveling by plane to the U.S. from Japan? Getting on a plane and showing who you are is less important than voting in my opinion.
Aside from that, why would ANYONE have a problem with showing ID? I can only think of one reason.....fraud.
As I pointed out earlier in this thread, there is nobody for me to show photo ID to. To whom should I show my ID? The Japanese postal clerk who takes my paper absentee ballot? Should I expose my passport to my computer screen when I vote by e-mail? Or should I take a couple of days off work and spend about $500 to go to Tokyo to show my passport and ballot to some official at the American Embassy? Just to get a document notarized costs more than $100.

Most voter fraud takes place with absentee ballots. Nobody shows ID to anyone when they vote absentee. Requiring photo ID only for people who actually go to the polls does absolutely nothing to prevent voter fraud where it actually occurs, which is with voters who don't go to the polls.

If I were required to spend a lot of my own money to travel back to the United States to appear at a poll in Santa Fe and show photo ID to vote, I might be able to do that. But it would be a horrible inconvenience. Many otherwise qualified voters would be totally disenfranchised.
PlacitasRoy

Placitas, NM

#54 Mar 17, 2009
dont get it wrote:
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Placitas, I will make a bet with you. I will bet you that this is a true story and have it verified with the clerks office....you come with me to verify. And then when you get proof in person, you have to post on this blog that you were wrong!
I ain't making a nonsensical bet or going anywhere to meet someone who isn't going to show up.
What did the newspaper say when you reported it to them? How about those 'investigative' eyewitness news TV reporters? They're always looking for a hot button scandal. What did the DA say? And most importantly what did the REPUBLICAN US Attorney say?
I still don't believe it.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#55 Mar 17, 2009
It doesn't surprise me about the poll. Hell Dubya and the boys got 80% or so of the folks believing there were WMDs in Iraq. Same bunch running the 'voter fraud' propaganda effort. Fat Druggie and the other Reich-wing hate merchants, Foxhole, and the wingnuts.
Well

Albuquerque, NM

#56 Mar 17, 2009
Steve van Dresser wrote:
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As I pointed out earlier in this thread, there is nobody for me to show photo ID to. To whom should I show my ID? The Japanese postal clerk who takes my paper absentee ballot? Should I expose my passport to my computer screen when I vote by e-mail? Or should I take a couple of days off work and spend about $500 to go to Tokyo to show my passport and ballot to some official at the American Embassy? Just to get a document notarized costs more than $100.
Most voter fraud takes place with absentee ballots. Nobody shows ID to anyone when they vote absentee. Requiring photo ID only for people who actually go to the polls does absolutely nothing to prevent voter fraud where it actually occurs, which is with voters who don't go to the polls.
If I were required to spend a lot of my own money to travel back to the United States to appear at a poll in Santa Fe and show photo ID to vote, I might be able to do that. But it would be a horrible inconvenience. Many otherwise qualified voters would be totally disenfranchised.
All good points, but I still don't see why it is an issue to show an ID when a person is voting at the poles. I know in my case, there was a checkmark nest to my name that indicated I voted at the poles....which is how I discovered someone voted in my place.
dont get it

Albuquerque, NM

#57 Mar 17, 2009
PlacitasRoy wrote:
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I ain't making a nonsensical bet or going anywhere to meet someone who isn't going to show up.
What did the newspaper say when you reported it to them? How about those 'investigative' eyewitness news TV reporters? They're always looking for a hot button scandal. What did the DA say? And most importantly what did the REPUBLICAN US Attorney say?
I still don't believe it.
Didn't think you would take the bet. Man, your tirades about the right wing conspiracy is getting tiresome. I am not trying to make a fight with you, just letting you know of MY EXPERIENCE. That's all.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#58 Mar 17, 2009
Well wrote:
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All good points, but I still don't see why it is an issue to show an ID when a person is voting at the poles. I know in my case, there was a checkmark nest to my name that indicated I voted at the poles....which is how I discovered someone voted in my place.
Your story doesn't jive. If you voted in person at an early voting site, that is printed on the voter roll print out we judges have at the site. If there was a check mark on the voter roll, there is a signature on the other copy of the voter roll.

" When voting early, the voter shall provide the required voter identification to the county clerk or the clerk's authorized representative. If the voter does not provide the required voter identification, the voter shall be allowed to vote on a provisional ballot. If the voter provides the required identification, the voter shall be allowed to vote after subscribing an application to vote in accordance with secretary of state rules. The county clerk or the clerk's authorized representative shall make an appropriate designation on the signature roster next to the voter's name indicating that the voter has voted early." Section 1-6-5.7 Early voting; use of absentee voting procedures; alternate voting locations.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#59 Mar 17, 2009
Well wrote:
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Steve, do you have a problem with showing ID when traveling by plane to the U.S. from Japan? Getting on a plane and showing who you are is less important than voting in my opinion.
Aside from that, why would ANYONE have a problem with showing ID? I can only think of one reason.....fraud.
Or they don't have one. There are ID requirements....just no photo ID
Peralta de Peralta

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#60 Apr 5, 2011
"The number of foreign nationals who are voting illegally in local, state, and federal elections has risen over the years. Why? Because the U.S. government continues to lower voting requirements, such as no longer requiring that voters attest to U.S. citizenship. According to an article in The Hill, the Colorado secretary of state indicates that about 5,000 illegal aliens voted in that state in 2010."

Read more on Newsmax.com : Illegals Voting Represents Disturbing Trend
http://www.newsmax.com/JamesWalsh/barack-obam...
artur

Albuquerque, NM

#61 Apr 5, 2011
Most American lovers of equality and our constitutional republic would not wish their very precious franchise to be diluted by foriegn bodies any more than a mother would have her child's milk sullied by arsenic.
Duffas

Albuquerque, NM

#62 Apr 5, 2011
M Pearce wrote:
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If you poll the disenfranchised, are they still disenfranchised?
You mean they can't get a McD franchise?

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