New poll finds landslide support for ...

New poll finds landslide support for voter ID

There are 57 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from Mar 5, 2009, titled New poll finds landslide support for voter ID. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

While the Legislature routinely rejects Republican efforts to require New Mexico voters to show identification when casting ballots, a newly released nonpartisan poll indicates voters would approve the idea by ...

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PolThinker

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Mar 6, 2009
Other than looking at me, how can one tell if I'm white?

“Orwell said this would happen.”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#23 Mar 6, 2009
PlacitasRoy wrote:
"Why would anyone be opposed to having to use a positive proof of identification?"
Ask those nuns in Indiana.
Why don't nuns have ID?
ted

Lincoln, NE

#24 Mar 6, 2009
antiquelt wrote:
Voter ID is just another way to surpress voting...sounds good but a truly bad idea.
Must be an ACORN worked for the Dems.
the

Santa Fe, NM

#25 Mar 6, 2009
M Pearce wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't nuns have ID?
mother superior buys the beer. For it is written...
Ivan Sanchez

AOL

#26 Mar 6, 2009
I think itís a great idea to show picture ID when voting otherwise no telling how many illegal immigrants have already voted!
Doinky

Albuquerque, NM

#27 Mar 6, 2009
What is the problem? Most people already carry their ID with them all the time! between the ID and signature verification, it should be foolproof.

And I am not talking about a program we don't have money for that involves 'new' ID cards. That IS a stupid idea.

Another idea would be to move to 100% mail-in ballots. No real registration-y, phony/wrong address-y, no vote-y vote-y~

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#28 Mar 6, 2009
Voter With No Name wrote:
Don't mind Roy. The primary qualification of his favorite presidential candidate was the organization of voter fraud in Chicago.(As if the city which virtually invented voter fraud actually needed the help!)
Cracking down on voter fraud might mean that the next Obama out there has to spend his formative years peddling cocaine instead of working for ACORN. What a loss to the nation that would be!
Another anonymous, inane, hit and run, mental midget flamer with nothing but puppycr@rp to offer.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#29 Mar 6, 2009
M Pearce wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't nuns have ID?
They didn't have "Photo IS" Have no idea. Same reason 8 -12% of the elderly have no photo IDs.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#30 Mar 6, 2009
Shoe wrote:
<quoted text>You forgot to mention that your mother dropped you on your head when you were born.
Another anonymous, inane, hit and run, mental midget flamer with nothing but puppycr@rp to offer.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#31 Mar 6, 2009
Common Sense wrote:
In the last election, a friend was a poll watcher during early voting. While standing in line to work the poll, he heard a group of people behind him boast about voting 5 times. Once inside, he looked at them and recognized them from another polling place where he worked a few days prior. So he went to the polling judge and said - these people already voted. The judge simply said - there's no way we can check to see if that is true - and they were all allowed to vote again. Another friend was approached by a young person doing voter registration. She said "I'm aready registered." The registrar said "you can just change your name a bit and use a relative's address and you can register again." Don't tell me fraud doesn't happen. What is troubling is not just that elections can be won or lost by this kind of fraud but there are so many people willing to break the law. Electing people to represent us, to make laws, to decide on taxes and programs that affect our lives - this is not American Idol where you can vote often for your choice. One citizen. One vote. I also spoke with the County Clerk and asked specifically how they verify citizenship - since in NM illegals can get a drivers license and even those here legally have a D.L. and documents like Social Security cards are quite easy to get / forge. She and her assistant could not answer that question except to say that since the applicants sign / attest to the truthfulness on the application, they trust them. While I'm at it, anyone with an 8th grade education knows that voting is a privelege, a right and a responsibility, you have to be registered to vote - so why would people wait until the last minute to register???? Political parties try to rally their troops, create excitement and get people to the polls. I would much rather win or lose an election based on people voting who actually cared enough about this solemn responsiblity than to have a bunch of sheep follow some leader who says "Just vote straight party ticket."
Yes, we need Voter ID (another person had the same experience of finding out that someone had voted in her name and was not able to have her vote count). We need to be able to verify SS#, citizenship status and prosecute those who break the law!!!!
Yeah... and I'm sure you called the authorities. I'm sure you pointed it out to the poll workers.
I'm not going to call you a liar....just going to say I don't believe you because you are probably making **** up.
Common Sense

Sandia Park, NM

#34 Mar 6, 2009
Roy - the incidents were reported by the people involved to election officials. What kind of a person are you that would think someone would just make up these stories? Where have you been? These incidents have been reported in New Mexico (and other states) for YEARS! Don't believe I talked with the Clerk of Court, Valerie Espinoza? Don't believe she and her assistant drew a blank when I asked how she checked to make sure someone is a citizen eligible to vote or that they only check SS# with a STATE database, not a FEDERAL database? Get a life. Get a brain. If you open your eyes to reality, you might actually learn something.

Since: Sep 08

Miyazaki

#35 Mar 6, 2009
I have been a registered New Mexico voter for about 45 years and I vote. But, I haven't voted in person since 1993.

Most voter fraud occurs with absentee ballots. So, to whom am I supposed to show photo ID? My wife? My internet service provider who relays my request for an absentee ballot? The Japanese mailman who picks up my ballot? Or do you want me to go to the American Embassy in Tokyo, a thousand miles away, to show some American consul my passport every couple of years?

Nowadays, absentee and mail in ballots make up a large proportion of all votes cast. How does anyone know who filled in those ballots? Is there any way of knowing whether a husband respected his wife's privacy when she filled in her ballot? Or whether an employer (or union boss) lined up his workers and had them publicly fill in their ballots? In California last November, more than 40% of all ballots were mailed in. Nobody is checking ID photos on those ballots.

In the past eight years, with backing from the Bush White House, the Justice Department went wholeheartedly after voter fraud. In eight years they turned up seventeen instances of aliens attempting to vote -- about four attempts by aliens to vote nationally in each federal election cycle. None of those cases involved illegal aliens, by the way, as far as I have been able to determine.

Voter ID is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist and offers no solutions to the problems that do exist. The government should be looking for solutions to make it easier for every who is entitled to vote to cast their ballots, rather than to make it harder.

Since: Sep 08

Miyazaki

#36 Mar 6, 2009
I should give credit for that 17 aliens attempting to vote statistic. Babe Rainbow dug it up but neither of us has been able to find that Justice Department report again.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#37 Mar 6, 2009
I almost always vote absentee as well.
Paleface

Albuquerque, NM

#38 Mar 7, 2009
PlacentaBoy wrote:
will say I have no proof. What more proof do I need, the socialists bought the Mexican vote with the promise of jobs, free housing, food, and probably women.
You win the big prize of the week for having 'socialism' and 'Mexicans' in the same sentence. If you can squeeze in Athiest next time, you will be the all time Champion Fearmonger. Yaaaaaay.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#40 Mar 7, 2009
dont get it wrote:
<quoted text>
Placitas.....are you opposed the the rule that a person has to apply for a gun permit and submit to a background check before buying one? I am sure you are not (based upon your very liberal posts), but this is a similar proposal....to ensure that criminals can't buy guns. And, to answer your question about filing reports: The county clerk is the ONE who gave me the provisional ballot and said they "would look into it." I spent almost 5 hours trying to vote because of this issue and had absolutely no more time or the desire to to follow up on it. More to the point, why should I? Which is the whole point of this bill...if the person who fraudulently used my name had positive ID, none of this would have happened. Comprende?
I simply don't believe you. I can't remember ever seen a single news article in all these years of a citizen making a specific accusation that THEIR vote was stolen. In all the hearings about election reform there has never been a single witness make that allegation. With several REPUBLICAN US Attorneys not a SINGLE case has been filed alleging vote theft. Having worked as an election judge in five elections, I don't think there was a single voter that at least one of us judges did not recognize.

The results of the poll isn't surprising. After 10 years of using the Department of Justice, friendly governors, and its usual propaganda outlets, cries of 'voter fraud' THE REPUBLICAN WAR ON VOTING has been somewhat successful. http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles...

Since: Feb 09

Santa Fe

#41 Mar 7, 2009
PlacitasRoy wrote:
<quoted text>
I simply don't believe you. I can't remember ever seen a single news article in all these years of a citizen making a specific accusation that THEIR vote was stolen. In all the hearings about election reform there has never been a single witness make that allegation. With several REPUBLICAN US Attorneys not a SINGLE case has been filed alleging vote theft. Having worked as an election judge in five elections, I don't think there was a single voter that at least one of us judges did not recognize.
The results of the poll isn't surprising. After 10 years of using the Department of Justice, friendly governors, and its usual propaganda outlets, cries of 'voter fraud' THE REPUBLICAN WAR ON VOTING has been somewhat successful. http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles...
Think it matters if YOU believe this person? nope.

Since: Sep 08

Placitas, NM

#42 Mar 7, 2009
Not in Ill bad speller wrote:
<quoted text>
Think it matters if YOU believe this person? nope.
Doesn't matter one damn bit. But the reasons I don't simply exposes the nonsense on the assault on voting rights.
La Loba

Albuquerque, NM

#43 Mar 16, 2009
In Dona Ana County we see regularly the problem of individuals going to the polls and being told someone voted in their name already. They are allowed to vote Provisionally, but there is NO REMEDY UNDER NEW MEXICO LAW to the innocent voter whose vote was stolen. There is documentation of elections being given to the wrong candidate, but the court decisions took 6 years to reach and the term was for only 4 years so the courts said, "You were right! Our bad!" I personally am listed as having voted twice in 2004. I did vote once. I don't know who cast the second vote in my name that was counted according to the records of the Dona Ana County Clerk. I could just go on and on....Photo ID yes!!!! Same day voter registration NO!!!! Let's do things honestly....now THAT's a change I could believe in!
La Loba

Albuquerque, NM

#44 Mar 16, 2009
Steve van Dresser wrote:
I have been a registered New Mexico voter for about 45 years and I vote. But, I haven't voted in person since 1993.
Most voter fraud occurs with absentee ballots. So, to whom am I supposed to show photo ID? My wife? My internet service provider who relays my request for an absentee ballot? The Japanese mailman who picks up my ballot? Or do you want me to go to the American Embassy in Tokyo, a thousand miles away, to show some American consul my passport every couple of years?
Nowadays, absentee and mail in ballots make up a large proportion of all votes cast. How does anyone know who filled in those ballots? Is there any way of knowing whether a husband respected his wife's privacy when she filled in her ballot? Or whether an employer (or union boss) lined up his workers and had them publicly fill in their ballots? In California last November, more than 40% of all ballots were mailed in. Nobody is checking ID photos on those ballots.
In the past eight years, with backing from the Bush White House, the Justice Department went wholeheartedly after voter fraud. In eight years they turned up seventeen instances of aliens attempting to vote -- about four attempts by aliens to vote nationally in each federal election cycle. None of those cases involved illegal aliens, by the way, as far as I have been able to determine.
Voter ID is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist and offers no solutions to the problems that do exist. The government should be looking for solutions to make it easier for every who is entitled to vote to cast their ballots, rather than to make it harder.
Good grief! Are you kidding? Who do you prosecute when you discover in May, following an November election that one person shows as having voted 3 times, absentee, early and in person? Yes, it happens! How do you know if it was 3 people or one voting 3 times? How do you find out who voted for the woman who died Sept 30 and voted early October 24th of the same year? Since her name wasn't purged, the name was on the County Clerk's list and it was never questioned when the vote was cast. When you make that discovery in June of the following year, how do you find the law breaker? If you know a way, it needs to be shared. Cheating is easy, finding the cheaters is hard. Don't live with your head in the sand!

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