Short-term rentals: Revisiting a contentious issue

More than a year after the Santa Fe City Council passed an ordinance regulating the capital's short-term rental industry, nobody seems happy with it. Full Story
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Mark R

Santa Fe, NM

#1 Jun 10, 2009
Give me a break! Not that many? They are all over Santa Fe, and many are not registering because the city won't do anything about it!! They ruin wonderful neighborhoods and complexes. Did anyone notice how many "furnished long term rentals" popped up on the market when the city anounced they would be "enforcing" the ordinance? Most of the management companies (ie: Casas de Santa Fe) try to manage their properties so that the people they rent to abide by the ordinace and maintain some sort of quality of life for the neighbors. BUT, the blaggards that are individually owned and rented on VRBO or Craigslist, and are not registered don't care about their neighbors, community or city, and, Guess What - they don't live next door to their own rentals (wonder why?). Loud, obnoxious renters are not dealt with and the owners who are only trying to make a buck at the neighbor's expense should have their property confiscated and sold. It is like living in or next to a cheap hotel, with no ammenities. PLEASE - Leave the ordinace in place, hike the fees and enforce it!! The people who have vacation rentals in this town can afford it (unlike the locals/neighbors who are "stuck" living next to it - and can't afford to move or sell their house).
Billy

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Jun 10, 2009
STFU and grow a pair!
Mark R wrote:
Give me a break! Not that many? They are all over Santa Fe, and many are not registering because the city won't do anything about it!! They ruin wonderful neighborhoods and complexes. Did anyone notice how many "furnished long term rentals" popped up on the market when the city anounced they would be "enforcing" the ordinance? Most of the management companies (ie: Casas de Santa Fe) try to manage their properties so that the people they rent to abide by the ordinace and maintain some sort of quality of life for the neighbors. BUT, the blaggards that are individually owned and rented on VRBO or Craigslist, and are not registered don't care about their neighbors, community or city, and, Guess What - they don't live next door to their own rentals (wonder why?). Loud, obnoxious renters are not dealt with and the owners who are only trying to make a buck at the neighbor's expense should have their property confiscated and sold. It is like living in or next to a cheap hotel, with no ammenities. PLEASE - Leave the ordinace in place, hike the fees and enforce it!! The people who have vacation rentals in this town can afford it (unlike the locals/neighbors who are "stuck" living next to it - and can't afford to move or sell their house).
train boy

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Jun 10, 2009
Meanwhile, according to a recent staff report, the city has spent about $249,000 enforcing the ordinance so far.

Your tax dollars at work.
sanafepea

New Albany, MS

#4 Jun 11, 2009
obviously train boy and Mark R. have never had to live next to one of these short term rentals - and

"further deterioration of real-estate values in Santa Fe." - thats a realtor for you - self serving b------- all of them
Doinky

Corrales, NM

#5 Jun 11, 2009
Of course there are unpermitted rentals. It should take a few high school students less than a week to phone them all up using internet, print ads and other leads. Then the city would have a complete list.

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe

#6 Jun 11, 2009
Many of my neighbors rent short term. As well they should if they see fit. I ain`t gunna snitch.
I care about my neighbors more than I do Illegitimate laws.
Laws are made to broken anyway.
Someone once said we were free.
I say we`re far from free.
John Rohncanna

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Jun 11, 2009
Quoting Dena Aquilina, "she does not have faith in the city's enforcement and believes there are un-permitted rentals operating in the city." Well if we go about believing something, it comes true. Why do we always assume? I wish this paper and city would get some accurate numbers rather than creating a belief and reacting to that belief. Appears Todd Davis has a good idea of what is happening.
George Johnson

Santa Fe, NM

#8 Jun 11, 2009
I've posted a map at The Santa Fe Review, http://santafereview.com , showing where all the rentals -- the registered ones -- are located.
Charlito

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Jun 11, 2009
The City should not be spending hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars to "regulate" short term rentals. The Council should simply impose a flat-out ban on short term rentals in any part of the City zoned for residential use. Let's call "renting on a short term basis" what it really is - a business venture. Business ventures have no place in residential neighborhoods, particularly when the owner of the rental property conveniently lives elsewhere. The "short term" renters who come to Santa Fe can stay in one of the multitude of motels, hotels and B&B's that Santa Fe has to offer and at the same time help out our hospitality industry. If someone in a residential neighborhood has a home they want to rent out, then they can find a long-term tenant who will respect the neighborhood. The City Council needs to stop dancing around on this issue and protect the neighborhoods.
whats the big deal

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Jun 11, 2009
when a house is rented full time......do those renters wreck the neighborhood? do people who live in and own their own home not have loud parties or cause trouble? do people who visit this city come here with the intent to wreck a neighborhood? do people who have home businesses not have ups and fedex trucks arriving daily? please someone tell me the difference between people who choose to visit santa fe because they are excited and happy about coming to our great city and the angry, disgruntled citizens who could potentially be much worse than any tourist.
i just don't buy that people coming and going from a house is a disruption to a neighboorhood!
Pete

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Jun 11, 2009
I've lived in the Historic East Side for 12 years, give me a tourist any given day of the week, absolutely nothing wrong with them.
Also, my property and the last time that I checked...you can run many businesses out of your own home...why are you so concerned? You live in Albuquerque!
Charlito wrote:
The City should not be spending hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars to "regulate" short term rentals. The Council should simply impose a flat-out ban on short term rentals in any part of the City zoned for residential use. Let's call "renting on a short term basis" what it really is - a business venture. Business ventures have no place in residential neighborhoods, particularly when the owner of the rental property conveniently lives elsewhere. The "short term" renters who come to Santa Fe can stay in one of the multitude of motels, hotels and B&B's that Santa Fe has to offer and at the same time help out our hospitality industry. If someone in a residential neighborhood has a home they want to rent out, then they can find a long-term tenant who will respect the neighborhood. The City Council needs to stop dancing around on this issue and protect the neighborhoods.
Missy

Troy, NY

#12 Jun 11, 2009
Have you checked out NoPayTenants.com ?

Here's the link http://nopaytenants.com/
Also

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Jun 11, 2009
The Unlicensed Short Term Rentals pay no Lodgers Tax, which hurts us all.

It is simply an unregulated clandestine industry that has run it's course and now must live up to and follow the same rules as any other business.

I bet the majority of these places lie to their their insurance agents and companies about what they are doing.

I bet the majority of these places staff the service crews with undocumented workers. Who knows what they pay? Worker Comp Insurance and benefits? NOT EVEN.

Proper reporting of income? Sheeiit.

It's a bunch of pirates sucking the cream off the top of the legit cities efforts.

NO NEW LAWS...NONE. JUST ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAW.

Bring these rats out into the open.
Mia

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Jun 11, 2009
If I have a relative come to visit - for a week - or have a hometender stay at my house while I am on vacation, which neighborhood watchdog am I supposed to report it to? Get real people. How can people say that tourists are the only loud and disruptive people in this City? And I really wish the would "tourist" would stop being used in a negative sense. For many, including some who post here, these big, bad tourists are your life blood.
Don't bit the hand that feeds you!
Mia

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Jun 11, 2009
Correction: Don't bite the hand that feeds you!
Santa Fe Rentals

Santa Fe, NM

#16 Jun 11, 2009
There are tons of legitimate Vacation Rental Businesses inside the Santa Fe BCD/Commercial zone. And none of them are doing that well.

Here are three or four.

http://www.casitas.net

http://www.casa232.com

http://www.adobestarinn.com/Sunflower.html

All of these business are locally owned and operated all of the money stays in Santa Fe and none of them have occupancy rates above 50 percent. WHY ??

Out of town property owners using websites like VRBO and Vacation Rentals dot com to compete with them.

Don't forget Fort Marcy, Villas de Santa Fe, and all the other Condo projects that are and always have been legally zoned vacation rentals. No body is doing any good because there is too much competition from the illegal vacation rental industry.
What a shame

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Jun 11, 2009
The city had to spend a quarter of a million dollars to figure out something was not as the few neighborhood folks said it was.

Imagine a new police car or fire truck, another fireman or officer hired, another road paved, trees planted in parks, and the list goes on.

Since: Sep 08

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#18 Jun 11, 2009
Short term renters have caused zero problems in my neighborhood, and there are quite a few of them. I think some people just aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.
Marco Polo

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Jun 11, 2009
You haven't a clue...back to the peanut gallery for you!
Also wrote:
The Unlicensed Short Term Rentals pay no Lodgers Tax, which hurts us all.
It is simply an unregulated clandestine industry that has run it's course and now must live up to and follow the same rules as any other business.
I bet the majority of these places lie to their their insurance agents and companies about what they are doing.
I bet the majority of these places staff the service crews with undocumented workers. Who knows what they pay? Worker Comp Insurance and benefits? NOT EVEN.
Proper reporting of income? Sheeiit.
It's a bunch of pirates sucking the cream off the top of the legit cities efforts.
NO NEW LAWS...NONE. JUST ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAW.
Bring these rats out into the open.
haveaniceday

Pasadena, TX

#20 Jun 11, 2009
well I guess this bill has some sort of benefits I just fail to see them. speaking of people finding new shelter after loosing their homes, I found this the other day, its funny http://www.typobounty.com/Funny/Foreclosure.h...

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