Zia Road station remains in limbo

Santa Fe passengers who want to ride the New Mexico Rail Runner Express must board the train downtown, either at the Railyard depot or at the South Capitol station. Full Story
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Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe

#1 Apr 25, 2009
I hope this is resolved soon. I live close by and would totally take advantage of the stop instead of having to deal with the downtown chaos.
local

Santa Fe, NM

#2 Apr 25, 2009
Oh come on, all your doing is postponing a good thing for Santa Fe residents. I am sure that a traffic study was already done before you even moved here. I for one would like to see this station up and running before long because it is closer to home
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Apr 25, 2009
C'mon...just open the damn station! It's already built, fercrissakes.
The locals are just gonna hire someone who'll "spin" it their way--coming up with lame excuse after lame excuse.

And while we're at it...when will someone build a Richards Avenue exit off I-25??
Cesar Roma

Pleasanton, CA

#4 Apr 26, 2009
It has been built and people are ready to come. Get it over with already.
Master Debater

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Apr 26, 2009
SF Brown wants to build a commercial and residential project at the site, along with a train station building near the platform. Neighborhood concerns about traffic impact and density have slowed the company's timeline significantly.
People who buy houses next to empty lots, then **** about what gets proposed/built there deserve whatever they get. Unless you want to buy the empty lot then be quiet.
DLL

Anjo, Japan

#6 Apr 26, 2009
"We are so deep into this that we are just champing at the bit to get this thing out," said Merritt Brown, a partner with SF Brown developers. "Right now, we have been in a holding pattern. We have been trying to work with the neighbors.... We are still in disagreement about some things."

Bull! What they're trying to do is railroad (pardon the pun) their plan through as is. Don't try to make the residents of the community into stubborn obstructionists. Brown is the stubborn one in not wanting to change the hideous plans he wants to dump on this community. And they're trying to "influence" the right politicians to get it through. I'd like to see this same plan foisted on the, say, residents off of Tano in Las Campanas--no way in h..l! Why does the south side always have to accept the burden of ugly strip malls and crass business parks? They should build something that benefits the community for the long term--not just for Brown's short-term profits. I'll bet Brown's home has really nice views; why does he want to deprive the Candlelight Neighborhood of the same? Why does he want to increase traffic above what is already too much? Neighborhood acceptance, my butt--neighborhood acquiescence is what it's really about.
colette Feinberg

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Apr 26, 2009
Are there any plans to have the trains going to ABQ other than just commuter times. which means one would have to stay all day in ABq.
Phil

United States

#9 Apr 26, 2009
I guess all the neighbors have forgotten the lovely pumice factory that was replaced by the Railrunner Station - ah for the good old days!
Just open it!
Puulllleeeezzzze

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Apr 26, 2009
DLL wrote:
"We are so deep into this that we are just champing at the bit to get this thing out," said Merritt Brown, a partner with SF Brown developers. "Right now, we have been in a holding pattern. We have been trying to work with the neighbors.... We are still in disagreement about some things."
Bull! What they're trying to do is railroad (pardon the pun) their plan through as is. Don't try to make the residents of the community into stubborn obstructionists. Brown is the stubborn one in not wanting to change the hideous plans he wants to dump on this community. And they're trying to "influence" the right politicians to get it through. I'd like to see this same plan foisted on the, say, residents off of Tano in Las Campanas--no way in h..l! Why does the south side always have to accept the burden of ugly strip malls and crass business parks? They should build something that benefits the community for the long term--not just for Brown's short-term profits. I'll bet Brown's home has really nice views; why does he want to deprive the Candlelight Neighborhood of the same? Why does he want to increase traffic above what is already too much? Neighborhood acceptance, my butt--neighborhood acquiescence is what it's really about.
Candlelight had "nice" views of a pumice plant. And on windy days, nice views of pumice dust. Life is full of changes, deal with it. Oh, and what about the prarie dogs?
just thinking

Boulder, CO

#11 Apr 26, 2009
DLL wrote:
"We are so deep into this that we are just champing at the bit to get this thing out," said Merritt Brown, a partner with SF Brown developers. "Right now, we have been in a holding pattern. We have been trying to work with the neighbors.... We are still in disagreement about some things."
Bull! What they're trying to do is railroad (pardon the pun) their plan through as is. Don't try to make the residents of the community into stubborn obstructionists. Brown is the stubborn one in not wanting to change the hideous plans he wants to dump on this community. And they're trying to "influence" the right politicians to get it through. I'd like to see this same plan foisted on the, say, residents off of Tano in Las Campanas--no way in h..l! Why does the south side always have to accept the burden of ugly strip malls and crass business parks? They should build something that benefits the community for the long term--not just for Brown's short-term profits. I'll bet Brown's home has really nice views; why does he want to deprive the Candlelight Neighborhood of the same? Why does he want to increase traffic above what is already too much? Neighborhood acceptance, my butt--neighborhood acquiescence is what it's really about.
Short term profit? They have been trying to develop this property in the CORRECT way, trying to involve the surrounding neighbors. I live in the neighborhood and have seen some of the preliminary ideas. These plans are what is needed in the city. Santa Fe was rated as having the third worst urban sprawl, based on population sizes. What these developers are trying to do is what the city government won't do, take the lead. If you go to any of the more developed cities that are in similar size to Santa Fe, this is what is happening. I hate to muddle this with trite political sayings, but it is time for actual "change", not just settling for the old, broken ways of doing things.
Eideard

Santa Fe, NM

#12 Apr 26, 2009
Is there any way to give the neighborhood back their scenic cement plant/ The one that sat there belching out smoke and crud for decades?

NIMBY's are incredible. They'd rather have nothing change than to improve a bloody thing on the planet - for for a neighbor who lives more than 6 blocks away.
Nuckin Futs

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Apr 26, 2009
A "neighbor" is doing a traffic plan? Talk about a fox in the hen house! What a joke. I ride the train all the time and need to get off there! What views??? I've seen the plans and they are very, very progressive. Every city I've lived in had higher real estate rates around a train station. This reminds me of the people who bought next to the airport and then complain about airplane noise.

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe

#14 Apr 26, 2009
This is all moot.
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Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe

#15 Apr 26, 2009
santos

Santa Fe, NM

#16 Apr 26, 2009
Nuckin Futs wrote:
A "neighbor" is doing a traffic plan? Talk about a fox in the hen house! What a joke. I ride the train all the time and need to get off there! What views??? I've seen the plans and they are very, very progressive. Every city I've lived in had higher real estate rates around a train station. This reminds me of the people who bought next to the airport and then complain about airplane noise.
It does make sense to open it, but along with the increased value in real estate, there is also the increase in burglaries and violent crime by the riffraff that will arrive from Albuquerque. A security and police patrol plan is needed to accompany the opening of the new Zia Station.

Fait accompli.
Raffriff

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Apr 26, 2009
santos wrote:
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It does make sense to open it, but along with the increased value in real estate, there is also the increase in burglaries and violent crime by the riffraff that will arrive from Albuquerque. A security and police patrol plan is needed to accompany the opening of the new Zia Station.
Fait accompli.
I would think the riffraff would go downtown to do their riffraffing. I really can't see them getting off at Zia and then standing there an hour later waiting to get back on the train to Alb. with a big screen TV they've just stolen in a burglary.
Yeah

Rio Rancho, NM

#18 Apr 27, 2009
santos wrote:
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It does make sense to open it, but along with the increased value in real estate, there is also the increase in burglaries and violent crime by the riffraff that will arrive from Albuquerque. A security and police patrol plan is needed to accompany the opening of the new Zia Station.
Fait accompli.
Okay, let me see if I understand your point. The "riffraff" from ABQ are going to come to Santa Fe, disembark at Zia Road, party at Albertsons across the road, maybe go into Office Depot and steal a ream of paper and then start in on the neighborhoods. So, after terrorizing the retail center across the street, then they are going to start ripping off houses in the neighborhood. Perhaps they will break into someone's home, steal the 42 inch plasma TV, and then make a break for it on the "get-a-way train?"

Give me some of what you are smokin bro, it's got to be good to come up with a scene like that. In case you haven't noticed, it's not the Santa Fe folks that should be afraid of the ABQ riffraff, it's the Santa Fe folks that should be afraid of our own riffraff.

There is one thing you are correct about though, the ABQ homeless are sure to feel a whole lot more welcome in Santa Fe with Coss, Bushee and Wurzie in office. We are the "inclusive" city, remember. If I were mayor Chavez, I would be buying them one-way tickets to "inclusive paradise" today.
DLL

Anjo, Japan

#19 Apr 27, 2009
I never said I was against opening the station--I think most in Candlelight want it open ASAP. It's Brown that's holding it hostage in order to ram through what he wants without change. And the bit about the pumice plant, duh! Of course everyone is glad to see that ugly thing go, but we don't want it replaced with another eyesore. This issue is about OVER development--not just no to development. Some of you are so quick to jump to conclusions just for the sake of deriding others you know nothing about. Maybe you wouldn't mind me opening up an an adult video/liquor store next to your residence--NIMBY. The true NIMBY live on the north side of town. Again how many business parks do you see off of Tano or perhaps Mansion Ridge? And the airport comment is just stupid. Original residents of Candlelight were promised that Zia would never go through, and now it's a virtual interstate without any sound walls like, again, you see on the north side.

Alright, now it's the developer-is-always-right peanut gallery's turn.
Maureen

Santa Fe, NM

#20 Apr 27, 2009
Let the train stop at Zia and St Francis; ignore the neighborhood association......half of them haven't even lived here long enough to warrant an opinion.
I see

Santa Fe, NM

#21 Apr 27, 2009
Maureen wrote:
Let the train stop at Zia and St Francis; ignore the neighborhood association......half of them haven't even lived here long enough to warrant an opinion.
there is now a residency requirement for having an opinion? What an idiotic statement. An intelligence test might be more appropriate - institute it here first.

Of course you are completely all wet about the neighborhood composition, anyway.

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