Lawsuits don't drain Kokesh's optimism

Lawsuits don't drain Kokesh's optimism

There are 23 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from Jul 3, 2009, titled Lawsuits don't drain Kokesh's optimism. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

Venture capitalist says he's 'flush with cash' and working through the issues in face of possible foreclosures Tom Sharpe The New Mexican Santa Fe venture capitalist Charles Kokesh's financial empire continues to founder while his son, Adam Kokesh, looks to run for the U.S. House of Representatives.

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Mora Heir

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Jul 4, 2009
If this greedy guy thinks he is going to use all that fresh potable water from the Hagerman Well to feed his horses and irrigate his polo grounds every day for the wealthy and rich, he is mistaken. The county should be requiring for this landowner to cease using fresh potable water for irrigating his fields. This landowner does not have those legal water rights like he says.

This Hagerman Well should of been capped long time ago and the District Court Judge does not have a clue on the legality of who really owns those water-rights from this Hagerman Well either.

The State Engineer's Office should be investigating why they did not forfit the original water-rights back in the 1970's from PNM when they owned it and bought this well from Charles Hagerman. This well was dormant and out of commission for a long time and the previous owners stop using it prior to Kokesh and even before Kokesh bought this property. I believe Jim Alley and his Partnership also know better not to have use this well long time ago because of the legality of water-rights ownership.

So, why isn't the county doing anything about it? Cap this well and stop Kokesh from sucking up all the fresh water that the landowners downstream are using for thier families. He has no legal right to be stealing the fresh potable water to feed horses and irrigating a polo field at all. Here in La Cienega, this precious potable water should not be used for commerical purposes, espeically with the shortage of water availability in this area and upper La Cieneguilla. No wonder we have local landowners in this area protesting the water rights transfer with the State Enginner's Office.

If the county owns 75 percent of this Hagerman Well, then, they should be metering the well and see how much fresh potable water that Kokesh is actually using daily for commerical purposes and it will shock the community on what he is doing.

It looks like the Resident's of La Cienega will have to make some noise with the county officials on this one. Hey Commissioner Anaya, what do you think about that?
Juan Tanamera

Sheffield, AL

#2 Jul 4, 2009
What a scumbag. He claims to be "flush with cash" but seems to have a problem when it comes to paying for things he purchases.

House payments? Nah, those are for suckers. Expensive motorhome? Just wanted to use it for a couple years and return it. Wife's credit card charges? Must've been someone else...

Shameful.
Eideard

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Jul 4, 2009
The lame Santa Fe City Council had an opportunity to buy the Hagerman Well from PNM and turned it down. Only then did the County and Kokesh purchase the well. For 4 times the price offered to the city by PNM.

If La Cienega wants to pay the county to run a pipeline over the hill - that's their right.

If anyone there knew anything about geology they'd stop wasting time whining about the Hagerman water rights. It doesn't affect the aquifers dribbling into La Cienega at all.

So far, folks who do live in the neighborhood of the Hagerman Well haven't been negatively affected by anything the County or Kokesh have done. Just ask any of the well drilling companies who've worked in La Cieneguilla in the last 10 years or so.

The only concern over here would be - should be - the greedy clowns in the city trying to shortcut the natural flow of the Ancha aquifer to this region. With the wells drilled - and planned to drill - just upstream from the Hagerman.
Eideard

Santa Fe, NM

#4 Jul 4, 2009
Oh, and Jim Alley sold his land in La Cieneguilla to the County and the Open Spaces project years ago.
Gato

Florence, AL

#5 Jul 4, 2009
See what's happening here? Run two stories on the same page, one describing the son's run for a political office and the other smearing his family. This is political partisanship and propaganda, not journalism. An example of the way media is used to skew and influence public opinion. It's the way all news is currently presented and encompasses both the right and the left. You don't get news in any unbiased manner at this point; it's always formulated to achieve a political objective. The end result is a misinformed and polarized public without full knowledge of any significant issue. Propaganda, from all political spectrums, is the enemy of truth. And if, "the truth will set you free", you can see where this is all leading. Be aware, think, don't be victimized.
Woodmeister

Bridgeport, CT

#6 Jul 4, 2009
"In March, GEMB Lending filed a complaint seeking to take possession of Kokesh's 1996 custom motor home, valued at $180,000, to satisfy a debt for $227,418. Kokesh said he stopped payments on the motor home because he is not satisfied with its quality and wants to return it."

Yeah, and 13 years ago I bought stock in Thornburg. Can I please return it now for what I paid for it? The guy's a bullspit artist.
LOL

Huntsville, AL

#7 Jul 4, 2009
Yeah yeah, sure sure, blah blah. What a loser.
Mora Heir

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Jul 4, 2009
Eideard wrote:
The lame Santa Fe City Council had an opportunity to buy the Hagerman Well from PNM and turned it down. Only then did the County and Kokesh purchase the well. For 4 times the price offered to the city by PNM. If La Cienega wants to pay the county to run a pipeline over the hill - that's their right. If anyone there knew anything about geology they'd stop wasting time whining about the Hagerman water rights. It doesn't affect the aquifers dribbling into La Cienega at all.
So far, folks who do live in the neighborhood of the Hagerman Well haven't been negatively affected by anything the County or Kokesh have done. Just ask any of the well drilling companies who've worked in La Cieneguilla in the last 10 years or so.
The only concern over here would be - should be - the greedy clowns in the city trying to shortcut the natural flow of the Ancha aquifer to this region. With the wells drilled - and planned to drill - just upstream from the Hagerman.
Good pointsl however, Kokesh does not deserve a drop of water for his enterprise, period! And in terms of drillers and ground water studies that have been done for the area, they are inaccurate too! So, the city is trying to drill more wells upstream from the Hagerman Well? I believe it because look at the Aquifer and waterstream makeup of the La Cieneguilla Land Grant region. What you would find is an abundance of fresh potable water ready for sucking it dry from the ground. But who has the senior water-rights ownership to this gold mine upstream and if the city wants it that bad, who will defend the homeowners who have private wells downstream south of La Cieneguilla? And do really think the county or city will even trust any driller or water expert to tell me that any type of ground water pull-out from Hagerman Well in large masses will not adversely impact any other existing ground water table? And for Jim Alley, he's the primary reason why everything is all screwed up in terms of land-use issues for this area. It all started with a greedy man and transfer to another greedy one who does not give a chit about anyone but himself.
observer2

United States

#9 Jul 4, 2009
Another outstanding citizen in Santa Fe. It seems the only one really making out are the lawyers! And who are the lawyers? His choices might tell us alot about this man's personal integrity.
It seems the rich stay rich by not paying their bills.
drunkdrvrsbite

Las Vegas, NM

#10 Jul 4, 2009
weirdo, has any one said that.
this is

Jackson Heights, NY

#11 Jul 4, 2009
how you get flush with cash..
this guy is a serious j. o. o.
More to the story

Rapid City, SD

#12 Jul 4, 2009
The sale of Dakota Arms in South Dakota is where he supposedly became "flush with cash". What isn't told is how he screwed over all the employees. He didn't pay their health insurance or workmens comp insurance for several months before the sale.(remember part of the health insurance comes out of the employees pay!) He was responsible for the employees pay checks until the sale and refused to pay the last one. Remington covered it for them. I once heard someone say, "If you've had even one conversation with Charlie Kokesh, you've been lied to." He is a sneaky, slimy, lying cheat. He loves the attention this is giving him.
On a side note...I hope New Mexico isn't stupid enough to elect his son into office. The apple didn't fall far from the tree....
Truth

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Jul 4, 2009
Don't know much about Charles, but Adam is a stand-up guy. I don't always agree with Adam's politics, but he's got a lot of integrity.
the nose on your face

Rio Rancho, NM

#15 Jul 4, 2009
what's he "foundering"?:-)
Justin

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Jul 4, 2009
Adam Kokesh denounces the Iraq War (after he was actully there) for what it is- A COLLOSSAL SCAM-
... WMD'S???? WHO PUT SADDAM IN POWER? THE U.S! AND GUESS WhaT??? 1.3 MILLION Iraqis DEAD and Halliburton (Cheneys scumbag war profiteering company) making billions and all of a sudden Kokesh's family gets attacked in the Local Rag- New Mexican.. OBVIOUS SCUMMBAGGERY BY THE MAINSTREAM SCUMBAG MEDIA. The New Mexican is NOT for the people but for the sickening corporations that are ruining this country. Why doesnt the "New Mexican" do some REAL journalism??? Report on the 1.3 TRILLION dollars that the Pentagon couldnt account for on Sept 10, 2001. Google That. And what about the TRILLIONS That were given to offshore banks in the "BAILOUT" (THEFT OF WEALTH FROM THE PEOPLE TO THE ELITE BANKING FAMILIES) that US Taxpayers will have to pay back for generations? By the way, WITHOUT AUDIT. Americans need to wake up to whats going on IMMEDIATELY. HAPPY "INDEPENDENCE DAY" . This (and all other electronic transmissions monitored by the NSA). They hate us for our "FREEDOM"
Worldly Local

Santa Fe, NM

#17 Jul 4, 2009
I find it interesting that Charlie wants to take out corrupt "lawyers and Democrats". He could have said "corrupt lawyers and politicians." I guess if you are a corrupt Republican or right-winger it is OK. I hope at the debate someone asks the candidates the question whether they agree with Charlie's statement about "open season."
Garden Worker

Santa Fe, NM

#18 Jul 4, 2009
I've seen his posters up with the Coca Cola wave. Maybe Coca Cola should object to his use and assumption that things are better with coke. This man is dangerous to society. He is just like George W. Bush in many ways.
Ugh

United States

#19 Jul 4, 2009
More to the story wrote:
The sale of Dakota Arms in South Dakota is where he supposedly became "flush with cash". What isn't told is how he screwed over all the employees. He didn't pay their health insurance or workmens comp insurance for several months before the sale.(remember part of the health insurance comes out of the employees pay!) He was responsible for the employees pay checks until the sale and refused to pay the last one. Remington covered it for them. I once heard someone say, "If you've had even one conversation with Charlie Kokesh, you've been lied to." He is a sneaky, slimy, lying cheat. He loves the attention this is giving him.
On a side note...I hope New Mexico isn't stupid enough to elect his son into office. The apple didn't fall far from the tree....
He was also part owner of a business here in SF, something to do with bank machines or something like that. Anyway, the company went under and all the employees were on direct deposit with whatever payroll service they were using. A day or two after their last paychecks were deposited the deposits were mysteriously reversed. He is the slime of all slime. Never to be trusted and his wife is a complete wacko.
metz

Marlton, NJ

#20 Jul 5, 2009
Garden Worker wrote:
I've seen his posters up with the Coca Cola wave. Maybe Coca Cola should object to his use and assumption that things are better with coke. This man is dangerous to society. He is just like George W. Bush in many ways.
Uhm, it is his son running for office, not him. Do you want to be judged for all of your father's actions?
Luca

Nerviano, Italy

#21 Jul 6, 2009
Who the hell are you guys to be judging the Kokeshs? You dont even know any of them. You guys are a bunch of jerks who have nothing better to do because your life sucks,you have to judge and watch other peoples lives. Get a life!!!

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