Deputies stand behind Munks

Deputies stand behind Munks

There are 47 comments on the Redwood City Daily News story from Apr 28, 2007, titled Deputies stand behind Munks. In it, Redwood City Daily News reports that:

The San Mateo County Deputy Sheriff's Association has issued a statement supporting Sheriff Greg Munks and Undersheriff Carlos Bolanos, who were caught in an embarrassing episode that found them at a Las Vegas ...
The San Mateo County Deputy Sheriff's Association has issued a statement supporting Sheriff Greg Munks and Undersheriff Carlos Bolanos, who were caught in an embarrassing episode that found them at a Las Vegas brothel. <br/> <br/>"While the (association) certainly does not always agree with Sheriff Munks and Undersheriff Bolanos' decisions, we have found both to be proven and effective leaders," said the written statement from the union's executive board. <br/> <br/>The union, which represents more than 400 deputies, correctional officers and others, noted that the sheriff and undersheriff were traveling to Las Vegas on their own time and there is no proof so far they broke any laws. <br/> <br/>"We do not foresee these recent events affecting our ability to work effectively with Sheriff Munks and Undersheriff Bolanos. We remain confident in their abilities and leadership and we look forward to moving past this incident," the statement said. Union officials declined to elaborate Friday. <br/> <br/>The statement adds to a chorus of official voices in the county that has responded to the law enforcement officials' gaffe with praise for their integrity and abilities. Seven days after Munks and Bolanos were swept up in a police raid of illegal bordellos, there have been no calls by anyone in a position of power for an investigation into the facts surrounding the incident. <br/> <br/>Munks and Bolanos themselves have refused to answer questions about the circumstances of their visit to the brothel. Munks initially released a written statement apologizing and asserting that he mistakenly thought the brothel was "a legitimate business," but he will not say what type of business he thought it was. <br/> <br/>Instead, both the sheriff and undersheriff's offices have directed all questions to spokeswoman Lt. Lisa Williams, who has said she doesn't know details of the brothel incident. <br/> <br/>Board of Supervisors President Rose Jacobs-Gibson and Supervisor Jerry Hill are among those who have stood up for Munks and Bolanos, saying they don't see a need for further investigation of the Las Vegas issue. <br/> <br/>Two other supervisors - Rich Gordon and Mark Church - have said they're awaiting more information, and County Manager John Maltbie has asked the Controller's Office to see whether county funds helped pay for the trip to Las Vegas. <br/> <br/>But many more leaders - from state Sen. Leland Yee (D-San Francisco/San Mateo) to California State Sheriffs' Association Executive Director Steve Szalay - have responded to the controversy with two words: "No comment." <br/> <br/>Las Vegas police say they have no plans to investigate whether Munks and Bolanos broke any laws at the brothel because their raid targeted only employees, not customers. They are looking into whether the brothels were part of an organized crime ring that smuggled women into the country from Asia and forced them to work as sex slaves. <br/> <br/>Officer Bill Cassell said his department will not discuss the results of its questioning of Munks and Bolanos other than to say they behaved cooperatively and professionally. "We are not going to extend the curiosity in this in any manner." <br/> <br/> <br/>E-mail Will Oremus at [email protected]
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Steve White

AOL

#1 Apr 28, 2007
The District Attorney in San Mateo County, James Fox, seems to have a policy of backing the police, even when they are wrong.

For example, if a police officer makes a bad arrest, and the charges are thrown out, but the person wants to prove he was innocent,(not the same as havhing charges dismisssed) For always fights against it, even if the facts are on the innocent person's side.

I personally had experience with this. The judge in my case found against me, even thought the deputy did not show up for court, knowing he would either have to contradict his report, or perjure himself, and he had reason to fear I could prove any perjury.

But the Assistant Presiding Judge as the time, forget his name, something liek Fiora, ruled against the only testimony he had.

So, with this culture where the authorities always back the cops,(confirmed by my lawyer, who told me this is well known in San Mateo and was amazed I got them to pay a settlement) is it surprising now that they get kind of out of hand, and expect to get away with this?

Something seems to be wrong when not one person in power wants a proper look at this.
Michael Stogner

Palo Alto, CA

#2 Apr 28, 2007
Notice it is not the Deputies who stand behind Munks and Bolanos.

It is the UNION for the Deputies.....

Big Difference.
George Symington

San Miguel De Allende, Mexico

#3 Apr 29, 2007
That's like Chaney suppporing Bush. Wrong is still wrong.
RW Kenny

Oak Brook, IL

#4 May 1, 2007
George Symington wrote:
That's like Chaney suppporing Bush. Wrong is still wrong.
No it's not like Chenney supporting Bush but nice try moron.
Whatnot

United States

#5 May 4, 2007
I see no problem. I find it funny though when a car salesman begins to beleive he is the moral compass of the community. No wonder San Carlos is soo screwed up.
gah

Long Beach, CA

#6 May 7, 2007
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I see no problem. I find it funny though when a car salesman begins to beleive he is the moral compass of the community. No wonder San Carlos is soo screwed up.

What does San Carlos have to do with anything you idiot. Sun must be having effects on your tiny brain you Zonie...
Gary

East Pittsburgh, PA

#7 May 8, 2007
I'm retired from cop and sat on the union board for many years.

It was BRILLIANT for the union to back him. He isn't going anywhere and they are going to have to deal with these guys for the next few years.

It's called politics
SMCresident

San Jose, CA

#8 May 8, 2007
I think both should resign from their positions they are a disgrace to the county. They have tainted the SMCSO's office name. Regardless if they knew the brothel was illegal or not, I'm sure there were signs along the way indicating other wise. Not to mention tax payers dollars paid for the trip. These 2 men have been in law enforcement for awhile and I'm sure regardless of what they say they knew what they were getting themselves into. Not to mention there are TONS of reputible massage parlors in Las Vegas. Why did they have to choose this one. It's unfortunate they are elected officials and unfortunate that their 2 names were the only ones on the ballot. I really see Munks as a useless Sheriff right now riding the wave of what the previous Sheriffs built. Where's Don Horsley when we need him!
Michael Stogner

United States

#9 May 17, 2007
Steve White

AOL

#10 May 18, 2007
Thanks for that link. This seems to remove any doubt that the limo driver knew what kind of place he was going to, and reduces the already tiny doubt that the officers knew.

I personally don't hate them for going to a brothel. I disapprove of it, but depends on how much coercion the women are under.

But there have to be some standards, or else officials just feel they can do anything they want, and that is no good.

RESIGNATION IS THE WAY TO GO.
Betrayed

Daly City, CA

#11 May 18, 2007
I just responded to a blog at the Half Moon Bay Review regarding this matter. I'm calling myself Betrayed because I feel betrayed by the local media and Michael Stogner (apparently the Daily's acknowledged civic crusader). I am extremely dismayed by the Daily's lack of journalistic integrity when they ran a story which headlined "Recall Effort Begins" and they used Michael Stogner as the basis for this story. It took me five minutes of internet searching to determine what the Daily already knew. This man is an unstable person with a well-documented history of irrational and unfounded attacks on anyone in the criminal justice system. He has attacked our District Attorney, Judges, Police Officers and Detectives. This may be somewhat understood by some people but what shocked me and led to this feeling of betrayel is his irrational defense of Eddie Rapoza, a man who murdered his wife and two small children by driving them off a cliff in my coastal community(see link below). This murderer was convicted for these henious crimes and sentenced to life in prison.
For me, this was the last straw.. this proves to me that this whole issue for him is about his deep seeded hatred of people in authority and not some minor incident involving the sheriff.
It also took me five minutes of checking to determine that Monks and Bolanos have a combined 60 years of experience protecting us and our communities and protecting Michael Stogners' right to lie on the internet. Michael Stogner needs to get treatment and the rest of us need to get back to work and let the sheriff get back to protecting us and our community.

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/forum/showthrea...
GAH

Long Beach, CA

#12 May 18, 2007
Stogners a stooge. Get a life, you sure dont have one for all the effort you put into this. Who cares.
Michael Stogner

Palo Alto, CA

#13 May 19, 2007
The Insider wants to know the answers.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/insider/2007/05/15/sto...
Steve White boatbrain

AOL

#14 Jun 13, 2007
I don't know Michael Stogner, so I don't know how to assess him, but many of the comments "Betrayed" who will not identify himself, unlike Stogner and myself, even though he is not saying anything likley to anger anyone in power, unlike Stogner and myself,(I kind of wonder if "Betrayed" has another way to identify himself besides a name, like say a San Mateo County Deputy's badge number? Just wondering) could be applied to me.


So let's take a look at this subject, people who supposedly have a "deep seeded hatred for people with authority"

First off, that's a personal attack, which has nothing to do with the issue of whehter or not Munks should be Sheriff, does it? It looks like a deliberate attempt to bad mouth Stogner without addressing the real issue?

Stogner does not have a position of trust in law enforcement, does he? Are we debating whether or not to recall Stogner? If we are, then his past actions and attitudes are relevant, if not, it's just "Betrayed" trying to trash somebody.
Steve White boatbrain

AOL

#15 Jun 13, 2007
I followed the link given by "Betrayed" above, and it just went to more bulletin boards. Nothing conclusive.

The murder case of Eddie Rapoza I have not tried to assess, but let me tell you a few things about San Mateo County.

First, a deputy there filed a false report, a report falsely accusing me of a crime, when he arrested me at the Scott Peterson trial.

I was holding up a sign advertising my web page, and the web page is critical of law enforcement,(in another local county, Alameda) and Deputy Mark Dowdy, who was in charge of courthouse security at the time, arrested me at the request of Peter Shaplen, the guy who was the head of media for the event.

My arrest was completley illegal, becuase there was no rule against signs at the trial, only signs referring to Peterson. But my sign had nothing to do with that.

So, knowing he had no basis for arresting me, Dowdy lied, claiming I was trying to start a fight with the TV cameramen who were present. To do that, he had to flat out lie about what I said and did.

After my charges were dropped, because the TV guys who are about a thousand times smarter than Dowdy, would not back him up,(they did not want to perjure themselves, knowing there were dozens of cameras which could show the truth) I sued San Mateo County.

After using every excuse possible to keep Dowdy from giving a video deposition,(for example, that he might go undercover as a narcotics officer some time in the future, and if I showed the video on the WEB, that would put his life in danger. This was from a guy who repeatedly stuck his face in front of the camera at the Peterson trial, which was one of the biggest media events in all human history, in terms of number of people seeing video from it particularly) the County finally paid me $5,000 for false arrest.

The other deputies, some of them anyway, knew Dowdy had lied in his arrest report, and so they did their best to keep me from getting a copy of the report, even though the state law says I was entitled to it. Finally, some naive person in the office, who did not know any better, got me a copy of the report. I hope they did not get in any trouble for it.

So, that's my experience of the San Mateo County Sheriff's Department.

1. Deputy arrests me illegally.
2. Deputy lies in report to support illegal arrest.
3. Fellow deputies lie to me to prevent me getting copy of police report. Violation of state law.
4. Deputy uses phony excuses to avoid giving deposition.
5. County pays me $5,000 of your tax dollars to settle lawsuit.

Wake up, San Mateo County.

But I guess if having your Sheriff arrested in a brothel founded on white slavery is not enough to wake some people up, nothing will.
Jack Kirkpatrick

AOL

#16 Jun 13, 2007
What is the status of the unethical Katz' family donation to Sheriff Munks and Undersheriff Balonos before the County Counsel and Board of Supervisors?

If the LV Metro police and FBI... raid was properly conducted, the "john's" should have been arrested then we could put Sheriff Munks and Balanos to RIP in retirement. I have no doubt that they were "customers."

Proving it beyond a reasonable doubt is another matter, but if the Sheriff's statement doesn't have the ring of truth, it probably isn't in view that they lied in the use of public funds (hence, the Katz' family donation) for the Baker to Vegas Relay!
Michael Stogner

Palo Alto, CA

#17 Jun 13, 2007
Jack Kirkpatrick wrote:
What is the status of the unethical Katz' family donation to Sheriff Munks and Undersheriff Balonos before the County Counsel and Board of Supervisors?
If the LV Metro police and FBI... raid was properly conducted, the "john's" should have been arrested then we could put Sheriff Munks and Balanos to RIP in retirement. I have no doubt that they were "customers."
Proving it beyond a reasonable doubt is another matter, but if the Sheriff's statement doesn't have the ring of truth, it probably isn't in view that they lied in the use of public funds (hence, the Katz' family donation) for the Baker to Vegas Relay!
Jack,

The Katz family turns out to be one gentleman, who showed up and made a partial payment ...a check for $1,000....nothing more of that subject has been reported.
Michael Stogner

Palo Alto, CA

#18 Jun 13, 2007
Betrayed wrote:
I just responded to a blog at the Half Moon Bay Review regarding this matter. I'm calling myself Betrayed because I feel betrayed by the local media and Michael Stogner (apparently the Daily's acknowledged civic crusader). I am extremely dismayed by the Daily's lack of journalistic integrity when they ran a story which headlined "Recall Effort Begins" and they used Michael Stogner as the basis for this story. It took me five minutes of internet searching to determine what the Daily already knew. This man is an unstable person with a well-documented history of irrational and unfounded attacks on anyone in the criminal justice system. He has attacked our District Attorney, Judges, Police Officers and Detectives. This may be somewhat understood by some people but what shocked me and led to this feeling of betrayel is his irrational defense of Eddie Rapoza, a man who murdered his wife and two small children by driving them off a cliff in my coastal community(see link below). This murderer was convicted for these henious crimes and sentenced to life in prison.
For me, this was the last straw.. this proves to me that this whole issue for him is about his deep seeded hatred of people in authority and not some minor incident involving the sheriff.
It also took me five minutes of checking to determine that Monks and Bolanos have a combined 60 years of experience protecting us and our communities and protecting Michael Stogners' right to lie on the internet. Michael Stogner needs to get treatment and the rest of us need to get back to work and let the sheriff get back to protecting us and our community.
http://www.smdailyjournal.com/forum/showthrea...
Dear Betrayed,

You are welcome to get back to work anytime, you might find it more satisfying then misrepresenting things I've written about... I have never defended Eddie Rapoza III...

What I have always said and continue to say is I do not want my San Mateo County Employees committing crimes to get someone convicted.

10/09/02 8:30 PM Fabricating Evidence...Sobe Bottle

Now with that said if your are disturbed by my writting you might be one of the few San Mateo County Employees I am talking about.

Also you mention Munks and Bolanos 60 combined experience.....

From 9:30 PM Arpil 21, 2007 They got caught, and we have all seen how they have chosen to handle it.
Steve White boatbrain

AOL

#19 Jun 15, 2007
I put out some leaflets asking Munks to either explain or resign at the courthouse yesterday, Thursday June 14. It took around an hour to give out around 3 dozen leaflets.

Some deputies came out and looked at me, but none said anything.

My leaflets pointed out what I posted above, when I was illegally arrested, and subsequently tried to get a finding of "factual innocence" from a San Mateo County court, the DA opposed it, and we were told the DA ALWAYS, I emphasize, ALWAYS, opposes these findings.

It seems to me that is very unfair. In my case, the County had already paid me a settlement,$5,000 so Fox did not have to oppose my innocence finding to keep the County from losing a civil lawsuit,(which, in any case is not considered a proper motivation that the Courts can look at, the only thing they are supposed to consider is your actual innocence or guilt)

Mr. Stogner pointed out that the County does not have a Public Defender, and that this leads to problems. That is what my lawyer said as well. I want to be careful about paraphrasing him, but essentially, the point was, without an organized PD office, the prosecution, including the police but the DA also, gets away with a lot of stuff. I did not know San Mateo County was the only county with no Public Defender, but it certainly is rare that such a large county does not have one.

Another thing about your DA down there. He is on a state commission for fair administration of justice. I wrote to the head of the commission, John Van de Kamp, and pointed out that a person who alwayhs opposes factual innocence findings, no matter how much evidence there is of innocence, is not very fair, and does not deserve to be on a commission which is devoted to ensuring fairness.

At my hearing, Dowdy did not show up at all, they kept calling him and asking him when he would get to the hearing, the judge was kept waiting for half an hour, and finally I was the only one to testify, but even still, Judge Foiles would not give me the finding.

I think Mr. Stogner, or maybe someone else, had something negative to say about Judge Foiles, that he showed bias towards the prosecution by trying to keep them from bringing out facts which might hurt their side. I very much believe it, since Foiles was so obviously biased towards me.

When Judge Forcum had my case, before it went to Foiles, he basically chewed the DDA out for opposing our motion for factual innocence without ANY reason. He told them, "You have to give me facts".

But Foiles, with no evidence at all to support the DA's side, turned us down flat.

Oh, by the way, Mark Dowdy, who just could not get to the hearing, though they called him again and again,(and of course, this hearing was scheduled weeks in advance).

When we walked out of the courtroom, guess who was coming up while we were going down? It was very obvious what was going on.
Steve White boatbrain

AOL

#20 Jun 15, 2007
One more quick comment. I don't mean to carry on and on about my own bad experience. It's not precisely on topic. The whole point of it is, your entire system down there seems to fail to do enough to discourage misconduct, and what Stogner says about the lack of a Public Defender is what the lawyers say as well.

And this lack of accontability seems to be proved out by the response of the local government to the Munks/Bolanos incident.Not one harsh word for him, not one call for a real explanation.

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