Vandals damage SF's pink triangle

Authorities are trying to determine who set fire to a large, fabric pink triangle constructed each year as part of San Francisco's gay pride celebration.

[Didi]

I suppose it was someone who is sick and tired of Gay being shoved in their face.

[Jim]

Didi wrote:

I suppose it was someone who is sick and tired of Gay being shoved in their face.

Hey, I'll remember that for the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. I'm tired of that being shoved down my throat!

[Rusty Shackelford]

We're about a week away from Brent Adams annual 4th of July US Flag burning as a demonstration of freedom of speech. Though this gay flag burning is obviously vandalism as it was not the property of the person who burned it...it will still be interesting to listen to the contrasting opinions between the rights to voice a constitutionally protected opinion and committing a hate crime based on desecrating the different flags.

[BGHOZ]

What ever happened to the slogan "Keep Santa Cruz weird?" geez peeple.....that was mean spirited, I thought all you folks down there were open minded.

[Correction]

BGHOZ wrote:

What ever happened to the slogan "Keep Santa Cruz weird?" geez peeple.....that was mean spirited, I thought all you folks down there were open minded.

What are you talking about? The flag was burned (the only mean-spirited crime) in San Francisco. The people in Santa Cruz are just exercising their right to free speech...is there a problem with that?

Celebrate some of that legendary diversity we're always hearing about...and go after the mean spirited San Franciscans who burned your precious flag.

[Rick in Kansas]

Rusty Shackelford wrote:

We're about a week away from Brent Adams annual 4th of July US Flag burning as a demonstration of freedom of speech. Though this gay flag burning is obviously vandalism as it was not the property of the person who burned it...it will still be interesting to listen to the contrasting opinions between the rights to voice a constitutionally protected opinion and committing a hate crime based on desecrating the different flags.

I'll bite. While as a gay man, I would be personally offended by the free speech being exercised by someone burning their own giant pink triangle installation, or for practicality's sake, a rainbow flag, it is their right to offend me with their symbolic speech. Whether we like it or not, a right to not be offended by others, unless it truly disturbs the peace, simply does not exist, nor should it. The true test of our bid for equality is to be able to stand up for the rights of those who we disagree with, no matter how much we disagree or are offended by them...

[Rusty Shackelford]

Rick in Kansas wrote:

<quoted text>I'll bite. While as a gay man, I would be personally offended by the free speech being exercised by someone burning their own giant pink triangle installation, or for practicality's sake, a rainbow flag, it is their right to offend me with their symbolic speech. Whether we like it or not, a right to not be offended by others, unless it truly disturbs the peace, simply does not exist, nor should it. The true test of our bid for equality is to be able to stand up for the rights of those who we disagree with, no matter how much we disagree or are offended by them...

Excellent post...I totally agree. No further comment required.

From a non-Christian conservative, here's to an equally safe and fun 4th of July and Gay pride week...*clink*

[BGHOZ]

Correction wrote:

<quoted text>
What are you talking about? The flag was burned (the only mean-spirited crime) in San Francisco. The people in Santa Cruz are just exercising their right to free speech...is there a problem with that?
Celebrate some of that legendary diversity we're always hearing about...and go after the mean spirited San Franciscans who burned your precious flag.

First of all I'm not a Friscanian,secondly I was using sarcasim as in alot of my posts, thirdly you can take back that 'mean spirited'remark you posted,I like to exercise my freedom of speech too. Flag what flag?

[Correction]

BGHOZ wrote:

<quoted text>First of all I'm not a Friscanian,

Well that's painfully obvious now. No one but people from out of state calls San Fancisco "Frisco"...and the residents are certainly not called "Friscanians" ...or is that more of your notorious sarcasm?

BGHOZ wrote:

<quoted text>...secondly I was using sarcasim as in alot of my posts,

Gosh, I guess I slacked on following you around reading everything your write. Will your ego ever forgive me?

BGHOZ wrote:

<quoted text>thirdly you can take back that 'mean spirited'remark you posted,I like to exercise my freedom of speech too. Flag what flag?

Then you'll respect my freedom of speech to call you an idiot.

[Lawfull American Citizen]

I'd put good money on a bet that a disgruntled tobacco smoker torched the homosexual sign. Every liberal Democrat honmosexual voted to increase the tax on smokers!

[Ocean View]

Lawfull American Citizen wrote:

I'd put good money on a bet that a disgruntled tobacco smoker torched the homosexual sign. Every liberal Democrat honmosexual voted to increase the tax on smokers!

Apparently the secret agenda has finally been exposed: Homosexuality is actually an anti-tobacco plot.

[BGHOZ]

Correction wrote:

<quoted text>
Well that's painfully obvious now. No one but people from out of state calls San Fancisco "Frisco"...and the residents are certainly not called "Friscanians" ...or is that more of your notorious sarcasm?Gosh, I guess I slacked on following you around reading everything your write. Will your ego ever forgive me?

Actually I'm from what you folks call the "plains"and I like it,and by the way I did not use fisco (as in sisco) But my northbay buddies I'm sure appreciate my muse.Notorious, not yet but working on it! Thanks!You go boy....

[Rick in Kansas]

Rasta wrote:

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Well said. However, we also need to make damn sure the right exists in the first place.
Simply claiming something as a "right" and screaming about it for decades doesn't legitimize it.

In the instance being discussed, engaging in a symbolic act, such as burning your own flag or your own giant pink triangle, as an exercise of free speech is well established, if not always guaranteed. If you want to discuss the existence or non-existence of any other rights, I'd be more than happy to...

[BGHOZ]

Correction wrote:

<quoted text>
Well that's painfully obvious now. No one but people from out of state calls San Fancisco "Frisco"...and the residents are certainly not called "Friscanians" ...or is that more of your notorious sarcasm? Gosh, I guess I slacked on following you around reading everything your write. Will your ego ever forgive me<quoted text>Guess what my friend, I am so not afraid to be called an idiot. Somewhere or other there is someone thinking the same about you too. That is the beauty of the "freedom of speech".And my question to you would be, if you are indifference in what I post why follow me around in the first place? Heh?
<quoted text>
Then you'll respect my freedom of speech to call you an idiot.

No problem,but as you can see I have not done likewise..Because? I am not like you. Period.

[myopinion2]

Can't everyone just get along,there is only one flag that should be flown over SF and that is our nations flag.Everybody's trying to shove something at someone well you gays can shove it!Why can't anyone else,twin peaks is private.I want the cross back up on Davidson that was there when I was a kid and we had easter service there.Nothing wrong with that just a little religion.Did'nt bother anyone for years then oh poor SF can't drop a wallet on polk st ya get to many whistles better kick it to Van Ness before retrieving it.SF was a fun city til people stsrted shoving stuff where it did'nt belong.Well you all can shove it!