Cop tases autistic teen after punch i...

Cop tases autistic teen after punch in face

There are 180 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Oct 18, 2008, titled Cop tases autistic teen after punch in face. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

A 6-foot-5, 250-pound middle-school student broke an Orlando police officer's hand Friday when the officer tried to get the boy to leave a school bathroom, investigators said.

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Matty Matt

Kissimmee, FL

#2 Oct 18, 2008
The kid has a mental handicap. I'm sure he will beat any charges you wish to throw at him OPD. Spend our tax money on a senseless lawsuit if you want Mrs. Demmings.
voice of reason

Dallas, TX

#3 Oct 18, 2008
16 years old and in middle school.
When will the madness stop?
Justice4All

Fort Pierce, FL

#4 Oct 18, 2008
Throw this kid in jail and let him sit and rot! We dont need kids like this in the world.. Regardless of problems

Parents need to teach right and wrong.. not just "Your autistic, its ok to takeover the world" JAIL HIM ON FELONY Assasult on cop, sue him and make him pay the cop's medical bills, etc.. File Charges ASAP
Anonymouse

San Antonio, TX

#5 Oct 18, 2008
The kid is autistic, I wonder if he has capability to know what he did was wrong. Most autistic children repetitively hit themselves or things and tend to have "violent" outbursts that are not really directed at anyone but people do get hurt. It is sad that a police officer tased him and it is sadder still that the state is going to prosecute him. What a waste of our taxpayer dollars. The kids family puts his doctor on the stand and the doctor testifies the kid doesn't have the mental capacity to be held accountable for his "crime". Case closed.
another view

United States

#6 Oct 18, 2008
I agree that 16 is too old for a middle schooler. This student, whether handicapped or not, should have been assigned to a high school.

We can all thank NCLB (No Child Left Behind)for having students who are 3-4 years older than their peers in every school in Orange County.

There are plenty of 13-year-olds sitting in class with your 5th-graders.

As for the fact that this student is autistic, 9/10 assaults at school are committed by students who have some kind of label.

Why the need to put "autistic" in the headline? It doesn't matter. Kids should submit to authorities or be placed in alternative schools. All of them.

“OMG, Calling you guys? a waste”

Since: Oct 08

Florida

#7 Oct 18, 2008
i might be wrong, but, a 250 lb 16 year old autistic boy probably shouldnt be mainstreamed in a middle school. at least not any more. i know i'm speculating but.....
Sarah

UK

#8 Oct 18, 2008
Jail him? You obviously know nothing about Autism. Alot of cases are very severe.

Where was his carer? Why were the police called and not his parents?

Disgusting.
notamom

El Paso, TX

#9 Oct 18, 2008
Wait a minute - 6'5", 250lb 16 year old in the same school as 4'8" 80 lb 12 yr olds? That is insane - if I was a parent at that school I would insist that the child be prosecuted and assigned to a high school.

"Autistic" has become the new crutch as the "spectrum" definitions have expanded over the last few years. I suspect that the label is now slapped on most if not all discipline cases. So we've gone from the Ritalin generation to the "autistic" generation, all for the convenience of parents who don't wish to enforce discipline?
Sarah

UK

#10 Oct 18, 2008
another view wrote:
I agree that 16 is too old for a middle schooler. This student, whether handicapped or not, should have been assigned to a high school.
We can all thank NCLB (No Child Left Behind)for having students who are 3-4 years older than their peers in every school in Orange County.
There are plenty of 13-year-olds sitting in class with your 5th-graders.
As for the fact that this student is autistic, 9/10 assaults at school are committed by students who have some kind of label.
Why the need to put "autistic" in the headline? It doesn't matter. Kids should submit to authorities or be placed in alternative schools. All of them.
What good would putting a child that needs extra care, into a school where their mental age is well below the majority?

"Some kind of label" ? You make me want to vomit.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#11 Oct 18, 2008
At 6'5" & 250 lbs. I believe I would have tased the kid also...if he broke the officer's hand,what would have happened if he had hit the officer in the face.?..this kid is of monster size and should not even be in MIDDLE SCHOOL...he should be home schooled...what would happen if he hit one of the kids in Middle School...? He is a danger to ANYONE in that school...take him home and school him...
Overit

Richardson, TX

#12 Oct 18, 2008
Matty Matt wrote:
The kid has a mental handicap. I'm sure he will beat any charges you wish to throw at him OPD. Spend our tax money on a senseless lawsuit if you want Mrs. Demmings.
Is this just because it was a police officer that was hurt?

What if it had been another child he hurt? Maybe your child.

What happens when he does hurt another child, will it be okay because he has a disability?

If he has violent tendencies, why is he main streamed?

I feel for children with disabilities, but on the other hand, if they are that violent they do not belong in a public school.

I would be willing to bet that if it were your child or anybody elses child being battered by him that the shoe would be on the other foot and you or whomever would want him prosecuted to the fullest extent.

When are people going to realize that my child has the right to an education and to feel safe at school just as much as a child with a disability does?
Regina Ray-Bushee

Lady Lake, FL

#13 Oct 18, 2008
This is an autistic child! First of all, Autistic children don't react in a "normal" way when confronted! Why call the police? He didn't do anything criminally wrong. He just wouldn't come out of the bathroom. Where were the school counselor's that needed to deal with the child in a soothing, non confronting way? What a shame. The teacher and the police did a great misjustice to this child.
Glasnos

Apopka, FL

#14 Oct 18, 2008
Anonymouse wrote:
The kid is autistic, I wonder if he has capability to know what he did was wrong. Most autistic children repetitively hit themselves or things and tend to have "violent" outbursts that are not really directed at anyone but people do get hurt. It is sad that a police officer tased him and it is sadder still that the state is going to prosecute him. What a waste of our taxpayer dollars. The kids family puts his doctor on the stand and the doctor testifies the kid doesn't have the mental capacity to be held accountable for his "crime". Case closed.
You are kidding ... right?

A 6' 5" 250 pound man is standing over you after just punching you in the face ... and you question if he should be tased?

Believe me ... if this hulk of a "kid" had just punched you and was standing over you, you would not have a problem with a cop tasing him to prevent further injury. It is somehow different when it is your butt on the line.

Someone mentioned that autisitic kids sometimes lash out violently ... then why on earth would you have a 250 pound 6' 5" autistic kid in middle school? Aren't you asking for trouble?
KatrinaB

AOL

#15 Oct 18, 2008
The child has a handicap and the officer should have known not to deal with this child like this.... I'm from the old schoolof police and what happened to talking your way of fight?? Now days the police just want to over react it seems in alot of cases where they can talk thier way out. Let the kid finish washig his hands what so pressing?? Then there wouldn't have been all this ...
SickofBleedingLi berals

Leesburg, FL

#16 Oct 18, 2008
notamom wrote:
"Autistic" has become the new crutch as the "spectrum" definitions have expanded over the last few years. I suspect that the label is now slapped on most if not all discipline cases. So we've gone from the Ritalin generation to the "autistic" generation, all for the convenience of parents who don't wish to enforce discipline?
I SO AGREE!!!!I also think it is a DX just thrown around and an excuse for parents with terrible kids!!! I do NOT believe that many kids have that, just as given medications for ADHD, another DX just thrown around! This kid needs to be IN JAIL! That OPD officer was DOING HIS JOB! This kid was bigger than that officer, that officer has a broken hand, and that OFFICER HAS A FAMILY TO GO HOME TO AT NIGHT!!!! GET OVER IT BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS!! YOU are the cause for such HORRIBLE behavior these days with all of your SOCIALIST excuses!!! Parents, PERSONAL RESPONSIBLITY!!! Kids, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!! You people are the same voting for Obama with your FREEBIE hand held out! UGH! THANKS OPD for getting another PUNK off the streets!! 16 in middle school, WHATEVER!! I am a mom of 2, one in middle school, age 12 73pds...I would be TICKED if a kids 16 was in her school! How scary!
KatrinaB

AOL

#17 Oct 18, 2008
" I'm from the old schoolof police and what happened to talking your way of fight?? "
Sorry should have read: I'm from the old school of police what happened to talking your way out of a fight?
CentralFlorida

Leesburg, FL

#19 Oct 18, 2008
KatrinaB wrote:
The child has a handicap and the officer should have known not to deal with this child like this.... I'm from the old schoolof police and what happened to talking your way of fight?? Now days the police just want to over react it seems in alot of cases where they can talk thier way out. Let the kid finish washig his hands what so pressing?? Then there wouldn't have been all this ...
Really?? He should have KNOWN he was autistic (probably an excuse for SSI)?? Let him finish washing his hands?? The police just look for stuff?? LOL!!Stupid! How about this if you know everything, you do it! Talk his way out of a fight?? ROFL!! That is funny. The school shouldn't have called the police then if it was THAT easy. Another armchair commando sounding stupid. You obviously have no clue. If he washed his hands, nothing would have happened, ROFLLMAO!!! IDIOTS! And you wonder why Obama is ahead in the polls! This country is full of stupid people. I have an idea, since you are so smart and have the liberal ideas of be peaceful against people like this, and all will be peaceful and blowing bubbles on a spring day, you do it. I will just sit back and laugh, because you will either be killed, beat up, or running with your tail tucked. LOL!!!!
Reminder

Lake Mary, FL

#20 Oct 18, 2008
Under state guidelines these children can remain in public school until age 21. Currently, the guidelines are being challenged by a Lakeland couple whose also large and sometimes violent son was not admitted this year at age 22.
Educator

Orlando, FL

#21 Oct 18, 2008
I am furious to see comments about putting this young man in jail. Just to educate you ignorant people, students with special needs can be in school to the age of 21, so him being in middle school is not out of the ordinary. Second, he is Austic! Maybe everyone needs to read up on what this means. Most likely he was not aware of what he was doing! Likely his IQ is way below 70, meaning he does not comprehend his actions as we do.

Now if you want to get mad, get mad at the teacher who called a cop on this student, knowing that he has special needs! This child was not being deliberately aggressive toward the cop, and everyone knows it. Take it to court, but charges will never go through! This behavior was simply a manistfestation of his disability!
Also get mad at the school, because if he needs more supervision then they should provide it, its not his fault that the school was neglectful.
Over it

Richardson, TX

#22 Oct 18, 2008
Regina Ray-Bushee wrote:
This is an autistic child! First of all, Autistic children don't react in a "normal" way when confronted! Why call the police? He didn't do anything criminally wrong. He just wouldn't come out of the bathroom. Where were the school counselor's that needed to deal with the child in a soothing, non confronting way? What a shame. The teacher and the police did a great misjustice to this child.
I will agree that while autistic chidren do not react in a "normal" way to confrontation, it is not the school, the counselor or the police that did him an injustice and needs to shoulder the blame, it is his parents that should hold the blame.

Afterall, anybody that knows anything about autism should know that if a child of his age doesn't know better to do what he did that he needs to be home schooled at the least. Putting him in a regular school is not going to change the fact that he is autistic and it will certainly not change his ability to reason with confrontation in a normal manner.

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