DeGeneres, de Rossi plan to marry, AP is told

[Tony C]

David Jeffrey Spetch wrote:

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I'll say one other thing, if it were created for property rights and not in honour of heterosexual relationships, then how so do you expalin that when it was created and for hundreds of years since, only heterosexuals have been married lmfao
Like I said, thanks for the laugh, always a pleasure to watch the greedy and the selfish squirm with ignorance :
David jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!

That's easy, fool.

Gay people are a super-minority of the population. We were punished for simply identifying ourselves for years. It took a movement which really ignited almost 40 years ago for us to get together and start educating people and being brave to demand equal rights and equal opportunity.

Just because you got away with screwing us over for years, doesn't mean you should have. It means the system has been and is corrupt.

And your stupid argument can be applied to any other injustice to show how stupid it is. "If women were meant to vote, then why didn't they have the right to vote from day one?"

See how stupid you are? Keep laughing.

[Tony C]

Shawn M Lang wrote:

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This is such a lame "argument". Why wouldn't you say the same thing about non-gay couples who marry? We're a smaller proportion in the population. Even if all the gay folks where you work (assuming that you do, in fact, work) got married it would barely cause a ripple. But if all the non-gay folks got married, well then, that would be a significant leap.

I agree, this is SUCH a lame argument.

Most gay couples both work, and therefore already have health insurance as individuals.

The only big whopping savings we are going to get is the savings that comes from purchasing a family policy vs. an individual policy. We would have the same choice any straight couple has - the choice between one spouse's insurance plan from work vs. the other spouse's insurance plan from work.

How much of a savings is that? Very little, if any. In fact, in the last traditional job I had, my policy premium would have precisely doubled if I wanted to add my spouse. There was no point, because he had his own insurance.

And let's be clear, the uninsured will be covered one way or another. If Americans are going to be selfish greedy pigs over gay spouse's health insurance, then the uninsured will get their coverage through emergency rooms, county aid, other government programs, etc.(And they'll qualify for those programs because they are not "legally" married, so if they are out of work due to injury, the spouse's income can't be considered.) So you pay either way.

Beyond that, it's the right thing to do to offer gay spouses the option to PURCHASE health care.

[Tony C]

David Jeffrey Spetch wrote:

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Marriage was created for and in honor of Heterosexual relationships = Fact!
It wasn't created for some Herder and his goat. It wasn't created for some Farmer and his pig. It wasn't created for some Adult and some Child. It wasn't created for some brother and some sister, and it certainly wasn't created for gays.
It was created for and in honor of heterosexual relationships because thanks to heterosexuals we even exist!
Notice that when marriage was created, and for hundreds of years since only heterosexuals got married.
It honors the only very normal sexual preference/orientation which is that of the heterosexual orientation and proof of this again that thanks to heterosexuals we even exist which is what marriage was created for and in honor of.
What I love is that this is uncontested fact just recently revealed for your awareness.
Marriage wasn't created for honoring a natural sexually oriented defect such as beastiality, pedophilia, incest or homosexual.
It again was made for and in honor of heterosexual relationships because again, thanks to heterosexuals we even exist!
If it were up to beastiality to sustain the population, we would have died off thousands of years ago. If it were up to incest, who knows how deformed life would have become or how long it would have lasted. if it were up to pedophilia to sustain the population as children come into fertility I suppose life might have continued if children survived such abuse! If it were up to gays to sustain the population, we would have died off thousands of years ago.
The only sexual preference that is even worth honoring is the heterosexual relationship because thanks to heterosexuals we even exist which is exactly what marriage was created for and in honor of!
It wasn't created in honor of decay no matter what any gay has to say and that's a fact!
Heterosexuals who get married and do not have children does not disprespect that marriage was created for and in honor of heterosexual relationships.
Gays obviously don't care that they are disprespecting what was created for and in honor of the one naturally normal sexual orientaion that is responsible for our very existence.
I care, and I am here to put my foot down so marriage is restored/kept to honor the one union that is responsible for our very existence!
David Jeffrey Spetch
PS. Be good, be strong!

I realize you're not smart enough to type something original, but what you are doing is spamming and is against the rules.

Please grow up and stop it.

[Tony C]

ADAM wrote:

You know that no other country would tolerate this open misconduct against mankind?

LOL!! Talk about mentally challenged.

It's called "Google." Use it.

[Paris Hilton]

That's Hot !

[TNT]

Teresa wrote:

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What is your problem with gay marriage? If two law abiding, tax paying citizens, gay or straight, want to get married why should they be denied that right?

I think you really know the answer or you wouldn't have asked the question.

[TNT]

Tony C wrote:

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LOL!! Talk about mentally challenged.
It's called "Google." Use it.

You'll both be wearing diapers by the age of 60. That's proof enough that it's wrong.

[Melanie]

David Jeffrey Spetch wrote:

Notice that nothing of what Tony C made mention of has to do with the fact that marriage was created for and in honour of heterosexual relationships. Instead Tony squirms to desperatly attempt to make anything else the issue.
I love watching the the selfish and the greedy squirm with ignorance.
Here, You're going to love this :)... lol lol
There is no such thing as Homophobia!(short but sweet)
If everyone were gay we would have died off thousands of years ago! Heterosexuals feeling uncomfortable with homosexual is natural and essential to our survival or again we would have died off thousands of years ago.
Being naturally uncomfortable about something is not a phobia, it is naturally feeling uncomfortable. Sure there are many various levels of un comfort when it comes down to each individual heterosexual, but for every single heterosexual we are all uncomfortable with homosexuality at some level which is what makes each and every heterosexual a heterosexual otherwise if heterosexuals were completely comfortable with homosexuality, they would not be heterosexuals, they would be homosexuals!
Same applies to the other two sexual preferences/orientation incest and pedophilia.
There is no such thing as a homophobe and anyone that encourages such bias is obviously so selfish to desperately scramble to make what is into what they would rather it be to suit their own selfish means no matter how many lies they got to make up to do it. Only it appears these people are too stupid to realize all by themselves is that by doing such things as labelling heterosexuals as something that doesn't even exists, makes it allot harder for the gays to be an accepted part of society because of these selfish inconsiderate individuals who make such bias claims. I am sincerely offended a out right freaking outraged by such nonsense having gone on far too long when it shouldn't have even begun in the first place!
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps., Be good, be strong!
...and
sexual preference isn't even an equal or human rights issue
Proof of that is incest and pedophilia.
Oh and jus because some may claim gay is among consenting adults doesn't detract from the fact that pedophilia is a sexual preference/orientation.
Not only that but incest is among consening adults as well.
Let me guess, this is where the gays start discriminating other sexual preferences with any excuse they can delusionally fathom like a bunch of hippocrites.
Just keep in mind, I love to watch the selfish and the greedy squirm. My pleasure!
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!

Exactly!!!!!!!!!

[laura]

Kelly Dolan wrote:

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So, you'll adopt and subject innocent children to all the discrimination, hatred and abuse you know is out there?
What will you say when they ask you "who are the mean people, daddy?" Will you say "most of them"?
Tell you what, it sure won't matter to the children whos "FAULT" it is, will it? But, what the heck, they're just kids. They'll get over it, right? We hope...

I know 2 groups of children who had gay parents. One the mother was gay and the other the father. They TRIED to be straight for years, the mother has been with the same woman for about 20 years now - her 3 children were all teenagers by the time they got together. In the father's case - he and his wife separated when the kids were very young. He has been with the same man since not too long after that - about 17 years now. He and his partner raised the children since they were all in elementary school. The youngest just graduated HS. They are very happy, well adjusted kids because they were raised in a happy, well adjusted loving home. They went through school with no problems, had the same group of friends their whole lives - I don't think they were picked on any more than any other kids. They were in and out of my home, and my kids were in and out of their home. Perfectly normal kids.

[Bethlehem PA]

How can a country survive with these types of stories being reported?

It can't.

[NUNYA]

With all of the tragedies occuring in our world right now at the hands of MAN, why does anyone have time to challenge gays right to marriage? I think most of you homophobes out there are afraid that if it becomes too accepted in the mainstream, that you might turn gay...

Homosexuality has been going on for as long as man has walked on this planet. It occurs in the animal kingdom as well and NO ONE has the right to deny two consenting adults the right to make a vow to each other for life. Isn't that a good thing? All of you homophobes for the longest time liked to babble about gays being too promiscuous but now when we have gay people who want to marry, you don't like that either. TOo bad!

[NUNYA]

Kirk Here wrote:

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Tony you are talking nonsense. Of course you made a choice. Yiu may not remember making that choice probably because you were only a child. But a choice you did make just as every heterosexual made a choice.
Now the Supreme Court has already ruled (Roe v. Wade) that "Choice" as to what one does with their body (and your brain is part of your body) is a Constitutional Right.
Mariage and the definition of marriage however is not covered by the U.S. Constutution. To define marriage was left to be decided by each individual state that makes up this republic. Therefore the people of each state or their elected representatives are the only ones that can define what marriage is within their state and under curent law they have every right to do so. What they cannot do under federal law is make someone's choice of sexulaity illegal. They already tried that and it didn't work.
Therefore the only way to legalize gay/lesbian marriage as the law of this nation would be by a Constitutional Ammendment. Perhaps someday we will get to that point.
However I must point out to you that you are making much to much out of the fact that you are Gay. Nobody cares if you are Gay. What people do care about is that you are a law abiding, responsible person of good moral character who has every right under the Constitution to be Gay if you choose to be so. But it is time to stop with the continuous post after post after post. It is really pretty simple. You have to be a man before you can be Gay. i.e. A man that is gay. What confuses people is when you say you are Gay first and then a man. i.e. I am a Gay man. So grow up and be a man first who happens to have made the choice to be gay.

You're an idiot. How dare you tell any gay person that he/she chose to be that way. How the **** do you know that?? Do you know how many gay people fight homosexual feelings for years and years, living a lie just to appease the societal "norm"?

I didn't choose to be heterosexual--I was born heterosexual just like Tony C hasn't chosen to be gay. If you don't get that, then I'm sorry for you.

[Beavis]

Tony C wrote:

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Obviously not, or that would have happened by now.

Aids, the modern plague. Are you "sure" the other of the happy tandem isn't pulling a train somewhere?(What are those dark spots?)

[Beavis]

NUNYA wrote:

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You're an idiot. How dare you tell any gay person that he/she chose to be that way. How the **** do you know that?? Do you know how many gay people fight homosexual feelings for years and years, living a lie just to appease the societal "norm"?
I didn't choose to be heterosexual--I was born heterosexual just like Tony C hasn't chosen to be gay. If you don't get that, then I'm sorry for you.

Have you been fighting those feelings long?

And, you got that right, about the animal kingdom that is ... they're the dumb ones who can't figure it out, and nature culls the herd.

[NUNYA]

Beavis wrote:

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Have you been fighting those feelings long?
And, you got that right, about the animal kingdom that is ... they're the dumb ones who can't figure it out, and nature culls the herd.

Oh yeah, "nature" culls the gay animals. LOL! What a scared little homophobe you are. Now, put down your playgirl and accept your fate. You're a closet ****

[BOWZER]

I never saw a **** squirrel or dog before.Well some dogs will take any leg but they are just perverted.Queers are twisted perverts,if you have a gay urge you need to seek help and be medicated like all the other mentally disabled people out there.Try some lithium take a pill chill but do not cross mother nature.You may say they do not cause society any harm but still it is wrong.Go back in the closet there is no need to be proud that you are suffering from a mental illness. Go eat some ball park franks not each other.

[i am SPARKLING]

gladys wrote:

[ I think if people want to have a mate of the same sex it is no ones business as long as they are not harming anyone ]
Then why do they have to announce it on magazine covers and t.v. shows? They should keep it their own business.

Same reason straight couples put their wedding announcements in the newspaper ...

[Tony C]

David Jeffrey Spetch wrote:

Notice that nothing of what Tony C made mention of has to do with the fact that marriage was created for and in honour of heterosexual relationships. Instead Tony squirms to desperatly attempt to make anything else the issue.
I love watching the the selfish and the greedy squirm with ignorance.
Here, You're going to love this :)... lol lol
There is no such thing as Homophobia!(short but sweet)
If everyone were gay we would have died off thousands of years ago! Heterosexuals feeling uncomfortable with homosexual is natural and essential to our survival or again we would have died off thousands of years ago.
Being naturally uncomfortable about something is not a phobia, it is naturally feeling uncomfortable. Sure there are many various levels of un comfort when it comes down to each individual heterosexual, but for every single heterosexual we are all uncomfortable with homosexuality at some level which is what makes each and every heterosexual a heterosexual otherwise if heterosexuals were completely comfortable with homosexuality, they would not be heterosexuals, they would be homosexuals!
Same applies to the other two sexual preferences/orientation incest and pedophilia.
There is no such thing as a homophobe and anyone that encourages such bias is obviously so selfish to desperately scramble to make what is into what they would rather it be to suit their own selfish means no matter how many lies they got to make up to do it. Only it appears these people are too stupid to realize all by themselves is that by doing such things as labelling heterosexuals as something that doesn't even exists, makes it allot harder for the gays to be an accepted part of society because of these selfish inconsiderate individuals who make such bias claims. I am sincerely offended a out right freaking outraged by such nonsense having gone on far too long when it shouldn't have even begun in the first place!
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps., Be good, be strong!
...and
sexual preference isn't even an equal or human rights issue
Proof of that is incest and pedophilia.
Oh and jus because some may claim gay is among consenting adults doesn't detract from the fact that pedophilia is a sexual preference/orientation.
Not only that but incest is among consening adults as well.
Let me guess, this is where the gays start discriminating other sexual preferences with any excuse they can delusionally fathom like a bunch of hippocrites.
Just keep in mind, I love to watch the selfish and the greedy squirm. My pleasure!
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!

And you still fail to acknowledge the truth, that marriage was created around property rights.

Obviously you are either not interested in or incapable of serious discussion.

I'll save my energy for those who are **** off. You have nothing to say anyway.

[Tony C]

TNT wrote:

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You'll both be wearing diapers by the age of 60. That's proof enough that it's wrong.

Sources, please.

That's what I thought.

Next time try something more substantial than **** Next.

[NUNYA]

BOWZER wrote:

I never saw a **** squirrel or dog before.Well some dogs will take any leg but they are just perverted.Queers are twisted perverts,if you have a gay urge you need to seek help and be medicated like all the other mentally disabled people out there.Try some lithium take a pill chill but do not cross mother nature.You may say they do not cause society any harm but still it is wrong.Go back in the closet there is no need to be proud that you are suffering from a mental illness. Go eat some ball park franks not each other.

Another scared little homphobe...WHy don't you crawl back into a cave you troglodyte. I can bet you didn't graduate Jr high which your mindset and communication inabilities.