Students Receiving Free and Reduced L...

Students Receiving Free and Reduced Lunch in Albemarle on the Rise

There are 126 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Apr 30, 2013, titled Students Receiving Free and Reduced Lunch in Albemarle on the Rise. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

School leaders in Albemarle County are noticing a less than encouraging trend. The number of at-risk students receiving free and reduced lunch is on the rise, and that affects how the county allocates its staff.

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Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#104 May 3, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>However I do take offense to you saying that I lie to my customers just to get them to buy a house. If that were true I would not be able to keep my business going.
It's not that you lie, you're not privy to their information. Now the loan officer that you had on speed dial that looks at the past 3 to 5 years of W-2s, gets their credit report, looks at their savings, and their other debts... that's their job.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#105 May 3, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Making your own way MIGHT be liberalism. But relying only on yourself to get there is Conservatism.
For gosh sakes, go look up Liberalism. Go back to the roots of your very own ideas - even though you apparently don't know what they are.

And for gosh sakes, do some serious economic history, including the history of the corporate form of business organization. Leaving your head stuck in the sand and pretending that I'm B.S.'ing is ridiculous.

As simple as I can put it is this: "individual achievement" is a terrible theory of inequality. It works for the purposes of ideology. Its not irrelevant. And it is an important value. But as a "theory" of inequality it is for the ideologues and the intellectually lazy.

What I meant about your own self-centered & narrow view was not that you, personally, in your "values" are selfish or self-center. I meant that you have shaped your whole theory of inequality and social mobility - your whole understanding of economics according to your own specific life experiences. There's a lot more to go on - its called social science research. That's where people do actual systematic empirical study of real people and their lives.

You act like I don't understand where you're coming from. I grew up in a small town area in a small business family - one of those businesses, in fact, connected to the housing industry. My grandfather was a small town small business person. My father and several uncles were small town small business people. I know the world view inside and out. It is full of nice values and sentiments. It is about as useful for understanding the world as a Horatio Alger novel.

I'm not going to try to give a course in social inequality in an internet post. Suffice it to say that if you go pick apart the actual poor population - those that qualify for things like food stamps and school lunches - you're going to find huge proportions of people who work very hard and are attached to the very same individual achievement values as you are. If you move away form the school lunch to general social program stuff you will find that once you pull out the very old, the obviously disabled, the children, and those who do work there will be very few people left. Those few people will fit your overgeneralization from sterotype of the welfare queen. It obviously doesn't matter much what I say tho. I already spent the time to try to enlighten you some on global comparisons. You dismissed it as "
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#106 May 3, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>However I do take offense to you saying that I lie to my customers just to get them to buy a house. If that were true I would not be able to keep my business going.
The loan officer doesn't care, either. They get bonuses that are tied to closures, or look good. They know that they're just going to sell of the mortgage in a few months anyhow, and that their hands are free of it.
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At any rate, in my scenario, who is the fool? Me or the bum?
G Luv

Marietta, GA

#107 May 3, 2013
"They are also the ones that have their iphones and there nails done every week..ect..."

Try to sound intelligent, please.
G Luv

Marietta, GA

#108 May 3, 2013
"Do you have any idea how many jobs the housing industry supports? That deduction was first implemented to increase home ownership and it has worked. The amount of tax revenue raised since it's inception is far greater than what you call a loss. I bet you couldn't name all of the industries involved in building a house."

Wait. So now you're for government intervention in the capitalist system?
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#109 May 3, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Making your own way MIGHT be liberalism. But relying only on yourself to get there is Conservatism.
No, that's liberalism, too. Conservatism is resistance to change, or keeping in with the same tradional social institutions; often associated with right wing poltics. The liberal scottish philosophers really did develop this nation, both economic with Adam Smith, and governmentally with John Locke. Next time you go to Monticello, let us know who picture was hanging in Jefferson's bedroom.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#110 May 3, 2013
I don't trust a realtor any further than I could throw a financial advisor unless they were both fee based, but that's not really fair since the financial advisor could be of more value to me than just possessing a key to the lock box.
G Luv

Marietta, GA

#111 May 3, 2013
"his statement that you made really shows your ignorance. Real Estate Taxes paid by PEOPLE WHO OWN HOMES is what pays for public schools."

Ay yay, yay. To imply that rent payments are not what fund real estate taxes in rental properties is the height of ignorance...or duplicity.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#112 May 3, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
If you move away form the school lunch to general social program stuff you will find that once you pull out the very old, the obviously disabled, the children, and those who do work there will be very few people left. Those few people will fit your overgeneralization from sterotype of the welfare queen.\
Excellent statement.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#113 May 4, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Oh yeah, sure... once you got the commission; you don't care, I'm not eating the shiiit you're trying to feed me. If they got financing, it's not your problem. I bet you had an appraiser and loan officer on speed dial, probably one from WaMu
You are so clueless at least on this topic, that I am actually embarrassed for you. I don't know where you and Hmmmmm and Huck get your jaded information but you need to stop acting like you know me and that am somehow a heartless a..h.ole who only cares about a commission. I think you guys are disappointed with how your lives have turned out or struggling to get by. But I don't know you so I won't make assumptions as you seem to enjoy doing. I can accept when one of you makes a valid point and I'm also willing to concede on certain topics. Ohh f.,it doesn't make any difference what I say.

Tell you what, you guys keep looking for various occupations to hate and cast dispersions on and I will continue to look for the good in people and in my country.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#114 May 4, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>No, that's liberalism, too. Conservatism is resistance to change, or keeping in with the same tradional social institutions; often associated with right wing poltics. The liberal scottish philosophers really did develop this nation, both economic with Adam Smith, and governmentally with John Locke. Next time you go to Monticello, let us know who picture was hanging in Jefferson's bedroom.
By the way you never explained how someone who performs the same job as you makes "hundreds of thousands" dollars more than you in he private sector. It seems reasonable that you would switch to the private sector.

And then there was either Hmmmmm or Huck who said they have bought and sold 9 homes in their life without an agent.

I'd say those claims are questionable at best.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#115 May 4, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>By the way you never explained how someone who performs the same job as you makes "hundreds of thousands" dollars more than you in he private sector. It seems reasonable that you would switch to the private sector.
And then there was either Hmmmmm or Huck who said they have bought and sold 9 homes in their life without an agent.
I'd say those claims are questionable at best.
It was me and I wrote I have had purchased nine homes and the last three w/o a realtor. Sorry to have directed animosity towards you personally. I just don't see the need for a realtor other than to get into a home to see it. After purchasing a few homes I don't need someone to hold my hand, so I'd rather save the commission. Unless they are fee based, just like a financial advisor working on commission, the bottom line is they are more interested in the sale than the client's best interests. I realize the profession claims otherwise and some are better than others. I'm sure you are one of the better ones where client's interests take precedence over making the sale, but I've experienced otherwise.
Jose Santchez

Ruckersville, VA

#116 May 4, 2013
Rather feed the kid here in America even the illegal ones than waste more money fighting in the middle east. I thought Obama was going to end the war, he has had four years?

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#117 May 4, 2013
huck wrote:
<quoted text>
It was me and I wrote I have had purchased nine homes and the last three w/o a realtor. Sorry to have directed animosity towards you personally. I just don't see the need for a realtor other than to get into a home to see it. After purchasing a few homes I don't need someone to hold my hand, so I'd rather save the commission. Unless they are fee based, just like a financial advisor working on commission, the bottom line is they are more interested in the sale than the client's best interests. I realize the profession claims otherwise and some are better than others. I'm sure you are one of the better ones where client's interests take precedence over making the sale, but I've experienced otherwise.
Thank You, as I do care. Charlottesville is a small town and if I operated by only caring about the sale my referrals would dry up and my reputation would be tarnished.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#119 May 4, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>You are so clueless at least on this topic, that I am actually embarrassed for you. I don't know where you and Hmmmmm and Huck get your jaded information but you need to stop acting like you know me and that am somehow a heartless a..h.ole who only cares about a commission. I think you guys are disappointed with how your lives have turned out or struggling to get by. But I don't know you so I won't make assumptions as you seem to enjoy doing. I can accept when one of you makes a valid point and I'm also willing to concede on certain topics. Ohh f.,it doesn't make any difference what I say.
Tell you what, you guys keep looking for various occupations to hate and cast dispersions on and I will continue to look for the good in people and in my country.
None of my information is "jaded" - its just information - at least as far as information on inequality goes. The fact is that most people really don't know even the simple basics of inequality. Nor do they ever think of the structural aspects of it.(Just as one small e.g.- "structural poverty" is the kind that happens when large economic shifts take place - like the widespread deindustrialization we had through the 70s and 80s. It had a lot to do with the famous "problems of the inner city.")

I also never implied (or intended to imply?) that you are some kind of a h ole. I tried to clear that up a couple of posts ago. I am making judgments only about what I can glean about how you see things like public assistance, the reasons people end up using it, and what the effects of having those programs around are. None of it was meant to imply anything about your character or morality or anything of that nature. I just think that your interpretations of it are wrong and far from that just being my "opinion" I do base most of my interpretation on knowledge of social science research - systematic, empirical stuff - not journalism.

I am also not disappointed with my life or what I have ended up doing.(I am frustrated these days by a Koch brothers/Murdoch infused shift in our culture to one where people vent their frustrations through highly oversimplified value schemas about our issues). Furthermore, I made my own way and I'm proud of it. If we had a local "poster child for the self-made wo/man" party I could go. I was born with no silver spoon. I used school and figured out how to put my own way through it. My parents didn't pay. I work hard and always have. If I've benefited from any "handouts" its been some student loan assistance and .... you know, a mortgage interest deduction.

I also admire all of those "heroic individuals" that our culture judges to have done great things by their own sheer grit and ambition and will or whatever. Its real and its important. It just makes a lousy basic for a "theory" of inequality, achievement, poverty or whatever.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#120 May 4, 2013
basiS for a "theory" of inequality...
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#121 May 4, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>You are so clueless at least on this topic, that I am actually embarrassed for you. I don't know where you and Hmmmmm and Huck get your jaded information but you need to stop acting like you know me and that am somehow a heartless a..h.ole who only cares about a commission. I think you guys are disappointed with how your lives have turned out or struggling to get by. But I don't know you so I won't make assumptions as you seem to enjoy doing. I can accept when one of you makes a valid point and I'm also willing to concede on certain topics. Ohh f.,it doesn't make any difference what I say.
Tell you what, you guys keep looking for various occupations to hate and cast dispersions on and I will continue to look for the good in people and in my country.
That what you think, maybe they are, but from reading their posts; I doubt it. I never had a real estate agent run the finances of a loan for me, that was always my loan officer.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#122 May 4, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>By the way you never explained how someone who performs the same job as you makes "hundreds of thousands" dollars more than you in he private sector. It seems reasonable that you would switch to the private sector.
And then there was either Hmmmmm or Huck who said they have bought and sold 9 homes in their life without an agent.
I'd say those claims are questionable at best.
I never stated that they do the same job as me. They can't, and probably couldn't get the security clearance to do it. But one of my dope smoking friends is a vice president at a bank who is in charge the mortgage department, irony? At least he'll admit to the lack of institutional control. He makes close to 8 digits (which is far more than hundreds of thousands more than me), and lives on an exclusive horse farm. Another one handles eminent domain leases for a utility. Of course, that is all off topic.
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I have limited expereince with real estate agents, but none of the times that I've dealt with them have they done the financing. I've told them my price range, and the first ten homes or so that were shown to me were at least 10% out of that range high. I can't "speak" for huck or hmmmmmmmm.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#123 May 4, 2013
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Thank You, as I do care. Charlottesville is a small town and if I operated by only caring about the sale my referrals would dry up and my reputation would be tarnished.
Yeah, it's not pesonal... don't take it so. We're not immune to using generalizations, either.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#124 May 4, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>I never stated that they do the same job as me. They can't, and probably couldn't get the security clearance to do it. But one of my dope smoking friends is a vice president at a bank who is in charge the mortgage department, irony? At least he'll admit to the lack of institutional control. He makes close to 8 digits (which is far more than hundreds of thousands more than me), and lives on an exclusive horse farm. Another one handles eminent domain leases for a utility. Of course, that is all off topic.
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I have limited expereince with real estate agents, but none of the times that I've dealt with them have they done the financing. I've told them my price range, and the first ten homes or so that were shown to me were at least 10% out of that range high. I can't "speak" for huck or hmmmmmmmm.
Dude, dope smoking 8 figure bank execs and security clearances? I want to party with you man.

C'ville Patriot, I'm sure I could hang with you too. Every time political-economy came up I'd open my mouth and say something you find outlandish. You'd give me an incredulous look and say "shut up you **** bastich & toss me another beer." Or at least, that's how it goes with my brother.

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