Dragas Gets the Final Vote, 4 More Ye...

Dragas Gets the Final Vote, 4 More Years on UVA BOV

There are 34 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jan 27, 2013, titled Dragas Gets the Final Vote, 4 More Years on UVA BOV. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The Virginia House of Delegates voted 63-33 Tuesday to confirm her reappointment by Governor Bob McDonnell to the UVA of Board Visitors.

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Golfer

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Jan 29, 2013
Students and the public should strongly protest at every BoV meeting in mass!
Back to Reality

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Jan 29, 2013
She was today informed that the actual title of her position is "Rector", not "Rect um" as she had thought previously, and that she might act accordingly in the future.
Hope

Conyers, GA

#3 Jan 29, 2013
So now that she's gotten this endorsement Ms Dragas can resign with her head high, without looking like she's had to cave in to anything. Or at least one can hope she will.
Happy

Collinsville, VA

#4 Jan 29, 2013
I saw it coming, but it's still disappointing. Dragas is incompetent and untrustworthy.
Good grief

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Jan 29, 2013
Ha what a flipping joke. Didn't we all expect this really? She's got someone by the balls.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Jan 29, 2013
I posted the following in comments on one of the other Dragas stories & figured I should just repost. These characters (Dragas, McDonnell, "yea" voters, etc.) think they are doing some good for universities. They are - in fact - killing them, but are too ignorant of what universities are, how they operate & what their place is in our own history to know it:

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Western culture celebrates itself largely on the basis of its scientific (including social science) and technical prowess.

The core foundation for this in Western history has been the University - an organization where people could make their living in the production ideas relatively free of specific, organized interests - such as political, religious, or economic interests. The autonomous university provides the basis for free thinking in a highly competitive networked environment. It provides creativity and the growth of knowledge/ideas/know-how over time.

What the entire Dragas affair represents is a much larger trend in universities, though one that is intensified in Virginia given its relatively conservative and anti-intellectual environment. The larger trend is the increasing attempts by corporation and state to capture the University and make sure it serves corporate and state interests. These things ultimately kill the very thing that corporation and state want to achieve. It amounts to the proverbial self-inflicted shot in the foot. As counter-intuitive as it might sound, if "the people" of the state of VA or its economic actors want to achieve maximum ROI, then the key course of action is not to try to make it happen. Leave academics alone to do what they do. Contrary to popular opinion, most could make a lot more money doing other things, so, in general, it is not done out of economic or political self-interest. Some people really do just pursue intellectual stuff for its own sake.

The right-wingers among you will find this "radical" idea familiar - its called laissez-faire. Most of the calls from Dragas supporters are after a style of governance that looks more like dictatorship.

If this was the Middle Ages, Dragas would be an underling of the Pope - making sure that the University served the interests of the Master - the Church. Whether by state, church, or corporate control it amounts to the same thing. Knowledge developed for something other than the sake of knowledge isn't knowledge - it is just ideology. The real danger, however, may lie in what gets left un-thought and un-discovered because the corporate management was making decisions about what may or may not be done or what must be done - and so forth.
Jogger

Chesapeake, OH

#7 Jan 29, 2013
Good grief wrote:
Ha what a flipping joke. Didn't we all expect this really? She's got someone by the balls.
Yes, one of those politicians!
Long-Time UVA Staff Membe

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Jan 29, 2013
What a travesty.
cvillemom

Gladys, VA

#9 Jan 29, 2013
"Helen Dragas lives to fight another day at the University of Virginia."

Regardless of how any of the readers may feel about Dragas, that statement does not represent objectivity on the part of the reporter -it is just plain not a nice thing to say in what is supposed to be a NEWS story, not an editorial.

"...Toscano, a vocal opponent of the rector's reappointment, said he hopes the confirmation process sends Dragas a signal.
"The vote today was not a ringing declaration of support for her..."

CORRECT, and the BOV action, led by Dragas, likewise sent a clear signal to Sullivan.

Now can we please move on to something else?
truth

Bassett, VA

#10 Jan 29, 2013
Thank God she still has a job, at least someone with a brain is working at uva! Maybe after her four year term, she can take over sullivan's job and we will get some results!
Whatever

Dallas, GA

#12 Jan 30, 2013
Just goes to show that when you are rich and famous, you have friends in high places!
PaynTxs

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Jan 30, 2013
I think the whole BOV should have been replaced, and that Sullivan should not have been reinstated. I say this only because the real reason for Sullivan's ouster was not clear. If it was justified, then leave the board alone. There is something deeper that caused this whole fiasco, and that is the part that seems to have been swept under the rug.
This is not a right or left thing. Both Bell and Toscano voted against her. These two guys are pretty solid reps on their respective sides of the isle. Too much money is floating around this cesspool.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Jan 30, 2013
Totally unfair, but to me she just has this scheming-smirk look about her, not one lending to compromise.
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Jan 30, 2013
truth wrote:
... we will get some results!
And what - exactly - does that mean? What would "results" look like, exactly? Methinks that you probably don't really know anything about what you are talking about.
truth

Bassett, VA

#17 Jan 30, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
And what - exactly - does that mean? What would "results" look like, exactly? Methinks that you probably don't really know anything about what you are talking about.
Knowing the REAL reason for the attempted ousting, I think I know more than you!
Janitor

Charlottesville, VA

#18 Jan 30, 2013
Remember folks, there's alot of this that goes on @UVA...The school really is not all that it's hyped up to be!
hope

Conyers, GA

#19 Jan 30, 2013
havetoluvuvanot wrote:
Are you people really surprised??? THIS IS how UVA works...Be the biggest ****...you stay and get promoted. Really care for work and the future of UVA....you'll be gone faster than a bag of rotten potatoes... GO UVA!!!!!
Nothing to do with UVA, this is what happens in virginia government
Hmmmmm

Harrisonburg, VA

#20 Jan 30, 2013
truth wrote:
<quoted text>Knowing the REAL reason for the attempted ousting, I think I know more than you!
I see. So your idea of UVA governance for the future is all about having the "back story" come out? That's brilliant [sarcasm]. Perhaps if you know so much and want the back story out, then you should just tell it.

And no - I seriously doubt that you know more than I. Its entirely possible that you know more about the specific insider stuff at UVA. But as for what is going on with Universities in general socio-historical context - I seriously doubt that.

I noticed, btw, that my initial comment drew some "clueless" and "nuts" - but I also notice no comments that say a thing about why it is clueless or nuts. I assure you that it isn't. I assure you that whatever you want from a university, a Dragas direction will not provide it - and that especially means if you want "results." It is absolutely not I who is clueless. Nuts maybe. But not clueless
Hmmmmm

Harrisonburg, VA

#21 Jan 30, 2013
"It is absolutely not I who is clueless."

Poorly written, indeed. Edit: I am absolutely not the one who is clueless.
Jerry

Houston, TX

#22 Jan 30, 2013
Why would she want this position knowing how folks feel about her...

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