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Accrediting Panel Places UVA on Warning After Failed Ouster - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News...

There are 14 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Dec 11, 2012, titled Accrediting Panel Places UVA on Warning After Failed Ouster - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

An accrediting panel has placed the University of Virginia on warning following the Board of Visitors' failed attempt to oust the prestigious public school's president this summer.

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typically defensive

Hillsville, VA

#1 Dec 11, 2012
Interesting that Simon doesn't say exactly what the reforms taken so-far are, and what other ones he plans to institute to get UVa out from under the "warning." Anyway it looks like the commission does not think that whatever Simon has so far done is enough. But most amazing, and most revealing of UVa's continuing arrogance, is the total lack of acknowledgment on Simon's part that UVa ever did anything wrong -- he said he was disappointed in the commission's decision, not in UVa's shameful acts during the summer #and his own somewhat flip-floppy role in them#.
Skeptical

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Dec 11, 2012
Thanks Dragas - - you've been a wonderful addition to the Board of Visitors.
Dragas secret plan

Richmond, VA

#3 Dec 11, 2012
Let us remember how it all began...rector Dragas contacted Darden Chairman Peter Kiernan with a "secret project together with two important alums [to oust Sullivan]..." Kiernan further assured the Darden board "Trust me, Helen has things well in hand...As many of you know no major decision of this kind can be made at Virginia without the support and assent of the Governor." http://www.readthehook.com/letters-darden-fou...
UVA Double Hoo and Donor

Zion, IL

#4 Dec 11, 2012
Helen Dragas must resign immediately. What a disgrace that UVA has received an accreditation warning. UVA's governance issues can only be fixed by cleaning house.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Dec 11, 2012
time to fall on the sword
embarrassed by arrogance

Crozet, VA

#6 Dec 11, 2012
how long must this limp along? it is time for her to go - the total lack of professionalism is clear - and not just on Helen's part. Shame on those who let her lead them into this mess. Shame on those who don't apologize but continue to make excuses for the board's actions and secrecy before, during and after this debacle.
UVA Community Member

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Dec 11, 2012
typically defensive wrote:
Interesting that Simon doesn't say exactly what the reforms taken so-far are, and what other ones he plans to institute to get UVa out from under the "warning." Anyway it looks like the commission does not think that whatever Simon has so far done is enough. But most amazing, and most revealing of UVa's continuing arrogance, is the total lack of acknowledgment on Simon's part that UVa ever did anything wrong -- he said he was disappointed in the commission's decision, not in UVa's shameful acts during the summer #and his own somewhat flip-floppy role in them#.
I find no fault with Simon, neither during The Debacle nor thereafter. Instead, I honor his willingness to be a obvious presence in support of President Sullivan during that most turbulent time. Speaking as an individual who witnessed Simon first-hand, he was at no juncture "somewhat flip-floppy".

Note as well that it is the BOV--rather than Simon in particular--that needs to focus most intently on reform, as they were the entity clearly at fault. The "shameful acts" that you refer to were those acts taken by the Dragas Cabal.
JJT

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Dec 11, 2012
Hit the road, Dragas! You are detriment and a disgrace to Mr. Jefferson's University!
Missy

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Dec 11, 2012
Are you happy now, Helen?
Cha Ching

Bronx, NY

#10 Dec 11, 2012
The Board of Visitors need to go. Why do they need these out of towners? Can't the University be governed some other way?
Sue

Bronx, NY

#11 Dec 11, 2012
Skeptical wrote:
Thanks Dragas -- you've been a wonderful addition to the Board of Visitors.
You are kidding, right? Helen was the instigator. Why did Gov McDonnell reinstate her?
Skeptical

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Dec 12, 2012
Sue wrote:
<quoted text>You are kidding, right? Helen was the instigator. Why did Gov McDonnell reinstate her?
Yes Sue, I'm kidding. Itís called sarcasm -- you know, mockery, cynicism, derision.
typically defensive

Hillsville, VA

#13 Dec 12, 2012
UVA Community Member wrote:
<quoted text>
I find no fault with Simon, neither during The Debacle nor thereafter. Instead, I honor his willingness to be a obvious presence in support of President Sullivan during that most turbulent time. Speaking as an individual who witnessed Simon first-hand, he was at no juncture "somewhat flip-floppy".
Note as well that it is the BOV--rather than Simon in particular--that needs to focus most intently on reform, as they were the entity clearly at fault. The "shameful acts" that you refer to were those acts taken by the Dragas Cabal.
If you read the entire batch of emails that were published in the Washington Post and the Hook more carefully, and note the dates thereof, you may take a different view regarding Simon's consistency. At the outset of the ousting effort, it is apparant from the emails that Simon (and probably Strine, who Sullivan ousted herself later) initially had a different expectation for his future role than merely remaining provost. His "moral outrage" was not expressed until several days later, when rumors floated of which people, instead of Simon, were at the top of Dragas' list for becoming interim (and possibly permanent) president, and a conveniently public forum presented him with a chance to declare his being on what was already surging as the future winning side. Only those who personally know Simon might surmise what he was actually thinking all along, but to me the released emails are revealing of something going on there that was more complicated and ambiguous than just simple steadfast loyalty. Certainly post-ouster Simon has proven himself -- in just doing his job for his boss -- to be quite faithful in protecting Sullivan's public image and reputation -- not much has since come to light that makes her look bad (or that makes her present, either), and Simon has carefully orchestrated quiet retreats from the few matters he and she proposed that were objectionable to the faculty, such as their new budgetary model. But we could have kept Casteen in place for that kind of non-change.
TIP

Free Union, VA

#14 Dec 12, 2012
Clean house everybody needs to go

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