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There are 29 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Dec 10, 2012, titled Second Bond Hearing for Mall Abduction Suspect Pushed Back - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News,.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The man accused of an attempted abduction at Fashion Square Mall in November will remain behind bars at Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail.

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Crack Scooter

Buckingham, VA

#1 Dec 10, 2012
Time for a comprehensive camera network at Fashion Square. Were it not for a camera at a jewelry store this guy might have gotten away with the kid.

Come to think of it the time has come for complete camera systems at all the local malls. Currently at Fashion Square only the major stores and jewelry stores that have been ripped off before have cameras and even those give spotty coverage at best.

We deserve good photographic resolution when we view the local deadheads in the Crime Times.

Since: Oct 10

Palmyra, VA

#2 Dec 10, 2012
Time for malls like Simon to hire competent security instead of 95 year old men who do nothing but drive a truck in circles all day long around the parking lot. Talk about a complete waste of time! Simon has a no firearms policy, so that's the main reason I don't go there. I'm sure all the bad guys are adhering to this policy as well.. uhh huh.. you betcha.
Haha

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Dec 10, 2012
Get the lady at Sears to run the camera. That loss prevention woman would have been all over it lol. That place has a killer video system. I can't believe the only photo/video footage they had came from the jewelry store.
Crazy

Ruckersville, VA

#4 Dec 10, 2012
Crack Scooter wrote:
Time for a comprehensive camera network at Fashion Square. Were it not for a camera at a jewelry store this guy might have gotten away with the kid.
Come to think of it the time has come for complete camera systems at all the local malls. Currently at Fashion Square only the major stores and jewelry stores that have been ripped off before have cameras and even those give spotty coverage at best.
We deserve good photographic resolution when we view the local deadheads in the Crime Times.
The camera didn't catch this guy, the kids fathered chased him down. As far as that picture they showed helping anyone figure out it was him had better eyes than me, I couldn't even tell what color the guy was.
Crazy

Ruckersville, VA

#5 Dec 10, 2012
Do agree they need better security personel. How they let this guy go is a joke, a bad joke, but still a joke. We need morals and better upbringing of our children, not to become a walking video clip of every move we make in life. But if this was handled correctly, the video of the kids father beating the breaks off this man would have been awesome!
wrong

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Dec 10, 2012
Crazy wrote:
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The camera didn't catch this guy, the kids fathered chased him down. As far as that picture they showed helping anyone figure out it was him had better eyes than me, I couldn't even tell what color the guy was.
The father chased him down and the security guard escorted him off the property so actually the camera did help catch him. It was only after the picture was released was he caught
What would you do

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Dec 10, 2012
If you saw a little kid who looked lost in a busy place, what would you do? Would you consider trying to help the kid find his/her parents? Would you hesitate? Or would you put the child first? How would you react if the parent found you while you were trying to help and thought you had other intentions? Would you panic? I am not saying this is what happened here, but I have not heard any details to prove otherwise. As reported thus far, there have been inconsistencies and gaping holes in this story. When I heard who was arrested, I became even more skeptical. I hope justice prevails.
Crazy

Ruckersville, VA

#8 Dec 10, 2012
wrong wrote:
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The father chased him down and the security guard escorted him off the property so actually the camera did help catch him. It was only after the picture was released was he caught
Yes he was caught after the pic, but the post I replied to said " were it not for a camera at a jewelry store this guy might have gotten away with the child." The father, not the camera, kept the kid from being taken. The pic helped, just saying wasn't very clear to me. Just glad they caught the guy. Just wanted to help you understand I was saying the camera had nothing to do with the child going home safely.
Larry

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Dec 10, 2012
What would you do wrote:
If you saw a little kid who looked lost in a busy place, what would you do? Would you consider trying to help the kid find his/her parents? Would you hesitate? Or would you put the child first? How would you react if the parent found you while you were trying to help and thought you had other intentions? Would you panic? I am not saying this is what happened here, but I have not heard any details to prove otherwise. As reported thus far, there have been inconsistencies and gaping holes in this story. When I heard who was arrested, I became even more skeptical. I hope justice prevails.
I know one thing for sure, I wouldn't touch or pick the child up.
Weekly reader

Charlottesville, VA

#10 Dec 10, 2012
What would you do wrote:
If you saw a little kid who looked lost in a busy place, what would you do? Would you consider trying to help the kid find his/her parents? Would you hesitate? Or would you put the child first? How would you react if the parent found you while you were trying to help and thought you had other intentions? Would you panic? I am not saying this is what happened here, but I have not heard any details to prove otherwise. As reported thus far, there have been inconsistencies and gaping holes in this story. When I heard who was arrested, I became even more skeptical. I hope justice prevails.
This child was not lost or alone. She was walking with both of her parents. He grabbed her from behind and took off with her. The little girls dad ran him down.
citizen

Buckingham, VA

#11 Dec 11, 2012
Crazy wrote:
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The camera didn't catch this guy, the kids fathered chased him down. As far as that picture they showed helping anyone figure out it was him had better eyes than me, I couldn't even tell what color the guy was.
The jewelry store camera picture told the cops what he looked like when the police had to locate him after Goober and Barney let him go!

Without the camera picture the police very likely WOULD NOT have been able to spot him for a subsequent arrest.

Like it or not cameras in malls are essential for the world of today, even if they do increase the likelihood of a local civic leader being caught on film while cutting a drug deal.
citizen

Buckingham, VA

#12 Dec 11, 2012
Sorry counselor but I've never heard of a seizure disorder that compels a person to seize children.

Bring back the whipping post and let's see if it works as good as endless intervention therapy that the public pays several hundred dollars an hour for these guys to receive in perpetuity.
Cmon Man

Norfolk, VA

#13 Dec 11, 2012
Weekly reader wrote:
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This child was not lost or alone. She was walking with both of her parents. He grabbed her from behind and took off with her. The little girls dad ran him down.
Again, he may or may not be guilty, but this whole story has been fishy from the very beginning. We have heard many perspectives over the last weeks. Some from people who were actually present that give a completely different account of how this all went down. All the facts presented in the media thus fare seem to point to the fact that there was some discrepancies in this "snatch and run" theory. Simply think about it. If you are trying to snatch a child why would you go to a mall crowded with people and then snatch one walking with her parents! Even assuming he is guilty and that was his intention, that scenario doesn't wash. Now, the reaction of the mall security (dead wrong) and the parents not calling 911 until hourse later, and not getting a cell phone picture of the guy both call into question everyones interpretation of this guy's intent/mental state. I had hoped the man's counsel would provide a better explanation, but I agree with others that I don't think seizuires cause you to "seize" children. I hope what he is saying is that due to seizures this man was disoriented and may not have been in full control of his faculties. This could go a long way to explain some of what has been missing in this story from the beginning. I am glad they found this person and look forward to hearing facts, and not hysteria. Let justice be done either way, but get better security...and good video monitoring system at the mall!
Get A Scanner

Buckingham, VA

#14 Dec 11, 2012
Hopefully part of the inevitable out of court settlement will include a stipulation that the mall installs a comprehensive camera network that covers the entire mall and surrounding parking lots. Those with police scanners know that there has been a lot of mall crime that never made the headlines since the vested interests don't want to dispel the myth that Jefferson's paradise is still untainted.

Put a few extra cameras on the public bus stop.
Crazy

Ruckersville, VA

#15 Dec 11, 2012
I do agree that cameras will help catch criminals, I am just saying how far should we go with it. We really would have little to worry about if we all get tracking collars that give our exact GPS location of every second of every hour of our life. Cameras will not stop crime, they may help after the fact, but obviously if someone wants to commit a crime, no camera will stop them. Banks, jewelry stores, and heck even the intersections with cameras still have people breaking the law. Until our society stops making excuses for the sick criminals, people will continue. Just think it is over kill to watch every move. Just my personal opinion, we don't need to be monitored all the time, we need to take care of ourselves and one another. Kids dad should have destroyed that man in the middle of the mall.
Weekly reader

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Dec 11, 2012
Cmon Man wrote:
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Again, he may or may not be guilty, but this whole story has been fishy from the very beginning. We have heard many perspectives over the last weeks. Some from people who were actually present that give a completely different account of how this all went down. All the facts presented in the media thus fare seem to point to the fact that there was some discrepancies in this "snatch and run" theory. Simply think about it. If you are trying to snatch a child why would you go to a mall crowded with people and then snatch one walking with her parents! Even assuming he is guilty and that was his intention, that scenario doesn't wash. Now, the reaction of the mall security (dead wrong) and the parents not calling 911 until hourse later, and not getting a cell phone picture of the guy both call into question everyones interpretation of this guy's intent/mental state. I had hoped the man's counsel would provide a better explanation, but I agree with others that I don't think seizuires cause you to "seize" children. I hope what he is saying is that due to seizures this man was disoriented and may not have been in full control of his faculties. This could go a long way to explain some of what has been missing in this story from the beginning. I am glad they found this person and look forward to hearing facts, and not hysteria. Let justice be done either way, but get better security...and good video monitoring system at the mall!
The only person who's story has changed is the kidnapper. First he said he was moving her out of his way, then he said he thought she was lost and was trying to find her family, and then he insults the world by claiming he has "kidnapping" seizures. You sure are willing to give this guy a lot of chances. I'm guessing you are a family member or friend.
Weekly reader

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Dec 11, 2012
Cmon Man wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, he may or may not be guilty, but this whole story has been fishy from the very beginning. We have heard many perspectives over the last weeks. Some from people who were actually present that give a completely different account of how this all went down. All the facts presented in the media thus fare seem to point to the fact that there was some discrepancies in this "snatch and run" theory. Simply think about it. If you are trying to snatch a child why would you go to a mall crowded with people and then snatch one walking with her parents! Even assuming he is guilty and that was his intention, that scenario doesn't wash. Now, the reaction of the mall security (dead wrong) and the parents not calling 911 until hourse later, and not getting a cell phone picture of the guy both call into question everyones interpretation of this guy's intent/mental state. I had hoped the man's counsel would provide a better explanation, but I agree with others that I don't think seizuires cause you to "seize" children. I hope what he is saying is that due to seizures this man was disoriented and may not have been in full control of his faculties. This could go a long way to explain some of what has been missing in this story from the beginning. I am glad they found this person and look forward to hearing facts, and not hysteria. Let justice be done either way, but get better security...and good video monitoring system at the mall!
As for your assertion that he wouldn't have tried to kidnap a child who was at the mall with her parents, I can name 2 kids who this happened to and were later found murdered off the top of my head, Adam Walsh and James Bulger. Just because he didn't succeed doesn't mean he didn't try.
Jmm

Charlottesville, VA

#18 Dec 11, 2012
So stupid!
lawgirl

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Dec 11, 2012
I had a childhood friend who had seizures a lot. She would see bees, dogs, and all kinds of stuff. That is when we would guide her home to her parents house.

I am not offering this as my opinion of guilty or not guilty, or defending or supporting this in any way.
Wondering

Charlottesville, VA

#20 Dec 11, 2012
Why was his bond hearing potponed again....Hmmmm

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