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James
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Thank you for your thoughtful and factual input. I have considered this to be the reality all along.
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Curious
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Mr. Reed is exactly right except for the 7 years to life comment. There is no such thing as a 7 year to life sentence under California Law. The legislature did away with indeterminate sentencing more than 30 years ago. The sentence for premeditated attempted murder is "life". Of course Mike knows that Greg never made any such attempt. It is a classic case of overcharging (a crime with no proof for conviction). Hope Ramsey is happy with ruining another life with no justification.
Curious
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Can of Man
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District Attorney Mike Ramsey is a little worm and a girlie man. A basic sissy. He is afraid of me and he should be!
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Searching
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Could someone post where in the California Penal Code, I can locate this so-called 7 years to life for attempted murder? According to my research all California crimes are punishable by determinate sentences.
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To searching
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look at CA Penal Codes 664 and 3046. Read together you'll find your answer. You need to do more research, there are several crimes that are punishable by indeterminate sentences.
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Searching
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Thanks for the info but it still appears that California does not have an indeterminate sentencing scheme. Penal code 664 states at it's pertnent part "However, if the crime attempted is willful, deliberate, and premeditated murder, as defined in Section 189, the person person guilty of that attempt shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for life with the possibility of parole". Penal Code 3046 deals with parole eligibility, it does not deal with sentencing. As previously stated CALIFORNIA DID AWAY WITH INDETERMINATE SENTENCING MORE THAN THIRTY YEARS AGO. Therefore Mr, district attorney Mike is trying to insult the public's intelligence when he says that he offered Gregory Wright a sentence of 7 years to life for attempted murder. Searching To searching wrote: look at CA Penal Codes 664 and 3046. Read together you'll find your answer. You need to do more research, there are several crimes that are punishable by indeterminate sentences.
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To searching
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my reading of 3046 says that someone sentenced to a term of "life" will have a parole review after 7 years. I think we all agree that the sentence may be longer than that depending on the results of the parole hearing(s). But that is how you get "7 years to life." Maybe I'm confused by what you are saying, but that seems pretty clear that the punishment for attempted murder is 7 to life.
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Searching
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Please post a quotation from PC 664 that says 7 to life. Searching To searching wrote: my reading of 3046 says that someone sentenced to a term of "life" will have a parole review after 7 years. I think we all agree that the sentence may be longer than that depending on the results of the parole hearing(s). But that is how you get "7 years to life." Maybe I'm confused by what you are saying, but that seems pretty clear that the punishment for attempted murder is 7 to life.
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To searching
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You are just being difficult, it is not contained in PC 664 and I think you know it or you just chose not to read it. 664 defines the punishment for attempted murder as "life." The definition of what "life" means is in 3046:
§ 3046. Person sentenced to life term; Statements and recommendations to be considered by board in considering parole
(a) No prisoner imprisoned under a life sentence may be paroled until he or she has served the greater of the following:
(1) A term of at least SEVEN calendar years.
(2) A term as established pursuant to any other provision of law that establishes a minimum term or minimum period of confinement under a life sentence before eligibility for parole.
I added the emphasis to the word "seven."
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Searching
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Thanks for blowing the smoke away so the truth can be seen. As you correctly state the punishment statute for attempted murder (PC 664) dictates a life sentence. Parole is a different matter and the DA does not decide when someone is to be paroled. So Mike is simply being his old disingenuous self when he informs the public that he offered Gregory Wright a "7 years to life" sentence. If anyone out there can post any case in California where a person sentenced to life was paroled in 7 years, it would be appreciated. Once again you should note that CALIFORNIA REPEALED IT'S INDETERMINATE SENTENCING LAWS MANY YEARS AGO!!!!! Searching To searching wrote: You are just being difficult, it is not contained in PC 664 and I think you know it or you just chose not to read it. 664 defines the punishment for attempted murder as "life." The definition of what "life" means is in 3046:
§ 3046. Person sentenced to life term; Statements and recommendations to be considered by board in considering parole
(a) No prisoner imprisoned under a life sentence may be paroled until he or she has served the greater of the following:
(1) A term of at least SEVEN calendar years.
(2) A term as established pursuant to any other provision of law that establishes a minimum term or minimum period of confinement under a life sentence before eligibility for parole.
I added the emphasis to the word "seven."
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