Clergy join janitors in pay protest.

Clergy join janitors in pay protest.

There are 176 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from May 17, 2007, titled Clergy join janitors in pay protest.. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Several pastors calling themselves the Indianapolis Clergy Committee said they would get themselves arrested if necessary today in a protest over low pay to janitors working at Downtown office buildings.

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TVS

Roanoke, IN

#1 May 17, 2007
If these "clergy" really want to raise wages for janitors and other unskilled service personnel, they should call for strict enforcement of the nation's immigration laws. It is not citizens of this country who have caused there to be a glut of unskilled workers, which thereby cause the depression in wages for unskilled workers. Janitors are seeing low wages because, if they quit in protest of the wage, there are 100 illegal aliens lined up to take the job.

But, instead, these are the same brand of "clergy" offering "sanctuary" to illegal aliens.

Another solution: Instead of forcing society to pay an inflated rate for janitors, these clergy should use church funds to raise their standard of living. The clergy need to be their own brothers' keeeper, rather than trying to force others to do their charity work for them.
Tim

AOL

#2 May 17, 2007
Enough already! Churches harbor illegal criminals, now they are mandating what people are paid.

Worry about your church and flock!
Act Now

Carmel, IN

#3 May 17, 2007
Illegal aliens driving down wages...and state government refusing to enforce illegal immigration laws.

Who benefits? Why businesses of course...the rest of us lose because of higher taxes.

ENFORCE OUR LAWS!!!!!!!!!!
Bart

AOL

#4 May 17, 2007
Black on black crime reaching an all time high Indianapolis and these chuckleheads pick this issue to "create tension." Trust me Good Rev...there is enough tension out on the streets of your hood. You don't need to go downtown to defend the trash dumpers and toilet cleaners. Clowns! Is how you want to spend the city's $25 million you are trying to extort?

Since: Jan 07

Noblesville

#6 May 17, 2007
Crime is up, so some "community leaders" are going to make a point by getting arrested. Then they wonder why the youth are involved in more crime then ever before, crime is up, and they are just leading by example. I also enjoy the fact that the ones complinaing about low wages are the same one promoting the illegal immigration which is forcing the low wages to begin with. What hypacrits! Your donations and contributions at work.
SSDD

Ft Mitchell, KY

#7 May 17, 2007
Is CCS a Union shop? Why, if not, do the clergy care if they are union or not. To get more money? Benefits? How sad, that they are forcing a company to unionize. Pay the employees union scale, increase the cost of doing business, and lose the contract to perform the cleaning service. Great, now the employees do not have a job because CCS lost the contracts to a lower bid from a non-union shop. Who is really doing what? Are the employees at CCS complaining, or is the union just interfering for additional dues? How much is the union paying the clergy for this endorsement?
old fogy

Louisville, KY

#8 May 17, 2007
The clergy are out of bounds on this one. By the way, I don't believe any of the janitors are in bondage on these jobs. They are free to find other employment or even move on to greener pastures in another line of work or location.
individual

San Jose, CA

#10 May 17, 2007
First these janitors are perfectly free to negotiation on their own as to wages, benefits, etc. Having a union comes with three guarantees:(1) the union thugs will rake off monies; (2) the net pay of the workers will decrease and (3) Mayor Bart will back the union.

Here's hoping these janitors come to their senses and if not, the hiring firms of the service 'cancel.'
TVS

Roanoke, IN

#12 May 17, 2007
What silliness. WIBC 1070 AM is jumping in with breathless "breaking news" stories about a little demonstration. Must be a very slow news day.
John Wilson

United States

#14 May 17, 2007
Where were these guys on election day when half the polls didn't open on time and some none at all?
Rena Martin

Carmel, IN

#15 May 17, 2007
Just one question. Who's dressing up in the giant rat suit??
waltzing matilda

Carbondale, IL

#16 May 17, 2007
It is extraordinarly interesting to hear so called middle class people dish workers who want a fair wage for their work. How do you think your family got to where it is at? Chances are that your family at one time belonged to a union. The eight hour day was secured by unions, safe working conditions were secured by unions, no child labor was secured by people ready to fight through their unions. Most benefits you take for granted were gained through the willingness of people to stand on picket lines. Yes, the clergy does belong side these people and so do all of us who believe in the dignity of ALL work. Solidarity forever.
Milt

Carmel, IN

#17 May 17, 2007
TVS wrote:
If these "clergy" really want to raise wages for janitors and other unskilled service personnel, they should call for strict enforcement of the nation's immigration laws. It is not citizens of this country who have caused there to be a glut of unskilled workers, which thereby cause the depression in wages for unskilled workers. Janitors are seeing low wages because, if they quit in protest of the wage, there are 100 illegal aliens lined up to take the job.
But, instead, these are the same brand of "clergy" offering "sanctuary" to illegal aliens.
Another solution: Instead of forcing society to pay an inflated rate for janitors, these clergy should use church funds to raise their standard of living. The clergy need to be their own brothers' keeeper, rather than trying to force others to do their charity work for them.
TVS, you got game! Bravo!!
First thought

AOL

#18 May 17, 2007
The way to raise pay is to not accept a job that doesn't pay enough. Believe me, when owners cannot hire someone to do the dirty work, they'll raise the pay until someone says ok. These clergy are not solving the problem, they're creating one.
waltzing matilda

Carbondale, IL

#19 May 17, 2007
If you have been to jail for justice let me shake your hand....
Lying down and sitting down are ways to take a stand....
If you sang a song for freedom or walked that picket line
If you have been to jail for justice.
Than you are a friend of mine.

Thank you Anne Fenney.
fed up

Indianapolis, IN

#20 May 17, 2007
If they don't like the pay they don't have to take the job.
I sure am glad the clergy are law abiding citizens. It sure makes me want to go the church...NOT!!!!!!!!!!
agreed

Indianapolis, IN

#21 May 17, 2007
Tim wrote:
Enough already! Churches harbor illegal criminals, now they are mandating what people are paid.
Worry about your church and flock!
Law enforcement and our Government agencies needs to really start putting presure on these Churches. They do harbor these crimminals. They also do everything they can to "sponsor" them as well. Once they've done it those they have sponsored have more friends and family pile in. This has been over looked for years. They are as if not more quilty to contributing to this ILLEAGAL problem. They do it for one reason. Don't let them tell you any different! They are farming the farm. Bring em in and reep the contributions on Sunday. The sponsors bring in more family and friends and the =$$ They hide behind the charitable curtain they call humanity. Imigration should really crack down on these guys. Take away the tax exemption if they are caught. That would put a stop to it. Hit em the pocketbook.
agreed

Indianapolis, IN

#22 May 17, 2007
Milt wrote:
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TVS, you got game! Bravo!!
No way they are making millions of tax free dollars off these people. It's not just an Indy issue this has been going on for years. The Catholic Church has made a living on this since the early 50's on the boarder states.

Since: Feb 07

Redwood City, CA

#23 May 17, 2007
If the wages are too low don't take the job and then scream that you are not being paid above poverty level. You knew what the wages were when you were hired. Clergy- this is not a matter for you to be involved in!

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis, IN

#25 May 17, 2007
TVS wrote:
... It is not citizens of this country who have caused there to be a glut of unskilled workers, which thereby cause the depression in wages for unskilled workers. Janitors are seeing low wages because, if they quit in protest of the wage, there are 100 illegal aliens lined up to take the job....
Nonsense. Immigrants, legal or otherwise, are not taking any jobs; you lazy americans are giving them away. If the government was even casually interested in enforcing border restrictions, they would have built an electrified fence long ago, and would be focused on our northern neighbor, not Mexico. Remember the saudi terrorists entered the states via canada, and you lemmings want to believe latin america is somehow the source of our problems because some fascist windbag told you so.

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