Motorcycle crash blocked westbound la...
Bill

Leola, PA

#42 Apr 7, 2010
Frank wrote:
These bikers should be fined for holding up traffic, you could tell be the picture it was another one of those Harley riders most likely drunk.
Wow, someone rides a bike so they must be a drunk. It's jerks like you that normally cause these type of problem. See, jerks like you think the world revolves around you. So you exercise little or no patience and cause the accident. Then you cry the usual "I never saw the motorcycle" which translates to "I never saw the motorcycle becuase I never looked for the motorcycle." Sometimes you'll cry the "It wasn't my fault, he came flying out of nowhere". The truth is some folks on bikes do ride faster than they should, but in most cases the person on the bike is within the speed limits.

Simply put numbnuts, motorcycles have EVERY right to the road as cars, trucks and buses. Deal with it, open your eyes, not your mouth.

My hopes are that the rider in this case is fine. My prayers go out to him/her and their family.
Donna

Stewartstown, PA

#43 Apr 7, 2010
TOO BAD SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE BLAME AND WHERE TO PLACE IT...OR EVEN WHAT KIND OF BIKE IT WAS. MOST OF THE ACCUSATIONS ARE WRONG. ANYWAY, WE SHOULD BE MOST CONCERNED FOR ALL THE DRIVERS INVOLVED AND THEIR SAFETY. I AM A CLOSE RELATIVE OF THE DRIVER OF THE BIKE...HE IS HURT BADLY BUT WILL BE OK WITH A LONG ROAD TO RECOVERY. AGAIN WE SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE HUMAN LIVES AT STAKE HERE AND NOT THE LOUD PIPES OR MAKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT SUCH A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. BIKE RIDERS HAVE FAMILIES TOO....SO FOR ALL OF YOU IDIOTIC PEOPLE I SOOOOOO HOPE THAT YOUR FAMILIES NEVER HAVE TO RECIEVE A PHONE CALL LIKE MY FRIEND DID...AND IF THEY DO I WOULD PRAY FOR THEM AND NOT MAKE STUPID ACCUSATIONS. THANK GOD HE WILL BE OK!!!! OH BY THE WAY THE DRIVER OF THE TRUCK INVOLVED STAYED TO LET THE POLICE KNOW THAT THE BIKER DID ALL HE COULD TO AVOID THE ACCIDENT...HE HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO DO WHAT HE DID!!! THINK ABOUT IT ALL WILL YOU!!!!!!!
Bill

Leola, PA

#44 Apr 7, 2010
marvin wrote:
Motorcyclists should have to pass an advanced proficiency exam along with the drivers test. Most get the bikes because they look cool or want to impress those loose beer-bellied Harley women that look like they fell out da ugly tree. Take a close look next time, what idiots. Guaranteed the brain's the size of a pea. The gov't needs to find ways to slow down population growth anyway.
Funny, I always felt that anyone that has a license for any vehicle should have to ride a motorcycle for no less than 1 month so they learn to respect them. It would certainly change the way clowns like you drive and think.
Bill

Leola, PA

#45 Apr 7, 2010
MSNBC wrote:
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I don't really care about this guy because he doesn't care about others because he chose to ride a loud modified bike around without consideration for those who have to be disturbed by his loud bike. He obviously didn't care about his family either because he knew there are bad distracted drivers out there, yet riding his bike was more important than making sure he's there for his family. Darwinism at work.
Wow! You're messed up! In other words if it disturbs you, then its a problem? Despite the gguys rights? What about the folks with the over-bassed stereos? I guess those are fine because you probably have one right? Or the yapping dog? Thats ok because yours barks all of the time? Right? You certainly exposed yourself as a class act.
Gas Rat

Laurel, MD

#46 Apr 7, 2010
Bill wrote:
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Funny, I always felt that anyone that has a license for any vehicle should have to ride a motorcycle for no less than 1 month so they learn to respect them. It would certainly change the way clowns like you drive and think.
I make every effort to look out for bikes. Unfortunately, many riders out here, including the crotch rockets have no respect. Respect is a two way street.
John

Elizabethtown, PA

#47 Apr 7, 2010
MSNBC wrote:
And for the record, I hope this individual recovers and will gain the sense to not put his life in the hands of distracted drivers.
Dude - nothing like contradicting yourself! You seem pretty much like an wholea$$ to me!
Harley

United States

#48 Apr 7, 2010
MSNBC wrote:
<quoted text>
I think we're saying the same thing here. People should consider how their actions affect others. This guy didn't consider how his bike wakes up my baby boy and he didn't consider that he should keep himself safe for his own family so why should I consider his feelings? Just another poser rebel taken out by someone not paying attention. You riders have got to have brain damage to put your lives in the hands of all the bad drivers out there.
First my thought are with the rider.
Now MSNBC I wonder if your so smart why don't you know how much of a jackass you are. If you like it or not motorcycles have as much right to the road as you do in your car so deal with it shut up and try to stop yourself from making a bigger ass of yourself than you already have.
harley princess

York, PA

#49 Apr 7, 2010
Donna wrote:
TOO BAD SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE BLAME AND WHERE TO PLACE IT...OR EVEN WHAT KIND OF BIKE IT WAS. MOST OF THE ACCUSATIONS ARE WRONG. ANYWAY, WE SHOULD BE MOST CONCERNED FOR ALL THE DRIVERS INVOLVED AND THEIR SAFETY. I AM A CLOSE RELATIVE OF THE DRIVER OF THE BIKE...HE IS HURT BADLY BUT WILL BE OK WITH A LONG ROAD TO RECOVERY. AGAIN WE SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE HUMAN LIVES AT STAKE HERE AND NOT THE LOUD PIPES OR MAKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT SUCH A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. BIKE RIDERS HAVE FAMILIES TOO....SO FOR ALL OF YOU IDIOTIC PEOPLE I SOOOOOO HOPE THAT YOUR FAMILIES NEVER HAVE TO RECIEVE A PHONE CALL LIKE MY FRIEND DID...AND IF THEY DO I WOULD PRAY FOR THEM AND NOT MAKE STUPID ACCUSATIONS. THANK GOD HE WILL BE OK!!!! OH BY THE WAY THE DRIVER OF THE TRUCK INVOLVED STAYED TO LET THE POLICE KNOW THAT THE BIKER DID ALL HE COULD TO AVOID THE ACCIDENT...HE HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO DO WHAT HE DID!!! THINK ABOUT IT ALL WILL YOU!!!!!!!
donna, i just talked to one of my friends and he told me that C. is hurt real bad, but is gonna hopefully be ok...i always get a heavy heart when i hear about a motorcycle accident that close to work just knowing it will be one of my fellow employees. sending prayers to his family and friends...
relievetd again worried

Felton, PA

#50 Apr 7, 2010
Family wrote:
<quoted text>
NO HE DID NOT
What department does he work. I talked to my husband at his lunch time and he hadn't heard anything. That was at 11:30 and I just arrived home from my job and haven't heard anything more. I seen the YDR early this morning and seen the bike wasn't like my husband's. But I still held my breath as we have friends who work at HD and other places on their way to work at that hour. I pray there is a good turnout.
Donna

Stewartstown, PA

#51 Apr 7, 2010
harley princess wrote:
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donna, i just talked to one of my friends and he told me that C. is hurt real bad, but is gonna hopefully be ok...i always get a heavy heart when i hear about a motorcycle accident that close to work just knowing it will be one of my fellow employees. sending prayers to his family and friends...
..........YES HE IS HURT REALLY BADLY, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THINGS SEEM TO POINT TO THE FACT THAT HE WILL BE OK!!! HOW LONG IS STILL TO BE SEEN????? I AM TOLD THERE WILL BE A LONG HARD ROAD TO RECOVERY..BUT HE IS TOUGH AND STRONG WILLED HE WILL BE OK!!
annie11455

York, PA

#52 Apr 7, 2010
It was not a Harley worker. It was a friend of mine and he was not air-lifted. He says the ambulance driver was doing his best to hit every pothole on the way to the hospital.
Concerned wrote:
It was a HD worker on his way to work - he was air lifted to the hospital - and it was NOT his fault - the Rollback hit him
Tina

York, PA

#53 Apr 7, 2010
I am the crash victim's wife and would like to report he is alive but has alot of injuries. I would also like to say thank you to the well wishers. As for the stupid comments that some people just think they have to say I sure hope that you never have to see people you care about hurt for whatever reason. People should never throw stones because it can come back and bite you in the ass!!!!
Lori

York, PA

#54 Apr 7, 2010
annie11455 wrote:
It was not a Harley worker. It was a friend of mine and he was not air-lifted. He says the ambulance driver was doing his best to hit every pothole on the way to the hospital.<quoted text>
You must be talking about another accident that happened today. The accident that happened in this article is a Harley worker. He was not airlifted either. I am a family member also.

To some of the other posters on here. I do not have or ride a bike. I do have a lot of friends and family that ride bikes and or work at Harley. It is always sad and scary when you hear of a bike accident because there is no protection there. There are just as many bikes accidents out there caused by cars or trucks as there are caused by bike. I urge everyone to be on the lookout for others on the road whether you are in a car or on a bike. They are called accidents for a reason and that reason is because it was an "ACCIDENT".

As for bikes being loud, they are no worse than some lawn tractors that people start mowing with first thing in the morning or blasting stereo speakers that make your windows rattle when they drive by. What I'm trying to say is we live in a country where you are free to do what makes you happy. Don't begrudge others because you can't find a hobby or something fun to make you happy.

We're here for you C & T!!
NoSympathy

AOL

#55 Apr 7, 2010
annie11455 wrote:
It was not a Harley worker. It was a friend of mine and he was not air-lifted. He says the ambulance driver was doing his best to hit every pothole on the way to the hospital.<quoted text>
I guess it would have been better if the EMS crew drove only 10 MPH so as not to disturb the multiple fractures that I am sure the guy sustained, possibly causing him to bleed out. How about thanking the EMS crew instead of saying crap about them. Blame the state/townships/boroughs for the multiple potholes that are unavoidable for everyone, including those people trying to save lives.
another Bike Rider

Felton, PA

#56 Apr 7, 2010
Did he ride a blue and silver Harley? I would see him on the way to work in the mornings. Hope he gets through this and stays strong. Give him my well wishes.
witness

York, PA

#57 Apr 7, 2010
I've often heard that posts here are beyond the pale because you can say anything without having to leave your real name. The assumptions and views expressed by several of you are nothing short of shameful. Freedom of speech? There's a church you might want to join!

Every morning I sit on N Hills Rd waiting to turn west and every morning I watch the light and traffic. This morning, I observed a flatbed tractor trailer and a stream of traffic bearing down on the light as it turned yellow. The tractor trailer's exhaust pipes immediately bellowed black smoke - indicating the driver was going to run the light. A light blue mini-van could be seen across the flat bed & they too seemed to be intent on "beating the light". Vehicles behind both in both lanes began braking and a gap was starting to develop. The light turned red before the TT could enter the intersection, but also before the vehicles facing north on NH Rd would see a green arrow.

I observed the mini-van pitch forward - indicating they'd hit the brakes - hard. Bear in mind that I could see just the top half of the mini-van with the lower half blocked from view by the TT. I thought, to myself, they're gonna be hard-pressed to stop in time.

The TT ran the light at a high rate of speed & as he passed through the intersection it was shocking to observe a motorcycle tumbling along RT 30 with parts flying in all directions. The rider came into view - flying through the air - hitting the pavement hard on his left shoulder - helmeted head striking the pavement, which caused the helmet to come off as if it was a football being kicked through the uprights.

I reached for my cell to call 911 and glanced around at the other vehicles. Numerous folks were already calling on their cells. Knowing my view had been blocked from what actually occirred, I decided not to add to what would be an already busy 911 call. A young lady was already rushing into the intersection to render aid.

I hope he's going to be OK. I don't care where he works or if his pipes were loud. I was working at AMF when Harley came to York (on the bomb line). The folks on the floor toiling at their work are your neighbors and just like you - the salt of the earth. 98% are upstanding family members just doing their jobs and doing their best to get by in these tough times - as are we all.

This morning's event hit me hard because I came close to losing my life in that same intersection some 40 years ago. I was headed north on NH Rd. Slowed for the light, which turned green, so I downshifted my Datsun to 2nd gear & hit the gas. A TT with a load of cattle picked that moment to run a red light & T-boned me doing (the police estimated) 70-MPH. A witness chased the TT and forced him to stop a bit past Cat. He went to jail - I went to the hospital.

So what happened this morning? I'd bet the motorcycle driver braked for the light & that the mini-van - seeing the TT punch the throttle by way of that blackened exhaust - thought they'd run the light too. That would explain the sudden forward pitch of the mini-van as they stood on the brakes. Too late.

I'd speculate the mini-van tagged the cycle, which would explain why it and the rider were being tossed through the intersection.

Don't know for sure given my vantage point, but the drivers waiting facing north on NH Rd would have had an unobstructed view and hopefully one or more will have given a report to the police.
Stanley

Dover, PA

#58 Apr 7, 2010
Family wrote:
Concerned - how do you know this? Do you know his condition?
Yes two broken arms, and two broken legs and perminate brain damage.
drd

York, PA

#59 Apr 7, 2010
If you dont have anything good to say keep your trashy worthless thoughts to yourself! It blows my mind to read bashing comments when a life is at stake from a motorcycle ACCIDENT. he is an experienced rider who did not ask for this but will recover over time. he needs positive thoughts and prayers now not losers making stupid unjust an unfounded remarks! I am also a close family member who is grateful to all who helped from the scene to the hospital. We are here for you both. We love you!
Frank

Dover, PA

#60 Apr 7, 2010
That jerk held me up for over an hour, the cops should have pushed the bike off the road and let decent drivers go on their way. The bikers are being killed off, maybe the noise will end soon.
Darwin

Harrisburg, PA

#61 Apr 7, 2010
Stanley wrote:
<quoted text>Yes two broken arms, and two broken legs and perminate brain damage.
So we can assume that you've been in a motorcyle accident?

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