Feds: Biker gang plotted to kill, ext...
Tommy Gunz

Grand Rapids, MI

#84 Oct 30, 2009
81 I am evil scary aint I
Bill Smith

United States

#85 Oct 31, 2009
realist wrote:
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I am sure that there are a percentage of officers that are thugs too, what I was trying to say is that everyone on 2 wheels and in black isn't a thug- just as all officers arent thugs. And yes, RICO should be applied to all of them.
A 100%

If RICO applied to police departments, they would all go away.
Judge Roy Bean

Melrose Park, IL

#86 Oct 31, 2009
...round up all that scum and send them to court , before hanging them see if we can broadcast this on TV.....

Law West of the Peco's....
Just the facts

AOL

#87 Oct 31, 2009
Bill Smith wrote:
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A 100%
If RICO applied to police departments, they would all go away.
Billy your a Sad Case .

You need to get a life and stop being the Keeper for the Pagans .

They are Never going to let you in their gang .
Bill Smith

United States

#88 Oct 31, 2009
Just the facts wrote:
<quoted text> Billy your a Sad Case .
You need to get a life and stop being the Keeper for the Pagans .
They are Never going to let you in their gang .
And this from the one who lied by saying he would not respond to me. Why are you such a hypocrite and a liar? I know, it because you only have emotions and no facts to back up you opinions.
Larry

Gwynn Oak, MD

#89 Nov 16, 2009
The most corrupt gang I can think of are the criminals in Congress. Politicians are like rats, in that what they steal is small compared to what they destroy to get it! They make bikers look like Girl Scouts.
LCV

AOL

#90 Nov 16, 2009
realist wrote:
I think that the story here has created a misunderstanding. Pagans are a group of organized criminals, sure they ride bikes and may be "bikers" but we are not talking about the people we see riding around town (usually). And I am sure that those types of clubs count for very few of the riders out there- you know, 1%ers.
I am a biker in that I ride a Harley. I am also a father, a husband, a Christian, a firefighter, a soccer coach, a member of the citizens corps, a homeowner, and working 2 jobs. Lets not get the word biker mixed up- riding is awesome, you should all try it sometime.
You're awesome. Keep up the good work. Like anything else, people can get obsessive about their bikes which leads to behavioral problems. You've got good perspective in your life.
we the

Foster City, CA

#91 Nov 16, 2009
the criminal cops of marin sonma county ca
are not much difrent crimes bennifted for the benifit of the criminal cops group

like the felon cop on the other cpom mits lt mc carthy
Bill Smith

Charleston, SC

#92 Nov 17, 2009
LCV wrote:
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You're awesome. Keep up the good work. Like anything else, people can get obsessive about their bikes which leads to behavioral problems. You've got good perspective in your life.
Do you have any sort facts that even begin to support your biased opinions?
LCV

AOL

#93 Nov 19, 2009
Bill Smith wrote:
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Do you have any sort facts that even begin to support your biased opinions?
Just common sense, Bill. Use the bike for good things instead of trying to be cool, taking drugs then falling into a criminal lifestyle.

I'm reporting a pattern seen by observers all over, professional and nonprofessionals.

Also, I've known some criminal types. They really were delusional and made wrong decisions in their life. The bike became their god.
Joke

Hampstead, MD

#94 Nov 19, 2009
thomas paine wrote:
I don't know that you would want to say that to their faces.
Wearing leather and riding a Harley does not make you tough. All the guys I grew up and went to school with that became bikers were grade A p#ssies. Still are.
Bill Smith

Charleston, SC

#95 Nov 19, 2009
LCV wrote:
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Just common sense, Bill. Use the bike for good things instead of trying to be cool, taking drugs then falling into a criminal lifestyle.
I'm reporting a pattern seen by observers all over, professional and nonprofessionals.
Also, I've known some criminal types. They really were delusional and made wrong decisions in their life. The bike became their god.
I see you still have yet to offer any facts, only your "common sense" opinions.
Bill Smith

Charleston, SC

#96 Nov 19, 2009
Joke wrote:
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Wearing leather and riding a Harley does not make you tough. All the guys I grew up and went to school with that became bikers were grade A p#ssies. Still are.
Is there like a grade B?

I'm willing to make a wager that you are nothing more than an internet commando that would not have the courage to speak your words to any person to their face.
ABC123

Concord, CA

#97 Nov 19, 2009
Bill is a wannabe or at least coming off as one. Who else has time to go around defending bikers on the web? Real bikers don't care what some tools on the internet think. You shouldn't either Bill. It's a nice day for a ride, a little chilly though, I'll have to wake up the back warmer.
lois

Landisburg, PA

#98 Nov 19, 2009
hA
Y there out there helping sick kids to
and make a wish.
Inge BD

United States

#99 Nov 19, 2009
Just the facts wrote:
<quoted text> I agree . It's sad when your life Revolves around a Motorcycle . In fact all bikers are the same , I'm sorry I have to say that but its the truth . I know a guy that got a motorcycle then he got all kinds of tattoos and he started to wear all black . All he did was go on rides and hangout at a bar . He even called his baby girl " Harley " what a joke . From what I see it's just like most guys that drive a Corvette or a Harley , They really can't afford it . So it becomes the center of their Life and everything revolves around it . Then the think they should get respect ?
Don't assume that all Motorcycle groups are the same. Look at our Local HOG chapter.
BTW The HOG chapter has professionals and law abiding citizens that just like to ride and enjoy the group activities, Turkey run for the food bank, Teddy bear run for the less fortunate and to much activity to mention the whole year long... no violence there of any kind! Do your research before you mouth of and assume that they are all the same!!
Bill from Cruces

Albuquerque, NM

#100 Nov 19, 2009
Hmmm, I think if you look a bit harder, you'll find there are no more so called "outlaw biker gangs". They are well organized incorporated entities now days. Did it work? eh yes and no.

From what I have read in the comments, it is very apparent there are several who have no idea what it is to ride regardless it be with a club or as an independent. Like the saying goes, If I have to explain, you still wouldn't understand. Ride free...
Bill Smith

Charleston, SC

#101 Nov 19, 2009
ABC123 wrote:
Bill is a wannabe or at least coming off as one. Who else has time to go around defending bikers on the web? Real bikers don't care what some tools on the internet think. You shouldn't either Bill. It's a nice day for a ride, a little chilly though, I'll have to wake up the back warmer.
Can you even explain your opinion with at least a few facts?
Civilian Militia

United States

#103 Dec 2, 2009
I see most of you dont know crap about this Motorcycle club .Ill tell ya the Pagans are a very Violent and dangerous club when provoked trust me I know several of them including Jessie Kicker and Mr nice guy wich was the Vice president of the last Rebels before he turned and was kicked out of both clubs. The Last Rebels is a puppet club to the pagens thats what makes the pagens so fierce because they have no club houses they float from puppet club to puppet club so the feds dont really know how many members thay really have a puppet club or a support club will have a 16 on the vest 16th letter in the alpabet .The pagens are nasty dirty and they dont care if they live or die they are a true 1% club 99% of your clubs are law abiding clubs only 1% are outlaws thats where the 1% come from most none 1% clubs are AMA chartered clubs.Kicker is a convicted child molester he is a sex offender and is a cooker he wears a 13 patch Mr Nice guy runs his mouth and hides behinds the soldiers and moore who is jessie is a work of art if it wasent done his way well you will see a couple Nomads in your face and they will do whatever he tells them.but for everybodys info they have elected a new vice pres for the pagans and a new state pres for the Last Rebels because he went down as well Tom Geer was his name the pagans are up and running as strong as they were before they was busted.keep that in mind thay are going to be very hard to stop.alot of you on here might ride dont ever trust a pagan dont look at one run away from the smell cause they stink and no they are far from a gentlemens club .I know this post might be a litlle of topic but so are most of the post on here .
Retired LRMC Huntington

United States

#104 Dec 16, 2009
Civilian Militia wrote:
I see most of you dont know crap about this Motorcycle club .Ill tell ya the Pagans are a very Violent and dangerous club when provoked trust me I know several of them including Jessie Kicker and Mr nice guy wich was the Vice president of the last Rebels before he turned and was kicked out of both clubs. The Last Rebels is a puppet club to the pagens thats what makes the pagens so fierce because they have no club houses they float from puppet club to puppet club so the feds dont really know how many members thay really have a puppet club or a support club will have a 16 on the vest 16th letter in the alpabet .The pagens are nasty dirty and they dont care if they live or die they are a true 1% club 99% of your clubs are law abiding clubs only 1% are outlaws thats where the 1% come from most none 1% clubs are AMA chartered clubs.Kicker is a convicted child molester he is a sex offender and is a cooker he wears a 13 patch Mr Nice guy runs his mouth and hides behinds the soldiers and moore who is jessie is a work of art if it wasent done his way well you will see a couple Nomads in your face and they will do whatever he tells them.but for everybodys info they have elected a new vice pres for the pagans and a new state pres for the Last Rebels because he went down as well Tom Geer was his name the pagans are up and running as strong as they were before they was busted.keep that in mind thay are going to be very hard to stop.alot of you on here might ride dont ever trust a pagan dont look at one run away from the smell cause they stink and no they are far from a gentlemens club .I know this post might be a litlle of topic but so are most of the post on here .
you are correct I left the Last Rebels when darrel decided to bring the pagans in the club in 1996 and it went down hill from there darrel wanted to bring the pagans in to get the Avengers off of us.... at that time all the club had to do is go AMA.that was when the club house was on 3rd ave the pagans coughed up the money for the clubhouse on 31st where it is now.and yes the rebels have elected a new state president the clubhouse is open every weekend and they also have a couple of new prospects.The Pagans have also elected a new national President as well as a national sgt at arms.so they are also rebuilding.I still talk to a few of the old guys and go on a few runs but i still dont like the Pagan involvement they bring alot of trouble on the club and there still flying 16 patches always will.

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