Fargo to take the helm at Superferry

Fargo to take the helm at Superferry

There are 55 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Apr 26, 2008, titled Fargo to take the helm at Superferry. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

The one-time Pacific Fleet leader says most of his experience is in maritime operations STORY SUMMARY READ THE FULL STORY Retired Navy Adm.

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willie

North Little Rock, AR

#1 Apr 26, 2008
"Superferry opponents said Fargo's appointment underscores their concern that the ship's main purpose is as a military vessel"

And if they had named Bugs Bunny as the new CEO the opponets would have said the carrot coalition was behind it to raise the price of transporting carrots interisland.

Hey look chicken little, the sky is falling.
Big Okole

Cape Charles, VA

#2 Apr 26, 2008
Who cares if the superferry is used to transport stryker vehicles between the islands.

The economy of Hawaii depends a lot on the military. If the soldiers can't get to the training areas, the army might as well move the stryker brigade somewhere else and the Hawaiian economy will suffer.

The airlines transport soldiers n charters all the time.

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Looks like the the ridership on the superferry is increasing. Beginning on Monday the bread is gong to Maui on the superferry.

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The superferry should explore other markets such as a package delivery service. They can establish drop off locations throughout town and on Maui.

This way you can drop off a 50 pound box of stuff for your relatives to pick up on the other end and pay like $20.
Achmed Ridiculous

San Francisco, CA

#3 Apr 26, 2008
ZZZzzz. More lose money on trying to find use in a falling global economy?
Realities vs ainokea? The sky fell a long time ago.
Howard D

Mililani, HI

#4 Apr 26, 2008
Superferry is dead... arriving on Maui everyday dame near empty yet they continue to lie. Adding a second trip is an attempt to find a market that isn't there. Fuel prices are killing them like it did Aloha and it won't be long before their trip prices will sky rocket and when it goes belly up guess what you the tax payer will become the owners in a Lingle bail out.A new CEO is a sign that they are in trouble.. BIG trouble.

“A Maui Homeowner”

Since: Nov 07

Kula, Maui

#5 Apr 26, 2008
Admiral Fargo has made a big mistake in his choice of career path. 2,000 riders in 8 trips is 250 per trip, still almost 50% below break-even. The Puke A Ferry is dead, it's just a matter of time until the body is carted away.
Ainokea4u

Makawao, HI

#6 Apr 26, 2008
"Superferry opponents said the appointment underscores concerns about the connection between the ferry and the military."

That has got to be the stupidest statement from someone who just doesn't know.

FACT: Did you know that our "local" airlines employs military jet and helicopter pilots? Does that make the local airlines a scheme that they will turn their fleet into a military operation?****.... geez
Robert

Mililani, HI

#7 Apr 26, 2008
Why do they lie so much is something bothering me. I don't have anything invested in this venture but if I was an investor I'd be concerned.
Aunty Lu

Mililani, HI

#8 Apr 26, 2008
In its entire history Hawai`i has let the haole mainlander come in dictate the terms and do whatever they want. The Superferry is another classic example of arrogant mainland haoles who came here and did what they wanted,they lied,bought Lingle and even changed laws to circumnavigate the courts and once again history repeated its self.Hawai`i never learns.
Jim

Haiku, HI

#9 Apr 26, 2008
More desparation from the Stupidferry. This move would not be happening if Garibaldi didn't come off as the lying fool that he is. He couldn't take the heat so he got out of the kitchen. But a change in management certainly doesn't mean more ridership. What are they gonna do next....put a sign on the side of the boat that says 'Under New Management'. Do any of you actually go into a restaurant that has that sign on the window that you haven't been to before?
Foster

Kahului, HI

#10 Apr 26, 2008
Superferry needs new management because their existing management has a history of bad decisions, the first of which was their decision to not put ramps on their vessels. Why not replace Tig Krekel with Adm Fargo? Krekel was around when the decision to not put ramps on the vessel was made. The state has spent over $40M trying to help the Superferry succeed. It's time for the Superferry to pull its own weight. Maybe Adm Fargo replacing Garibaldi is the first step in the right direction...but keep Krekel back on the East Coast with J. F. Lehman.
Micky

Mililani, HI

#11 Apr 26, 2008
Fargo is just some dumb old military **** with no successful business experience. Just because you spend 30 years sailing in the Navy dosen't make you qualified to run a large business.

Most ex military lifers are worthless in the civilian world because they lose control over people can't pull rank,no one cares if you were a general or a pee on.

Can't wait to see how the employees like working for some old military **** barking out orders.They will probably start the day saluting the flag and singing the national anthem.
Kimo

Hutto, TX

#12 Apr 26, 2008
Admiral Fargo is a respected American patriot with a solid background in leadership and management skills, a sorely needed criteria to bring a sense of civility to the Super Ferry debacle. One who was once a Commander of US. Pacific Command and CINCPAC Fleet, and added to this list various other commands in the Indian Ocean and Middle East tells me Admiral Fargo brings the kind of talent lacking at present. The notion that he brings a Republican flavor into this job is ludicrous.
Popeye

Mililani, HI

#13 Apr 26, 2008
Kimo wrote:
Admiral Fargo is a respected American patriot with a solid background in leadership and management skills, a sorely needed criteria to bring a sense of civility to the Super Ferry debacle. One who was once a Commander of US. Pacific Command and CINCPAC Fleet, and added to this list various other commands in the Indian Ocean and Middle East tells me Admiral Fargo brings the kind of talent lacking at present. The notion that he brings a Republican flavor into this job is ludicrous.
Not,flag waving, brain washed cabin boy.
Holy Smokes

Honolulu, HI

#14 Apr 26, 2008
Micky wrote:
Fargo is just some dumb old military **** with no successful business experience. Just because you spend 30 years sailing in the Navy dosen't make you qualified to run a large business.
Most ex military lifers are worthless in the civilian world because they lose control over people can't pull rank,no one cares if you were a general or a pee on.
Can't wait to see how the employees like working for some old military **** barking out orders.They will probably start the day saluting the flag and singing the national anthem.
I think your real name is Mickey Mouse. If you any clue about the high level of professionalism from both our Navy and Adm. Frago, you would not say these stupid things.

You are a fool who should keep you mouth shut so as not to show the world you are a fool.
MauiBrad

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Apr 26, 2008
"2000 in 4 days," if it is accurate,(Tig mentioned 1500 in 4 days a couple days ago) would be 250 per one-way and an estimated 80 vehicles per one-way. That would come close to covering fuel cost alone. Still far from breaking even. The vessel, with no fuel surcharge, needs to operate above 3/4th capacity to breakeven. The problem is the 4 jet engines burning too much fuel on long routes. Changing the CEO won't change that.

Aloha, Brad
Popeye

Mililani, HI

#16 Apr 26, 2008
Holy Smokes wrote:
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I think your real name is Mickey Mouse. If you any clue about the high level of professionalism from both our Navy and Adm. Frago, you would not say these stupid things.
You are a fool who should keep you mouth shut so as not to show the world you are a fool.
Another brainwashed flag waver.
Katy

Honolulu, HI

#17 Apr 26, 2008
There's a disconnect, I think, when we discuss this issue of the military ties to the Superferry.

Some will say that there is nothing mysterious about a civilian transport being built to support possible military use - after all, look at the highway system, the airlines, etc.

Others will argue that any intimation that the military has ties to the superferry is irresponsible conspiracy theorism.

While no one is more averse than I to conspiracy theorism, I do believe that there is more to the relationship than we are being told, and that it is important for the public to be informed. For example - is the Superferry going to be used to transport Stryker vehicles? What effect will that have on us?

Another disconnect is a paradigmal one: is the US military good, or not? I think that's the issue that underlies alot of this debate.

Those that believe that the US military is a benign institution whose sole aim to protect us and safeguard freedom and democracy tend to accept or dismiss the idea that the HSF has ties to military use.

Those of us who have a different reading on history and current events, and who see the US military as the enforcer of global imperialism - not serving to protect we the people but instead the interests of corporations and the elite who profit from them (through repressive action at home and abroad), are likely to be skeptical indeed about the military's connection with the Superferry.

All told, I think we need alot more information, and less blind speculation.

Those who are busy rooting out the information deserve our respect for doing that difficult work.

I also appreciate the questions skeptics are asking about the research these folks are doing - it's always important for us to be critical. However, I would appreciate it more if they were free from the frequently smarmy ad hominem asides normally attached to them.

And maybe it would be helpful for us all to keep in mind that our personal views on the military are driving this discussion - and that this fact is an absolutley valid and important aspect of the debate
Jimmy D

Mililani, HI

#18 Apr 26, 2008
Using the pricing on the SF site I got a price of $722.55 for a round trip to Maui for 2 adults,2 kids and the family car for a one day July trip.

Using Hawaiian and renting a car from Budget I can do the same trip for $ 538.99.Flight time 20 minutes vs three hours of puking.
Big Okole

Cape Charles, VA

#19 Apr 26, 2008
The superferry may not be breaking even but the ridership is growing and as the price of fuel keeps increasing the superferry looks like a more attractive alternative than the airlines.

The price of fuel affects both the superferry and airlines but it affects the airlines more.

What would you rather pay for a $79 airline ticket or a $49 superferry ticket. The superferry costs the same whether you but the ticket ahead of time or that day. You can't do that with the airlines.

Another market the superferry can exploit is the tourist market. For about $100 a tourist can go over to Maui and enjoy the sights, spend the day in Maui and come back in the evening and watch the sunset from the sea. The costs would be comparable to a catamaran boat ride in Waikiki or sunset dinner cruise. Where else can you get a 6 hour boat ride for that price.
stew

Winchester, KY

#20 Apr 26, 2008
It is great that the SuperFerry will be run by a military man with some brains...All the tree-hugging morons are crying again. Why don't you people move somewhere else like China where you protests will be appreciated. Stop ruining the fragile Hawaii economy with your dooms-day predictions. If you can't stand progress here, move away...I will take you to the airport!

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