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Lingle and Kim wage war of words over Liu

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#21
May 8, 2008
 
I say Liu should be disciplined, maybe even fired, but no need waste more money with an investigation. Maybe the AG can get three courses of action and choose the worst one!

The correct bidder was awarded in the end. Punish Liu quickly and move on.

Was Donna a hottie? Cool.
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#22
May 8, 2008
 
Kaneohe wrote:
The public should be aware of of the incident, but the story is being over blown. Although illegal, no harm was done. It could be a different story if H2 Energy LLC made significant campaign contributions to Lingle's campaign.
Some of the principals in H2 were, in fact, major supporters of the governor, as well as other Republicans nationally.
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#23
May 8, 2008
 
Wiggs wrote:
As usual with Kim and Hooser, it's all about politics. The only question is, who are the bigger idiots, Kim and Hooser or the voters who elected them?
Like I ALWAYS said...Hawaii voters are the fools that keep them in. That is why this state is so messed up...they do not want change...I give up in trying and that is why I left this state that I was born and raised in and never came back.
MATT-SAD DAY IN HAWAII
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#24
May 8, 2008
 
Aloha Aina wrote:
This is the same old Donna Kim doing the same old act she has been doing for 20 years!
Yes, it appears Mr. Liu made a major mistake. But, as I understand it, the mistake was reversed before it was implemented. This suggests to me that the "system" of checks and balances works.
Does it merit recall or severe reprimand? If he broke the law, it's up to the AG to bring charges. If it doesn't rise to formal charges, then I'm not so sure it warrants removal of Mr. Liu. I doubt he'll make the same mistake again.
Recall of the Governor? For what? Appointing someone who made a mistake? We all do that. Given how hard it is to find people to fill these high-profile, media and politician scrutinized positions, I am not surprised that we see mistakes being made. If we were to recall a Governor everytime one of her cabinet members made a mistake, we would have no government!
I think the Executive Branch is working just fine, thank you very much. The Legislature, on the other hand, could use some house cleaning.
Aloha Aina, I agree. But the people of Hawaii lack knowledge (mana'o they always preach)in politics and who they vote for. They have been brain washed over the years and live traditionally and vote Democrat. They voted for a Republican governor but yet they keep their legislative body in the crooked hands of the Democrats. I say to the people of Hawai.....
keep suffering........!!
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#25
May 8, 2008
 
Pay attention people. When the company which should have received the bid, LIngle/Liu cirlced the wagons and denied anything wrong had happened. When the procrument office ruled against Liu, they still denied they did anything wrong (they disagreed with the ruling). When the leg. started looking at it, Liu admitted he may have made some mistakes but said they had been corected (try he was forced to correct them). Now they are attacking the messnegers who have discovered that the staff covered up the evil acts. Did the staff spontenously decide to do this? Or were they ordered to?
This reeks of the superferry debacle.
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#26
May 8, 2008
 
Did Lingle ask the taxpayers of the state of Hawaii if she can use OUR money to buy Turtle Bay?

Unforunately, the days of being able to use the words honesty and politicians in the same sentence are gone forever.
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#27
May 8, 2008
 
Not a Lingle supporter but with what went on in the leg this year Kim should be held accountable too.
Politics. Just plain politics.
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#28
May 8, 2008
 
MATT-SAD DAY IN HAWAII wrote:
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Like I ALWAYS said...Hawaii voters are the fools that keep them in. That is why this state is so messed up...they do not want change...I give up in trying and that is why I left this state that I was born and raised in and never came back.
Hey Matt - Do you live in Nevada like it states on your profile? Great for you to get out of "corrupt" Hawaii, but I think your place of relocation needs to be reviewed.

Take a look at this website before you question the intelligence of Hawaii voters.

http://www.nevadacorruption.info/
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#29
May 8, 2008
 
It's sickening to watch the fiasco between Rep and Dem...FOR PETE'S SAKE GOVERN THE STATE AND STOP SCHOOL YARD WARS. The dems make me sick with their witch hunts, cheap shots and accusations. Not that the reps are perfect but it's so obviously one sided.

What a joke. but it's not funny because Kim is wasting time and money better spent on solving REAL problems here...like education, homeless and economy. Oh, but that would mean DOING THEIR JOB!! sorry, silly me!
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#30
May 8, 2008
 
ohdeargod wrote:
Kim states ----------> "That doesn't mean we're going to shirk our duties and oversight and not hold people accountable," she said. "I think the public is well aware of what we've uncovered."
seriously Ms. Kim --- I don't have a clue what you uncovered
but frankly, the Governor has 100 times the credibility that you can muster --- so you might have a few supporters in the peanut gallery --- but very little impact on the public
Gov. Lingle has tremendous support in this state --- and you
Why are you attacking Senator Kim for doing her constitutional duties as an elected Senator? I recall Governor Lingle calling for an end to the corrupt practices of those in elected offices saying that the government was filled with cronyism. Yet, her director of DBED&T tried to reward one of her cronies illegally with a state contract, perhaps because he and his wife contributed $12,000 to the Governor's campaign war chest. She and her administration is worst than those whom she accused seven years ago for improperly rewarding political cronies.

Senator Kim ought to be praised and encouraged to dig deeper into the wrongdoings of this administration rather than vilifying her with such slanderous name calling. My view of the Governor was once of respect and hope. She has been a real disappointment, not only in this case, but for the way she is running State government as though it was a PR firm.

The news media ought to do better in reporting on the "untold stories."
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#31
May 8, 2008
 
Kailuaresident wrote:
Pay attention people. When the company which should have received the bid, LIngle/Liu cirlced the wagons and denied anything wrong had happened. When the procrument office ruled against Liu, they still denied they did anything wrong (they disagreed with the ruling). When the leg. started looking at it, Liu admitted he may have made some mistakes but said they had been corected (try he was forced to correct them). Now they are attacking the messnegers who have discovered that the staff covered up the evil acts. Did the staff spontenously decide to do this? Or were they ordered to?
This reeks of the superferry debacle.
One should seek the real answer to the question: "Why did all of the key staff members involved suddenly decided to 'retire' just before the session started?" Surely, Senator Kim should be asked to find that smoking gun.
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#32
May 8, 2008
 
Our AG is like Gonzalez was for Bush - interested in serving Lingle, rather than enforcing the law.
Don't ever expect this AG to investigate or prosecute a friend of the governor. And just watch as the governor appoints her next round of judges from the AG's office.
I can't believe the republicans on this forum backing corruption - just because it comes from their side.
Corruption and favoritism are bad in government - always - even when the governor is republican.
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#33
May 8, 2008
 
Fire the bums.
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#34
May 8, 2008
 
Linda Lingle has called Kim's act a "witch hunt". This should not be a surprise as Kim has been a witch since she entered the public arena. Arrognat and full of herself, but she is getting old so let's give her some room...no let's not she is a fool. Fire up that broom.
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#35
May 8, 2008
 
you think the state is bad. Should check out the City, I hear its worse than ever.
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#36
May 8, 2008
 
Bobby wrote:
you think the state is bad. Should check out the City, I hear its worse than ever.
.........and we all know who is in charge of the city, Mr. Steel on Steel.
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#37
May 8, 2008
 
I love my country but fear my goverment. How sad
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#38
May 8, 2008
 
There seems to be more to this story than what was revealed. If Lingle is correct, then Kim appears to be incompetent and biased. If Kim is correct, then there are more chinks to Lingle's armor than the debacle involving bringing the Super Ferry to Hawaii. Strong words from both sides. It'll be interesting to see what happens with this.
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#39
May 8, 2008
 
WestSider wrote:
It's sickening to watch the fiasco between Rep and Dem...FOR PETE'S SAKE GOVERN THE STATE AND STOP SCHOOL YARD WARS. The dems make me sick with their witch hunts, cheap shots and accusations. Not that the reps are perfect but it's so obviously one sided.
What a joke. but it's not funny because Kim is wasting time and money better spent on solving REAL problems here...like education, homeless and economy. Oh, but that would mean DOING THEIR JOB!! sorry, silly me!
Uncovering abuse of power is always a good thing, whether it be Lingle or Mercado-Kim.
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#40
May 8, 2008
 
Boy! I am confused. Now, who is the witch and who is ****?
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