Bird slaughter: dogs attack again

[geeez]

Paul from Wisconsin wrote:

Is your island really that wild that you have packs of roaming dogs? Or, do you have irresponsible dog owners who let their dangerous animals loose? Or, do you have license and leash laws that are not enforced?

Paul ... there are primitive people here who let their dogs run loose because they expect someone else to take care of them then they call themselves responsible.

Leash and license laws are not enforced unless the law enforcement officals actually see them with their own eyes.

Unless some poor human is attacked, then the wheels start rolling. So in the meantime ...

[geeez]

tarhee wrote:

shoot dem dogs

Where's my gun?!

[animal expert]

Kak vashi dela. Zhencshiny, chtoby razdelit mne ochen ponravilas vasha. Govorite li vy po angliyski? Ya mechtayu vstretit kotoraya khochet lyubit i bit!!! Ochen rad chto u tebya ya tak silno skuchal pa tibe. Pazavite pazhalusta Olgu prashu stat mayey zshenoy. Ot vsey dushi pozdravlyayu kak ty sebya chuvstvuesh?

[geeez]

animal expert wrote:

Hindi ko poho alam. Hindi ko alam. Anong oras na po. Anong oras na. Saan po kayo papunta. Saan ka papunta. Saan po kayo galing. Saan ka galing? Ano po ang pangalan nila. Anong pangalan mo!!!

Hey ding ****! This ISN'T the Phillipines! That's the problem with these Flips .. show off, jealous people, only know how to take advantage, hoarders ... what more can I say?

[Jurasic Park]

Paul In Wiconsin
We had a school on lockdown yesterday beause of a dragon roaming the area.
Afterwards, all clear notes went home to parents.
TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE

[Hapa Hawaiian]

Get those two Filipino dudes out of jail that ate the other guys dog on the golf course, and have them hunt for their cell block!

[islandwarriorgir l]

Dogs are acting on their natural instincts. DLNR needs to quickly determine that these birds were killed by dogs and trap them dogs. They sound like strays. This shouldn't take another year to figure out what to do. DLNR-Don't procrastinate! Golf course owner, how come your'e not watching your property? Wild dogs roaming your course? Well, Pali has lots of chickens on theirs. Landowners, take care of your property or don't buy them up, leave em for us!

[Your Neighbor]

One more really loooong fence going up at the beach. Watch. But, the birds are very important to local people because they are needed to find fish out at sea, not simply something nice to look at.

[Bounty Hunter]

mookane wrote:

DLNR should Shoot or poison those dogs, they are strays and shouldn't be roaming free. For all you dog lovers, if you're whining about it, go catch all of them and chain em up in your yard as your pets! Yea, I thought so... DLNR, Shoot them or poison them !

You're absolutely right!!! I have another idea: instead of shooting or poisoning them which only draws outcries from dog owners, DLNR should put a bounty on any unleashed dog at the golf course. Bounty hunters can stake the golf course at night, set up bird decoys and shoot the attacking dogs with tranquilizer darts then turn the dogs over to the Hawaiian Humane Society. If the dog owner does not bail out his or her pet within a week, the dog is euphanized, and the bounty hunter is reimbursed the $500 bounty by the golf course. No more marauding dogs!!!

[cnn]

Kill these dogs. Next time, these dogs will attack a golfer or maybe even a child.

Dogs are non-native. The Hawaiians brought them to Hawaii, just like how the Westerners brought cattle. The Hawaiians ate dogs - they were prized food - reserved for royalty. Many different ethnic groups eat dogs - Chinese, Filipinos, Koreans, etc. We should start eating them too. What's the difference between eating a dog, a pig, cow, goat, chicken, or frog??

The Shearwaters are NATIVE. They were probably here in Hawaii even before the Native Hawaiians. We have an obligation to protect these birds.

[Paniolo]

SHOOT THE DOGS.

[animal expert]

I completely agree that the Superferry needs to float on the water rather than fly like a bird.

[God Dam the Pusher Man]

Plenty people from all over responding. Sad the birds died from some running wild dogs. This story sure makes the news, but when there are drug dealers selling ice all over the island and they are respondsible for 80% of all the crimes on the island, not too many people care about them. "The birds, the poor birds" What about the poor people suffering from these ICE DEALERS?

[animal expert]

Treat the dogs with foregiveness.........for they thow chow no not know what they don't know. To know is to know. To not know is to not know as Confusious would have said in his infinite words of wisdom.........therefore, the moral of my passage, is that no not know and do not know that not know.

[wahine luahine]

Aloha Aina wrote:

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That's a legitimate question, Paul. Kahuku is a very small residential community, but a very large agricultural subdivision is just south of the town. It contains over a dozen truck farms. Those farms are plagued with theft and the farmers are forced to do whatever they can to protect their crops. A lot of them use dogs to guard their corps. Interestingly, when you tour this area, you see that a lot of the dogs are mixed breed char-pei. Char-pei (the chinese dog with all the wrinkles) are pretty aggressive. As most of the farmers don't live on the farms, care for the dogs is minimal. It is quite common for some to get loose, creating a feral dog population in the area. These feral dogs are responsible for the killings at the nearby golf course.

Mahalo for this background info!

These details are very interesting and important to know. It is too bad that the reporter did not run a parallel article about the farmers and how this complex issue is a problem for all of Kahuku.

I know there have been stories about the problems the farmers have been having with theft. They are really struggling to live off the land up there. And -- wasn't there even a shooting up there over theft?!

This is not a simple story of dead birds (protected birds at that!)- nor of irresponsible dog owners. The newspaper should have done a better job on this one.

The photo is dramatic and sad. The public deserves more than titilation.

[Stream]

Yeah, right. Killed by a pack of wild dogs? Are these birds flightless? Were they caught off guard, sleeping, by a wild pack of at least 50 dogs? And these wild dogs are killing for fun and not for food? And what? About 40 birds were found in the same condition in the same location about a year ago? There are some serious questions that need to be answered. Sounds more like a cover up to me. Puncture wounds can be applied after the fact.

[Spirit of 76]

wahine luahine wrote:

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Mahalo for this background info!
These details are very interesting and important to know.

You're welcome. It constantly interests me to watch these blogs and see how many people are willing to comment on stories without really knowing any of the facts. They assume the information in the story is accurate and complete, and often, it is not. With the advent of the internet and blogging, journalists are under increasing pressure to produce. They get their information from the internet rather than the good old fashion way...research and interview. And because of the internet, and the demand for "instant" information that it has created, they have less and less time to devote to a story. So what we get is a fast-write designed to attract our attention...nothing more.

Blogging has become a very useful tool for getting to the truth, but as you can see, 95% of it is taken up by people who, A. think they are funny or cute, B. just want to be heard, C. are angry and frustrated and have no other means available to vent, or D. want to see themselves in print.

[Spirit of 76]

Stream wrote:

Yeah, right. Killed by a pack of wild dogs? Are these birds flightless? Were they caught off guard, sleeping, by a wild pack of at least 50 dogs? And these wild dogs are killing for fun and not for food? And what? About 40 birds were found in the same condition in the same location about a year ago? There are some serious questions that need to be answered. Sounds more like a cover up to me. Puncture wounds can be applied after the fact.

There is no conspiracy here, my friend. Shearwaters are ground nesting. If frightened, they don't take off, they hunker down and hide. This behaviorial trait makes them easy prey for dogs.

[mobettaIbrokeufa ce]

mokebla wrote:

With all the filipino in Kahuku, they still have lose dogs. I guess they discovered shrimp and got tired of dog meat. I guess they should tell them guys in moanaloa that they got dogs at Kahuku golf course, it free!

Eh, moke..what's your mouth ah! Don't make fun of my filipino friends. Before they flip you over! Why I even wasting my time with you, you undeducated MOKE! Stop Barking you DOG! This is a BIG Samoan, Hawaiian who happens to have great filipino friends.

[mokebla]

God Dam the Pusher Man wrote:

Plenty people from all over responding. Sad the birds died from some running wild dogs. This story sure makes the news, but when there are drug dealers selling ice all over the island and they are respondsible for 80% of all the crimes on the island, not too many people care about them. "The birds, the poor birds" What about the poor people suffering from these ICE DEALERS?

Brah, how one going listen to you? God's last name isn't Damm, get a grip! Maybe, He might just might address your complaint if you get his name right.