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Rell: Police Racism Intolerable -- Courant.com

There are 95 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Jul 20, 2007, titled Rell: Police Racism Intolerable -- Courant.com. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

As local NAACP officials requested a federal investigation into complaints of racial discrimination within the state police, Gov.

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Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Brewster, NY

#50 Jul 20, 2007
NY Opinion wrote:
What the impact is down the road.? CSP and the State of Connecticut are at the street corner of Matthews and Crumbie. Less lawyers more doctors. Welcome to generation Y (Why?).
Connecticut state police can't muzzle troopers
By The Associated Press
10.05.04
Editor's note: The Associated Press reported on March 3, 2006, that the state of Connecticut had agreed to a $450,000 out-of-court settlement with Trooper Mark Lauretano of Salisbury, ending a First Amendment case that began in 1999.
HARTFORD, Conn. A state police policy restricting troopers from talking to the news media is unconstitutional, a federal judge has ruled.
U.S. District Judge Dominic J. Squatrito ruled on Oct. 1 that the agency's administrative and operations manual violates a trooper's constitutional right to free speech. He forbade state police from preventing employees from speaking on matters of public concern.
"When you take an oath of office to become a state trooper, you do not give up your constitutional rights, especially the right to free speech," state police union President David LeBlanc said after the ruling. "What the impact will be down the road is that all police officers will feel more at ease to speak out as citizens."
State Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, whose office defended state police administrators in the case, said the decision would be reviewed "carefully and comprehensively to determine whether an appeal is appropriate."
Whatever. Police are required under the freedom of information act to surrender any information, as long as it's not under investigation, among other restrictions. Of course, the overlord police and attny. general don't see that as convienient, or maybe a roadblock to their little agendas. Nazis.
John B

Greenfield, MA

#51 Jul 20, 2007
Steve wrote:
I love it when people credit the police and military for our freedom. I'm going to thank an activist since they're the ones whose hard work gives us the liberties we enjoy. Voting and the 40-hour work week are two examples, and there are plenty others that we're slowly loosing thanks to fearmongering and neoconservative ideology.
All backwards, as any respectable liberal loony will reach for.

"Activists" ... got us the vote? I thought that was in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

Marching up and down a street is not quite the same as sitting in a foxhole getting shot at. Most of your "activists" are draft-dodging jerks (ala Bill Clinton) who choose to run when liberties are threatened.

Get a life - go to Havana.(And, um, could you take Hillary with you?)

John B

Greenfield, MA

#52 Jul 20, 2007
Steve wrote:
I'd like to hear what an expert on institutionalized racism has to say about this. Surely there are some social scientits who've studied it. Below I pasted a couple links to people who know a lot more about racism than probably any of us here.
http://sociweb.tamu.edu/faculty/feagin/
http://fds.duke.edu/db/aas/Sociology/faculty/...
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/intro.htm
http://www.timwise.org/ (his book "White Like Me" is an easy read and does a great job at describing the everyday benefits of being white. But you have to be open enough to give it an honest read)
That is some great, tired old liberal BS there Steve. You need to get out more. Dinner in Hartford? On me ....

Since: Jul 07

Storrs

#54 Jul 20, 2007
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>
Judged on the content of one's character, not on the color of one's skin is cetainly the goal. So we are both on the same page in regards to hiring on merit - not sympathy. This notion that one can educate himself and get hired by a prospective employer is ideal. But what happens when there isn't a level playing field? When the employer has a history and a strong track record of overlooking one's preparation and education? Although one is qualified for the job, What about when the employer overlooks the "qualified" candidate and/or gives the job to another who looks just like the employer, but is less qualified? Come on, this happens all the time... 1 in 60 is very telling. Institutional Racism does exist in CSP! Wake up and smell the coffee!
break out the violins!

If you know for a fact that individuals are being passed up for a job due to their skin color, then that is racism. However I, unlike you, am not presumptious enough to think I have the qualifications of prospective CSP hires in front of me. Apparently you have some inside info. By your agenda-driven logic, the NBA is racist!(Oh wait, it's a one-way street?) A group that makes up 12% of the population makes up close to 90% of the NBA (millionaires all). Is this racism, or do blacks happen to be better at basketball than whites, on average (for whatever reason)? Please, don't embarrass yourself with another cookie-cutter response; some thinking first please.

Since: Jul 07

Storrs

#55 Jul 20, 2007
John B wrote:
<quoted text>
The Courant doesn't "report". It opinionates.
I can't argue with you on that.

Since: Jul 07

Storrs

#56 Jul 20, 2007
mike wrote:
<quoted text>most of us who are NOT racist do not really care about such a superficial matter , is what you wrote,then you slam people for political beliefs.Typical two faced con.
Au contraire, mon ami... political and/or philosophical disagreements are decidely NOT superficial!(unlike skin color). Typical name-calling unenlightened lib!
2Wheels

Morris, CT

#57 Jul 21, 2007
John B wrote:
<quoted text>
Sunday:
..snip..

Racism used to be an ingrained, continuous pattern of hatred towards a group different from oneself.
Bigotry, without cause.
Today, the reality of white racism is that of fear.
Fear, with great cause.
Very well put John B.
Used_Up

Niantic, CT

#58 Jul 21, 2007
You know there is a simple solution to this. I know Rell/Moody won't approve because it will limit their ability to hand out plums.

2 thoughts. The legislature must pass legislation installing a civilian review and oversight board to manage CSP. Many states have this to limit political influence on the day to day operations. This board could be used to review disciplany actions and oversee appointments to top command staff.

Like other states aslo do, implement an indpendent board made up of professionals from state police outside of CT to interciew, rank and reccomend candidates for pormotion to the rank of lieutenant to lt. colonel.

Since the beginning of time government decisions have been political. Rowland raised the bar on this practice. Moody/Rell have perfected it.

Since this is the only they understand and in the interest of fair play prthaps it would be useful to send your fat jokes to [email protected] and [email protected]
Justice Seeker

Windsor, CT

#59 Jul 21, 2007
Rell is just another career politian, she isn't gunna do squat. Just like the rest of them, all talk and no action.
She is starting to make Rowland look better everyday, and he's a lying, stealing useless piece of human waste.
COUNT WALKER

AOL

#60 Jul 21, 2007
if rell is so concerned,why dont she step back and let the feds investigate? glad the hartford police chief didnt let those racists state police patrol hartford streets!
John B

Greenfield, MA

#63 Jul 22, 2007
Steven_G_Erickson wrote:
I called Rell's office Monday after having sent a letter.
A staffer told me that the Governor's office is unwilling to help citizens with complaints about police and judicial corruption and misconduct?
That is an outright lie and you know it Steven.

What's the "staffer's name?

The Governor's Office will accept complaints about any judicial or public-safety branch of CT government and then, due to it's nature, pass it on to the oproper investigatory agency, or act on it themselves.

I'm sure everyone on here, no matter what their position on Rell, the State, Cops, etc., know that a complaint from a reasonable, literate, concerned citizen will produce a response, even if it may not be what the observer wants to hear. But there will be a response.

Because of the fact that from your multitude of idiotic, self-serving posts, are not credible by any stretch, I would hazard a guess that 1). the Governor knew you and ignored it, or 2). it was so filled with inconsistencies and just plain BS, they tossed it. Both reasonable actions.

But, knowing you and your motives, I can assure you that your name, most likely unsigned, will be on a "list" of people to watch out for because of instability and potential threat.

You're not that close to "losing it" yet are you Steven? let me know, maybe I can get you some help.

_______

Awaiting staffers name so I can turn him in.
John B

Greenfield, MA

#64 Jul 22, 2007
Used_Up wrote:
You know there is a simple solution to this. I know Rell/Moody won't approve because it will limit their ability to hand out plums.
2 thoughts. The legislature must pass legislation installing a civilian review and oversight board to manage CSP. Many states have this to limit political influence on the day to day operations. This board could be used to review disciplany actions and oversee appointments to top command staff.
Like other states aslo do, implement an indpendent board made up of professionals from state police outside of CT to interciew, rank and reccomend candidates for pormotion to the rank of lieutenant to lt. colonel.
Since the beginning of time government decisions have been political. Rowland raised the bar on this practice. Moody/Rell have perfected it.
Since this is the only they understand and in the interest of fair play prthaps it would be useful to send your fat jokes to [email protected] and [email protected]
How is it that you can make a rational, sensible argument for a Review Board on the one hand, and then go ahead and ruin it by resorting to calling names?

Most liberals have no solution for anything and just sit back and call people names. You have done both.

I.E., Oklahome tornado destroys town. lets shore up tornado safety while recognizing George Bush made the tornado happen."

I'm waiting for a dem to accuse Bush of Nicole Simpson's murder, after which there will be a filibuster to gather votes by offering the Seanator from Kansas access to ocean beaches.
Not Surprised

United States

#66 Jul 23, 2007
JOHN B (DOES THE 'B' STAND FOR BIRDBRAIN?
"The Governor's Office will accept complaints about any judicial or public-safety branch of CT government and then, due to it's nature, pass it on to the oproper investigatory agency, or act on it

I'm sure everyone on here, no matter what their position on Rell, the State, Cops, etc., know that a complaint from a reasonable, literate, concerned citizen will produce a response, even if it may not be what the observer wants to hear. But there will be a response"

Yes..and the pat response is "Get a Lawyer" whether you call the governor's office or the attorney general's office..you do not seem to understand the depth and spanse of corruption in Connecticut. Steven G Erickson is just one of the more verbal victims and unfortunately if you have not had your family destroyed by these pompous posteriors than you have no right to criticize people like Steven...what he writes is sometimes hard to believe but the unfortunate truth is he is right 95% of the time. Judge Foley in Danielson is one of the few to speak up on behalf of a victim of our judicial system lately but hundreds of thousands have passed through our "judicial system" at the hands of lying worthless scumbags that prevail because they are employees of the state or have the power and consistantly abuse it at the cost of destroying families in the State of CT...this is being done daily and the state of CT does more "people trafficing" than any underground group could ever hope to accomplish. People...listen to the man, Steven G Erickson is trying to tell you to protect yourself and family because with the blink of an eye and the bang of a gavel...your family could be next.
John B

Greenfield, MA

#67 Jul 24, 2007
Not Surprised wrote:
JOHN B (DOES THE 'B' STAND FOR BIRDBRAIN?
"The Governor's Office will accept complaints about any judicial or public-safety branch of CT government and then, due to it's nature, pass it on to the oproper investigatory agency, or act on it
I'm sure everyone on here, no matter what their position on Rell, the State, Cops, etc., know that a complaint from a reasonable, literate, concerned citizen will produce a response, even if it may not be what the observer wants to hear. But there will be a response"
Yes..and the pat response is "Get a Lawyer" whether you call the governor's office or the attorney general's office..you do not seem to understand the depth and spanse of corruption in Connecticut. Steven G Erickson is just one of the more verbal victims and unfortunately if you have not had your family destroyed by these pompous posteriors than you have no right to criticize people like Steven...what he writes is sometimes hard to believe but the unfortunate truth is he is right 95% of the time. Judge Foley in Danielson is one of the few to speak up on behalf of a victim of our judicial system lately but hundreds of thousands have passed through our "judicial system" at the hands of lying worthless scumbags that prevail because they are employees of the state or have the power and consistantly abuse it at the cost of destroying families in the State of CT...this is being done daily and the state of CT does more "people trafficing" than any underground group could ever hope to accomplish. People...listen to the man, Steven G Erickson is trying to tell you to protect yourself and family because with the blink of an eye and the bang of a gavel...your family could be next.
Once you resort to the name-calling ("birdbrain"), I stop reading. Might have had some cogent ideas in your comment, but the first line made them all moot while making you a person to ignore.

No need to respond because I have no interest.
Supreme Wisdom

Hartford, CT

#68 Jul 24, 2007
John B wrote:
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Once you resort to the name-calling ("birdbrain"), I stop reading. Might have had some cogent ideas in your comment, but the first line made them all moot while making you a person to ignore.
No need to respond because I have no interest.
John B= The cowardly clown.
John B

Greenfield, MA

#69 Jul 24, 2007
Supreme Wisdom wrote:
<quoted text>
John B= The cowardly clown.
Are you referring to me, or Not Surprised?

“Water calm~No alligators?”

Since: May 07

Far Away from You

#70 Jul 24, 2007
Did anyone expect Rell to say anything different? I didn't.

“Water calm~No alligators?”

Since: May 07

Far Away from You

#71 Jul 24, 2007
Unbelievable wrote:
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It truly amazes me at how people think racism does not exist in this country. No, there is no more breaking into black peoples homes and dragging them out of their beds and lynching them. Spitting in their faces "just because", and separate drinking fountains, etc. But it does exist. I see it on a daily basis in the environment that I work in. What's that saying? "It's the little things stupid!" I recently had a guy at my job ask me, "Why do black people do..." My response to him was, "Who do I look like, Al Sharpton?" I don't speak for the masses. Other comments like, "I'm going down on Albany Ave so I can be in da hood." Trying to do that "black walk". Most of the people I'm quite sure did not grow up where they were the "minority". I've had people (in my workplace), as soon as they meet me, are like, "What part of Hartford are you from?" I chalked it up to them being ignorant. I had men report to my supervisor that I intimidated them (and I'm a short woman, 4'11"). HOW??? People, that's just how it is: It starts from the top down.
It's those little things like you stated that helps to perpetuate racism. I think most white people are not even aware that they are being racist. It's no different than them going to the toilet. It's inherent.
TRUTH

Auburn Hills, MI

#72 Jul 24, 2007
Just Tired wrote:
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It's those little things like you stated that helps to perpetuate racism. I think most white people are not even aware that they are being racist. It's no different than them going to the toilet. It's inherent.
Re-read your post....then look in the mirror.

“Water calm~No alligators?”

Since: May 07

Far Away from You

#73 Jul 24, 2007
TRUTH wrote:
<quoted text>
Re-read your post....then look in the mirror.
Aww poor truth. I think you missed me. You didn't do any posts while I was gone. Poor lil' truth.

Let me get my fly swatter!

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