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There are 20 comments on the Hartford Courant story from May 17, 2007, titled Connecticut News - State, National and Local News from The Hart.... In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

The state of Connecticut spent two years investigating before it won a speedy conviction of Julie Amero - the infamous Norwich porn teacher - this January.

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Officer Unfriendly

United States

#1 May 18, 2007
The prosecutor is corrupt.
Fedup

Glastonbury, CT

#2 May 18, 2007
Norwich should change its name to Salem!!
Sue

South Windsor, CT

#3 May 18, 2007
Prosecutor needs to go - no excuse, he's not ignorant, obviously overzealous to the point that a win matters more than the facts.
stan

Wolf Point, MT

#4 May 18, 2007
The Judge, District officials from the School Board Chairperson, the IT Director "computer expert," the Principal on down, the Prosecutor, Norwich detective "computer expert," and everyone connected with this prosecution are attempting and will do anything to avoid being sued for everything they own. If they throw out the verdict they get sued, if they sentence her to someting there will be an appeal and then they will be sued. Lets clear Mrs. Julie Amero in this travesty and get the civil trials on the road.
Lou

Newington, CT

#6 May 18, 2007
As an IT professional who has watched this case almost from the beginning, there can be only one way for this case to be resolved: All charges against Julie Amero should be dropped, the town of Norwich should apologize for its bungling of the case, and monetary compensation should be offered by the town of Norwich and/or the State of Connecticut to Ms. Amero and her family for the pain and suffering she endured during this case.
Free Julie

Stonington, CT

#7 May 18, 2007
This case is also due to the "grumpy old men" or town elders that are too stubborn in their ways and beliefs to accept reality, and then get the unwitting voters and taxpayers into trouble. In other words, the only reason for this case is someone on the school board or administration pushed it. They had and idea to hang Julie, they were just to proud of their idea, they had too big an ego to let it drop, and they could never admit they were wrong.

The same thing happened down the road at the Town of Montville which had a simple contract to supply water to Rand-Whitney Containerboard Company, didn't supply clean water, got sued by Rand-Whitney, and big surprise, lost! Now Montville citizens owe the company $15 million!

I'm sure if you looked, there are hundreds of examples of Julie Amero and Montville vs. Rand-Whitney all over CT, which is why the smart people are leaving, and taking the good companies and the good jobs with them.

When will the voters and taxpayers wake up and get rid of the people that constantly get us into these messes?

I hope Julie gets the vindication and the compensation she deserves, and the real culprits pay for it with their own lost careers.
pwils

Waterbury, CT

#8 May 18, 2007
Thank you for this outstanding article. Now if you could only get more people to read it in the Norwich area so that they would know the real story surrounding this case it would be wonderful. Many of us in the area have posted links to it....

Hopefully this will be a wakeup call to anyone who has a computer. It could be you next, no one knows really what may be lurking on their hard drive.........the people who make this malicious software are experts in doing this, and no one is going after them. And that, is the big problem..........
Sorry

Munich, Germany

#9 May 18, 2007
STORY:
"The evidence is very strong, very clear-cut, that the defendant was the only person that had access to that computer," Smith said in his closing argument. The pop-ups argument, he told judge and jury, was ridiculous.
"It's very clear that that just didn't happen," Smith concluded.
Smith didn't tell the jury that he had been harassing the defense attorney and calling the defense attorney's office. We know this for a fact.
STORY:
"Smith even objected to evidence that a key witness wanted to present that would have shown that Amero was a victim of "spyware" and pornographic "pop-up" ads bombarding the computer."
This was a scam between Smith and the defense attorney. The prosecutor coerced him into this.
Claims were that Smith agreed to allow this evidence in a phone conversation prior to the trial, but mysteriously he decided to object to it in court.
"STORY:
"He was careful to repeat the lurid names of the websites and to project the dirty pictures on a large screen for the court to see. These were images that never popped up in the classroom, but the state was too busy to bother with this detail."
Then what you are saying is David Smith fabricated physical evidence and lied to the jury?
STORY:
"The state has not completed a full examination of all the issues which may affect its position at the sentence hearing."
They will never do the right thing.
Have they ever fully examined any of the issues?
I have heard a few defense attorneys say that David Smith is a smart man and a brilliant prosecutor. I might have to agree in some ways.
I guess if Mr. Smith harasses a 63 year old elderly defense attorney, with a neurological disease like "Multiple Sclerosis" into losing a few cases, then he might be brilliant.
If he can coerce defendants into plea bargains when there is no actual evidence, then I guess he is brilliant.
If he can get a judge that is asleep at the bench, then that might be brilliant.
If he gets promoted after his criminal activities, then it is pure brilliance.
It is brilliantly corrupt!
I guess if Mr. Smith is not intelligent enough to dazzle the jury with his brilliance, then he offers a plea bargain to win the case. However, I didn't know that plea bargains were considered winning. If the defendant suffers from a sudden and brilliant attack of intelligence, and demands his day in court, Dave Smith is then left to dazzle the jury with his brilliance, and when it is discovered that he can't dazzle the jury with his brilliance, he will baffle them with his bull****.
The Dept. of Justice should be investigating this case. When this case is properly investigated, I'm sure you will find out that what I am saying is pure fact.
Sorry

Munich, Germany

#10 May 18, 2007
Sorry for the double post, my dial up is slow.
Maura

Brooklyn, NY

#11 May 19, 2007
Thank you for the best overall article I have read on this case in a major daily in Connecticut. I wish everyone in Norwich would read it, since there are still a lot of people (including folks at the Norwich Bulletin, apparently) who really think a married, pregnant, 40 year old substitute teacher was purposefully surfing pornography while she taught a classroom of 7th graders. It's preposterous.

What is more tragic is the personal cost this has exacted on Ms. Amero. She and her husband had been trying for years to get pregnant through infertility treatments, and they finally were successful in the fall that this incident occurred. After her arrest and subsequent trauma, Ms. Amero miscarried.

Add to that the fact that the special education degree that she studied for for years is useless with four felony convictions on her record.

Add to that that she hasn't been able to work all this time.

The financial, emotional, and physical costs of this ordeal are enormous.

I'm not the litigious type, but for once I'm rooting that Ms. Amero will sue and win BIG. This story has been a cross between the Salem Witch Trials and the Keystone Cops from the beginning...which would be funny if it weren't so dangerous, tragic, and unjust.

Thanks for the great story.
Ogman

Reading, PA

#12 May 19, 2007
I'm getting a little tired of the delayed justice in this case. It's obvious that justice has NOT been served and that the state made a mess of this situation. If I were Julie Amero, I would simply demand immediate sentencing and show the mockery of justice that the stae has created in Appeals Court. The longer this drags on, the worse the State of Connecticutt looks.
Merja Lehtinen

Columbia, CT

#13 May 19, 2007
The truth can always be reconstructed; lies cannot. Let us all hope and pray that everyone is trying to seek the truth and Julie will be exonerated. We still live in a terrific country where justice will prevail, even if it exhausts everyone trying to uphold our priceless legacy of democracy and fairness. God speed to everyone.
raider

Eddington, ME

#14 May 19, 2007
State's attorneys like Smith, who are looking to become judges or what ever it is that the political machine has to offer, don't give a damn about justice, fairness or honesty, even sending an innocent person to jail for life, does not bother them.Let Smith go after the I-84 scandal in the Dibella deals..
Franco

United States

#15 May 20, 2007
Sorry wrote:
STORY:
"The evidence is very strong, very clear-cut, that the defendant was the only person that had access to that computer," Smith said in his closing argument. The pop-ups argument, he told judge and jury, was ridiculous.
"It's very clear that that just didn't happen," Smith concluded.
Smith didn't tell the jury that he had been harassing the defense attorney and calling the defense attorney's office. We know this for a fact.
STORY:
"Smith even objected to evidence that a key witness wanted to present that would have shown that Amero was a victim of "spyware" and pornographic "pop-up" ads bombarding the computer."
This was a scam between Smith and the defense attorney. The prosecutor coerced him into this.
Claims were that Smith agreed to allow this evidence in a phone conversation prior to the trial, but mysteriously he decided to object to it in court.
"STORY:
"He was careful to repeat the lurid names of the websites and to project the dirty pictures on a large screen for the court to see. These were images that never popped up in the classroom, but the state was too busy to bother with this detail."
Then what you are saying is David Smith fabricated physical evidence and lied to the jury?
STORY:
"The state has not completed a full examination of all the issues which may affect its position at the sentence hearing."
They will never do the right thing.
Have they ever fully examined any of the issues?
I have heard a few defense attorneys say that David Smith is a smart man and a brilliant prosecutor. I might have to agree in some ways.
I guess if Mr. Smith harasses a 63 year old elderly defense attorney, with a neurological disease like "Multiple Sclerosis" into losing a few cases, then he might be brilliant.
If he can coerce defendants into plea bargains when there is no actual evidence, then I guess he is brilliant.
If he can get a judge that is asleep at the bench, then that might be brilliant.
If he gets promoted after his criminal activities, then it is pure brilliance.
It is brilliantly corrupt!
I guess if Mr. Smith is not intelligent enough to dazzle the jury with his brilliance, then he offers a plea bargain to win the case. However, I didn't know that plea bargains were considered winning. If the defendant suffers from a sudden and brilliant attack of intelligence, and demands his day in court, Dave Smith is then left to dazzle the jury with his brilliance, and when it is discovered that he can't dazzle the jury with his brilliance, he will baffle them with his bull****.
The Dept. of Justice should be investigating this case. When this case is properly investigated, I'm sure you will find out that what I am saying is pure fact.
Let me see if I'm understanding this.
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You are saying that the defense attorney is elderly with a neurological disease?

The prosecutor harassed this attorney into losing the case?

The prosecutor lied to a jury?

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This explains why almost every client is railroaded.

Every case that goes to trial with this defense attorney and prosecutor usually results in a conviction.
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Why is this 63-year-old attorney still practicing law if he has Multiple Sclerosis?

Multiple Sclerosis causes impaired thinking. In most cases this means slowed thinking, decreased concentration, or decreased memory.

The BAR association needs to revoke his law license.
Outraged

Newington, CT

#16 May 20, 2007
So prosecutor David A. Smith is going to New London where he can prosecute more “serious crimes” Good God, I wouldn’t want him prosecuting a jaywalking charge. What’s next…Strackbein for Chief Justice? Or perhaps Lounsbury could head the State Police. I’m sure his incompetence would fit right in. Fain and Aubin could get high paying, appointed position in the state Department of Education. If any of these people think they have done a service to the people of this state who pay their exhorborant salaries, they are delusional and/or just stupid. Their performances are all self serving and pathetic. Ah well…what does one expect from a state government run by Lisa Moody. Connecticut…what an embarrassment…
Dave Kahn

London, UK

#17 May 21, 2007
I'd like to thank Rick Green and The Courant for this article which gives a clear exposition of the case. The almost unbelievable hounding of Julie Amero for being the victim of a pop-up cascade has been a total disgrace. Sadly the police's expert is nothing of the kind. He's just a guy who's been on a couple of training courses, and he probably has less understanding of security issues than the average 12 year old geek. His analysis of the computer was evidentially flawed to start with, and he made plainly incorrect statements to a technically naive jury. There's an old saying that an expert is simply someone who knows a little bit more than the people he's talking too, and this case illustrates this perfectly. For legal reasons the defence was not allowed to put its own (genuine) expert witness on the stand.

Every computer programmer who has read the story knows exactly what happened. The only "crime" Julie committed was not to be daring enough to pull the plug on the computer, but then she had been specifically told not to turn the computer off. She even went for help from the regular teaching staff during a break. It's almost beyond belief that anyone could be stupid enough to believe a female teacher would be surfing the Net all day for (tiny) pop-up images of pornography let alone launch what was clearly a malicious prosecution.

Whether a potential 40 year sentence is suitable for letting 4 children momentarily glimpse indecent images, and whether they were really endangered, is whole other issue that could do with some exploration.
Rumor

United States

#18 May 21, 2007
I heard the prosecution may offer Julie Amero another plea deal or give a new trial.

Since: Feb 07

Newington, CT

#19 May 21, 2007
Rumor wrote:
I heard the prosecution may offer Julie Amero another plea deal or give a new trial.
Yes. Seems that is a whole slew of problems that the general public knew about from day one, but the prosecuters just figured out now. So sentencing has been delayed, yet again.
Brian

UK

#21 May 25, 2007
Over on this side of the Atlantic we are mounting a class action against the UK police for the corruption employed in Operation Ore, the UK offspring of Landslide, in which thousands of innocent families were ruined over here. The thousands of names of so-called credit card users, fabricated US evidence, and ludicrous 'expert witness' statements were handed by the FBI to the British police who then used their own expert witnesses to destroy men and ruin their families. A large number of suicides resulted. Now the class action team has uncovered massive credit card fraud ignored by the US and UK police. The parallels with this case are outstanding. The contact for the class action is [email protected]/.
Brian
Atul of Ca

Glendale, CA

#22 Jun 6, 2007
I just came across this story. I very much hope that Amero is exonerated. Everything about this case (that I have read so far) is so absurd and far from common sense.
First its very unlikely that amero intentionally went to this website. It just doesn't happen, and lets say she did, perhaps by mistake.
Did she commit a crime? What is the "risk of injury" crime.
How many of you would like to wager, that those children had seen porn prior to that day? Its a simple truth and fact, kids are curious, but incredibly resilient. Did this event cause injury or truly endanger the children. I believe not.
How is it that expert testimony was not allowed in the trial? I have a hard time understanding how she got convicted in the first place and how anyone believes this individual should goto jail for 40 years let alone 1 day.
What about the kids? She was frustrated, but how many of those kids knew it was "wrong" to see it and how many of them were computer literate and could have suggested pulling the plug or turning off the monitor.
2 thoughts.
1. We live in a great society, but at times like this its a shameful society.
2. Lets give our kids credit for who they are, strong, resilient, and curious. But also able to decide and be responsible for right and wrong.
What happen to common sense? What happen to us all helping each other over come these issues instead of giving over to mob mentality.
Good luck Amero, and I'm sorry this happened to you.

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