Court Looks At Internet Limits

Court Looks At Internet Limits

There are 123 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Mar 5, 2008, titled Court Looks At Internet Limits. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Avery Doninger, the 17-year-old high school senior at the center of the case, sat in the front row as a three-judge panel of the U.S. 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals lobbed questions at the attorneys.

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traveler

Brookfield, CT

#1 Mar 5, 2008
Schools have become the breeding grounds to squash free speech and to control there environments to there liking, such as stoppping some political clubs from meeting on campus stopping military recruiters and telling students how to vote at elections and yet they have there hands out to the goverment for hand outs.
ct resident

Newington, CT

#3 Mar 5, 2008
Calling people vulgar names should never be accepted. If she called a black person the n word would it have gone this far.
Bush

United States

#4 Mar 5, 2008
Thanks to Bush, this is why we including our native born American Children cannot say what they are feeling.

Our Rights Were Taken Away.
SGT

Newington, CT

#5 Mar 5, 2008
I guess they let Steven back in the prison library.
Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Brewster, NY

#6 Mar 5, 2008
Bush wrote:
Thanks to Bush, this is why we including our native born American Children cannot say what they are feeling.
Our Rights Were Taken Away.
You're kidding, right? Your precious Connecticut DEMOCRATIC legislature has taken away more of your rights than the last four presidential administrations combined. Hate to break it to you.
advocate

Niles, MI

#7 Mar 5, 2008
Steven in VT: Sounds like you too got your name on "The List". Your experience is a CLASSIC. You are not alone as many CT citizens who speak out and/or file lawsuits for improprieties in government only to find your life and the lives of you loved ones ruined by false arrests, bumped up charges, HUGE bail bonds, costly defense trials, loss of employment/business, blacklisted from your prefession, financial ruin, mental torment, resulting in family stressors, etc. These gov't entities have unlimited tax dollars, power they can and do abuse then hide behind their "soverien immunity clauses". If you are a mere citizen and not "a journalist" you are left powerless and hopeless. And you're only goal and objective was to stop corruption.
Good luck to you and GOD Bless. I see you are out of CT: SMART
Mr Common Sense

United States

#8 Mar 5, 2008
What part of free speech do these people not understand. I might not agree with what they say, but the internet is a public forum. That's what free speech is all about. If she called a school official a "douchbag" in school that would be different. Although some would argue that is also free speech. I won't get into that arugment at the moment. Bottom line is politicians needs to start enforcing the constitution, which shouldn't need enforcing at all.
Jeff H

Hamden, CT

#9 Mar 5, 2008
Bush wrote:
Thanks to Bush, this is why we including our native born American Children cannot say what they are feeling.
Our Rights Were Taken Away.
What a blazingly ignorant statement. Im no fan f George W. Bush, but that comment is just plain dumb.

People who don't like the patriot program are largely unaware of the domestic spy program run under the Clinton Crime Spree called Echelon, which was far more invasive.

Also, it's liberal shcool administrators, etc. who are capping free speech in school.

This has nothing to do with Bush, and blaming him for everything from 9/11 to kids speech freedom in school is ignorant.
davie

Ridgefield, CT

#10 Mar 5, 2008
What if the principal or superintendent wrote in her blog that the student was a douchebag and that she forbad her to run for class secretary just to piss her off? What would the student's or the public's reaction have been? Or would that have somehow been different?
tootrue

New Haven, CT

#11 Mar 5, 2008
In addition to watching what we eat, where, when and how fast we travel, who we talk to, about what and for how long, the state should put a microphone and camera in every home to make sure that no one is saying anything that upsets people in power. Next the state can monitor how much electricity and water you use, your banking transactions, work habits, etc... Oops, the state already does all of the above. Home of the "free" is now home of the fat, stupid and cowardly.
Oh Me

Wethersfield, CT

#12 Mar 5, 2008
Hopefully, this issue will have a long lasting impact on this young woman and her classmates. I hope she will continue to be an advocate for all civil liberties, including free speech.
She will long remember the outcome of the issue as will other students at her school. These are the kinds of incidents that make life long liberals and libertarians who stand up for constitutional rights for us all. Keep fighting the good fight, kid!
andy thibault

Yorktown Heights, NY

#13 Mar 5, 2008
fyi-

For The Record:
“As Of Now, Jamfest Is Cancelled”

http://cooljustice.blogspot.com/2008/03/for-r...
Many Issues Here

Willimantic, CT

#14 Mar 5, 2008
To begin with, although the right to free speech is a fact, there are methods that are more socially acceptable AND that garner more respect from the public at large than degratory name calling. It actually, in the end, belittles the whole process of public debate and open discourse.

Second, it would seem that - just as you can't place a poster in the school hallway that contains such language/comment, that posting in a manner that is as easily accessable FROM the school setting (Classrooms, computer labs, library, etc...) would also be intollerable.

Just as we expect our professional athaletes, military, police officers, physicians, etc... to carry on appropriate behavior in public, so should we expect the same from our children who will be the models for their offspring as well.

If you would ever notice, although insightful in their own ways, newspaper OP ED sections do not permit degratory speech and behaviors YET still permit and even encourage oppossing views.

We can have oppossitional view points without decaying into the gutter.

Quite obviously, with her intent to "piss her off more", her goal was more about vegence than an actual remedy to the situation at hand.

Intent, in any court case, is key to a verdict.

Now, if her posting weren't degratory toward school staff (I.e. handeled in a more mature manner) OR were otherwise questionable posting that didn't deal with the school in any way (I.e. stand on abortion, legalizing marijuana, sexual preferences, desire to free some third world nation, descent to the war, etc...) then NO - I feel the school has no business to comment on such posts.

Her behavior, personal character and vengeful comments - as an elected representative of her class - is what is in question. Not "free speech" per se.

yep - A tough one. Can't wait to see what the court decides!
Many Issues Here

Willimantic, CT

#15 Mar 5, 2008
Steven_G_Erickson wrote:
It is scary enough being a kid exercising your supposed Constitutional rights in Connecticut.
Adults in Connecticut that do the same thing can have the Connecticut State Police or Connecticut Department of Administrative Services hack into or fry personal computers of "targets".
If you speak out wanting your tax dollars' worth, ethics in police with equal protection and service, fair courts, or want public corruption investigated, you get the adult version of the witch hunt. Police will hunt you down, terrorize you, disrupt your family, get you fired from your job, make you lose your home, falsely arrest you, and you may end up held as a political prisoner. I was.
If kids are treated like this, what can they expect, living as adults in Connecticut?
It is time to end the Police State, The State of Fear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tKDUXls25KgXX
yes, our society even tollerates YOUR and Ms. Dickerson's right to free speech no matter how paranoid it really is........

Just a thought - you and Ms. Dickerson could save yourselves a great deall of time and valuable resouces if you simply paid the courant to advertise your links to your "evidence" by means of a paid solicitation! Pop-ups, banners, etc....(SMILE)
Many Issues Here

Willimantic, CT

#16 Mar 5, 2008
tootrue wrote:
....[sic] make sure that no one is saying anything that upsets people in power.

...Home of the "free" is now home of the fat, stupid and cowardly.
You forget, those that are concerned about the government's suppression of free speech freely and continually suppress free speech themselves. This occurs by means of suppressing opinion and speech related to what is deemed "politically incorrect". Yet daily, those in oppossition to givernments monitoring of speech and opinion freelt give into their groups own monitoring of other people.

We can't have it both ways.

What's more cowardly? To suppress speech and opinion from a governmental perspective or from the special interest group perspective that wants only to ensure their rights and not the rights of the majority of the citizens?

We can't even peacefully and seriously discuss cultural differences in an effort to better understand each other out of fear that the infamous "political correctness" defense might be utilized. This, regardless of the absence of sarcasm, threats of violence, degratory speech, etc...

Cowardly comes two fold: 1.) A fear to speak you opinion and 2.) Speaking your opinion in a threatening manner which would promote violence and hatred of your oppossition - thus ridding yourself of that oppossition without ever truely have a educated, insightful, civil discussion. A fear - in other words - that you MIGHT be wrong.....

Free speech should be free of insulting, degratory and threatening content. We can share our opinions and ideas without resorting to these failed tactics.
Many Issues Here

Willimantic, CT

#17 Mar 5, 2008
davie wrote:
What if the principal or superintendent wrote in her blog that the student was a douchebag and that she forbad her to run for class secretary just to piss her off? What would the student's or the public's reaction have been? Or would that have somehow been different?
Exactly! you see, they wouldn't hesitate to see the individual as the victim yet fail to see the damage to societal norms, appropriate discourse, civilized behaviors, etc... as the true victim.

I'd be interested in seeing the example set forth by the mother - by way of here e-mail that was posted. Was it more respectful and thoughtful or was it just as insultive and immature?
Moonbat Hunter

Upper Darby, PA

#18 Mar 5, 2008
The school administrators should be free of fear of harrassing lawsuits like this.

If you don't like their policies, organize politically and change the school board that hired them and renew their contracts. Don't abuse our system with lawsuits because your feelings were hurt.

There is no fundamental right to serve on extra-curricular activities like student council. If you don't like the rules for participating laid down by the administrators, you can chose to either abide by those rules or not.
Kehlbenn

United States

#19 Mar 5, 2008
Yet another example of suppression of fundamental rights given under The Bill of Rights and the United States Constitution.

Schools should never interfere in what happens off campus, insults are part of daily life and administrators are "public figures", and therefore should not be able to sanction anybody who speaks against them.
Adult

Durham, CT

#20 Mar 5, 2008
Whatever happened to kids respecting their elders? I think I'd be a bit peeved if one of my students wrote something bad about me for the world to see.

I guess these people have nothing better to do than waste OUR tax money in the court system.
One Voice

Overland Park, KS

#21 Mar 5, 2008
Many Issues Here wrote:
<quoted text>
You forget, those that are concerned about the government's suppression of free speech freely and continually suppress free speech themselves. This occurs by means of suppressing opinion and speech related to what is deemed "politically incorrect". Yet daily, those in oppossition to givernments monitoring of speech and opinion freelt give into their groups own monitoring of other people.
We can't have it both ways.
What's more cowardly? To suppress speech and opinion from a governmental perspective or from the special interest group perspective that wants only to ensure their rights and not the rights of the majority of the citizens?
We can't even peacefully and seriously discuss cultural differences in an effort to better understand each other out of fear that the infamous "political correctness" defense might be utilized. This, regardless of the absence of sarcasm, threats of violence, degratory speech, etc...
Cowardly comes two fold: 1.) A fear to speak you opinion and 2.) Speaking your opinion in a threatening manner which would promote violence and hatred of your oppossition - thus ridding yourself of that oppossition without ever truely have a educated, insightful, civil discussion. A fear - in other words - that you MIGHT be wrong.....
Free speech should be free of insulting, degratory and threatening content. We can share our opinions and ideas without resorting to these failed tactics.
Agreed. Look at all the people who want to suppress people who speak that global warming is not caused by humans. How many schools showed An Inconvenient Truth but would not show The Great Global Warming Swindle or present ANYTHING that would refute teh movie's allegations? Not saying there is or there isn't, but the presentation of global warming has been extremely one-sided with the opposition conveniently quieted.

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