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Read the facts
Grand Forks, ND
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Such Fools wrote: Outlaw, exterminate the Pit Bull breed, they are not a safe reliable breed. For the last few years they've killed more innocent children than one could imagine and yet there has been no action taken against eliminating this breed. OUTLAW THIS BREED AND SAVE A CHILD!! On the other hand if only one person were killed with a legally owned permitted hand gun, everyone would be up in arms demanding all gun permits be revoked and the owner ship of hand guns illegal. Between 1979 - 2001: 90,000 children were killed by guns in the US Between 1979 - 1998: 238 deaths (adults and children)were caused by dog attacks Are you kidding me? It's asinine to compare dog attacks to gun fatalities. 90,000 children!!! And then your surprised and annoyed/angry that people get upset and question our gun laws?!? Wow,what's wrong with you? Citations: *Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics *Sacks, JJ ,Sinclair, L, Gilchrist. J , Golab GC, and Lockwood R. "Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998" Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association
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Jerami
Saint Paul, MN
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I guess I don't understand why someone would need to lock up to protect their families from such lovable friendly animals.
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Bully Protector
Mount Gretna, PA
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Jerami wrote: I guess I don't understand why someone would need to lock up to protect their families from such lovable friendly animals. Jerami, please stop trying to twist my words just so you have something to argue about. I would not own an animal who is known to be aggressive, BUT if someone else would choose that, they need to be responsible enough to protect everyone from that animal. You admitted in another post that you would have a hard time giving up an animal. If a family adopted a cute puppy who became aggressive or unpredictable over time, would you expect them to just get rid of the animal or have it euthanized? Or can you at least admit why it may be difficult for the family to give the animal up? The point that you are not addressing.. trying to eliminate an entire breed is not practical and it's not necessary.
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Ace
Santa Cruz, CA
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EPT Soldier wrote: So many of you get so upset over someone's opinion here lol. If you dont like the dog so be it. If you love the dog, so be it. I have to Pits and love them to death. My family comes first of course. My dogs have their own pin in the back yard with plenty of room for them to runn around while im not home. My kids know not to go back there and mess with them, I told them from the beggining and they have listened to me. I told them that yes they are nice and all, but there is that chance that they are too hyper and may bite. When i do let the dogs out when I am home, my kids are really close to me and I dont let them play with the dogs alone. But when the kids want to play outside, the dogs go back to their pin so that my kids can play without fear or risk. Might I add then when I take the dogs for a walk also, they do have a muzzle on them also. All it takes is a little smart thinking and things like this would not happen. Jerami, first off I would never take my dogs to your house unless I knew you or my dogs knew you. I have to admire your pragmatic approach to owning pits, but I alse have to question whether it's worth all that trouble and future risk to own that type of dog in the first place. Accidents happen, and if it's one of your own children who is attacked, even though he followed your orders, then you will probably regret ever having that type of dog. Are they for home protection or what? Doesn't sound like your pits are family pets.
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Joined: May 13, 2008
Comments: 56
El Paso/Canutillo
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Roseland, NJ
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Ace wrote: <quoted text> I have to admire your pragmatic approach to owning pits, but I alse have to question whether it's worth all that trouble and future risk to own that type of dog in the first place. Accidents happen, and if it's one of your own children who is attacked, even though he followed your orders, then you will probably regret ever having that type of dog. Are they for home protection or what? Doesn't sound like your pits are family pets. I dont have the dogs for home protection, I have other means of that. I have the dogs cause they are great companions. The only time that they are in their pins are when I am not home, at night or when the kids are in the yard by themselvs. Granted they dont sound like they are part of the family, but they are. As long as I am around they have free roam of the yard and play with the kids. But that is only when I am there. I have lived with all types of dogs and can see when they are showing signs of aggression. That is when I put an end to play time for them. At no time are they or my kids alone with each other. heck their pens have really good living conditions too. I put an old sofa in there for them, they even have a small AC unit in the dog house for them. I also have a small dog that goes out and plays with them. The hardest part about raising a pit, is their energy level. The rest is easy. And it is no problem with the extra steps I have to take to insure the saftey of my kids and my dogs.
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“Proud Skeptic!”
Joined: Feb 20, 2008
Comments: 1799
El Paso
ISP:
Fort Worth, TX
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Jerami wrote: <quoted text> Na just ban the breeds that kill consistently...thats your little puppy pit bull. Actually I do not own nor have I ever owned a pitbull. I do not even have a dog of any kind right now. That said, I still don't believe that trying to ban the object does not address the real problem. That is human responsibility.
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Briser
Philadelphia, PA
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Jerami wrote: <quoted text> Bring the pit bull to my house and see what happens to your precious pup. Oh great. The internet tough guy arrived. First off genius one. It's not the dog you have to worry about, it's the owner. You wouldn't make it past me to get to my dog. Grow up...
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Briser
Philadelphia, PA
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super Lib wrote: My kids have the right to go where ever they want. Any one of my 8 kids is more important that all the dogs put together. Nothing can change my mind about these beasts. Super Lib, no, your children don't. Ever hear of Private Property?
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Jerami
Saint Paul, MN
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Briser wrote: <quoted text> Oh great. The internet tough guy arrived. First off genius one. It's not the dog you have to worry about, it's the owner. You wouldn't make it past me to get to my dog. Grow up... ha....no one fell for the bait...i thought for sure you PBP would make sure i knew the pit could take me...congrats u didnt take the bait. And you are correct children dont have free roam...but they have more freedom then ur dog
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Jerami
Saint Paul, MN
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Wake Up El Paso wrote: <quoted text> Actually I do not own nor have I ever owned a pitbull. I do not even have a dog of any kind right now. That said, I still don't believe that trying to ban the object does not address the real problem. That is human responsibility. banning the breed wont work...i realize that...but restricting them from cities/neighborhoods is reasonable
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galvodog6
Bronx, NY
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Read the facts wrote: <quoted text> Between 1979 - 2001: 90,000 children were killed by guns in the US Between 1979 - 1998: 238 deaths (adults and children)were caused by dog attacks Are you kidding me? It's asinine to compare dog attacks to gun fatalities. 90,000 children!!! And then your surprised and annoyed/angry that people get upset and question our gun laws?!? Wow,what's wrong with you? Citations: *Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics *Sacks, JJ ,Sinclair, L, Gilchrist. J , Golab GC, and Lockwood R. "Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998" Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association maybe if some of those kids had guns, they could have shot those dogs and the number would be zero
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galvodog6
Bronx, NY
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Ace wrote: I caught my son smashing some corn flakes yesterday and I tanned his hide! He just won't stop murdering those corn flakes. I'm afraid he's become one of those "cereal killers". I'm thinking of chaining him up with my pit-bull... just give the dog corn flakes instead and calll it even
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bemused
Birdsboro, PA
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[QUOTE who=" OUTLAW THIS BREED AND SAVE A CHILD!! On the other hand if only one person were killed with a legally owned permitted hand gun, everyone would be up in arms demanding all gun permits be revoked and the owner ship of hand guns illegal. [/QUOTE]
In the U.S. for 2001, there were 29,573 deaths from firearms, distributed as follows by mode of death: Suicide 16,869; Homicide 11,348; Accident 802; Legal Intervention 323; Undetermined 231.(CDC, 2004)
Another study showed that two-thirds of accidental firearms injuries occured in the home, and one-third involved children under 15.
OK, two thirds of 802 is 529 and one third of 529 is 174. 174 children killed by guns in the home in one year.
In 2006, 1,794 children age 14 and younger were killed in motor vehicle crashes. Of those 1,794 fatalities, 306 (17%) occurred in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. Children riding in vehicles with drivers who had a BAC level of .08 or higher accounted for half (153) of these deaths.
The CDC estimates that in the US more than 20,000 people die from the flu and its complications every year.
Killed by lightning strikes annually: 90
Average annual deaths by dog 16 (including adults). Some relative context anyone?
Kick the car/beer/virus/electricity/gun ... then the dog
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Joined: Mar 31, 2008
Comments: 1073
AOL
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super Lib wrote: My kids have the right to go where ever they want. Any one of my 8 kids is more important that all the dogs put together. Nothing can change my mind about these beasts. Yes I agree with you "super Lib" your kids have the right to go where ever they want, as long as their not being a menace to anyone... As a mother, please watch where they're going, sounds like you love your children very much... I sense that from you, I don't want to see them hurt in anyway, I know you feel the same as I do, I'm not being disrespectful at all, but there's people who think that their dog's won't attack children or adults, as well as some very sick people who prey on children who I think should get life for their actions... God Bless You And Your Sweet Children.
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julie
Los Molinos, CA
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Nicole
AOL
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I don't know, I believe that some dogs are just born evil, but I don't know about actual breeds of dogs all being evil. I think pit bulls just get a bad rap a lot of the time and it's not true that all of them are evil, cuz I know of a few that wouldn't even eat a fly and layed down when a dog tried attacking it. They are one of the strongest dogs which is why they are used in more fights but there are a lot of other dogs that have done a lot more damage too. Beagles, labs, german sheperds, dalmations, and even chihauhas have attacked people before too. Mainly I just think that it's the way the owners or past owners treated or raised the dog is the way it's going to act. But again I believe that they could be born evil, or even one day just snap. It's not just the pit bull's that are prone to it though.
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concerned parent
Las Cruces, NM
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I hate these kind of dogs. Most of the time the dogs are just as violent as the owners. How do you expect the dogs to be well trained, if the owners are just as bad.
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Joined: Jun 23, 2008
Comments: 31
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Wake Up El Paso wrote: Ban all dogs! Statistics show that dogs kill people more than all other pets combined! It's time to kick all dogs out of the country and stick to cats, hamsters, birds, gerbils, and chinchillas. Why don't we just ban you from the country?
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Johnny
Albuquerque, NM
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Nicole wrote: I don't know, I believe that some dogs are just born evil, but I don't know about actual breeds of dogs all being evil. I think pit bulls just get a bad rap a lot of the time and it's not true that all of them are evil, cuz I know of a few that wouldn't even eat a fly and layed down when a dog tried attacking it. They are one of the strongest dogs which is why they are used in more fights but there are a lot of other dogs that have done a lot more damage too. Beagles, labs, german sheperds, dalmations, and even chihauhas have attacked people before too. Mainly I just think that it's the way the owners or past owners treated or raised the dog is the way it's going to act. But again I believe that they could be born evil, or even one day just snap. It's not just the pit bull's that are prone to it though. You mention all different kinds of dogs and also said that other dogs had done more damaged, this little boy was "killed" is there more damaged than that. Were you born last night?
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Joined: Jun 23, 2008
Comments: 31
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Johnny wrote: <quoted text>You mention all different kinds of dogs and also said that other dogs had done more damaged, this little boy was "killed" is there more damaged than that. Were you born last night? Are you too stupid to realize that people kill more than Pitbulls? What about the parents that shoot, stab or hang their children. That to me, is worse than a little pitbull attacking so maybe we should look at reality and not the stupid little ****.
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