Letter: Liberal policies make America broke

Watching the unions for public agencies, firefighters, teachers, mental health workers, librarians and the like grovel for money without recognition that there just ain't none kills me.

[Good luck]

No cops, know anarchy.

[Charles Kasey Kitterman]

The blame goes to both parties. The Republicans do everything they can to get us all working for Walmart wages. The Republican party is set on creating a massive lower class to provide them cheap goods and services.

[tiredofthesos]

Konservatives have one trait (it goes along with their one-track minds, etc.)- bad things are Dems/Libs/Commies/Socialists/S cientists/Environmentalists/Sa tanists/Gays/Lesbians/Mexicans /Jews/Muslims/Atheists/the French/people who can spell 'moran' correctly as 'moron'/[fill in name of group the Konservative is not a current member of] fault. Good things are due to Konservatives' "morals" or "fiscal restraint" or, occasionally and only if they can see no way to claim credit (a rare event, indeed!), serendipity.

In other words, when wrong (basically, they are as right as a broken clock) they lie, by whatever means are available.

A Konservative is someone who believes in (other people) taking resposibility and (other people) making sacrifices for the good of the nation. They also advocate (other people) having good morals, manners, and offering logical, fact-based ideas.

In other words, they are full of **** i t and to be ignored, except as entertainment - like Mr. Cooper.

[Matt -Oroville]

This debate is truely not about party politics but about the economic foundation of our country.

Mr. Cooper is mostly correct and thank you for you wisdom.

All sustainable economies are based on goods and services and our GOODS and SERVICES are projected to continue to be reduced as more regulation is placed on the people who provide these DELIVERABLES. The statistical evidence exists in key indicators such as GDP vs. Debt etc. Just take the time to do some homework on these trends and real projections if you dare. Don't be afraid, it's imperative that as an American you learn these tennents.

If you have children who understand this, you would want to share this information with them and perhaps they would demand from you, that you do something to secure their freedom in the future by stopping this trend now. Lest you sit on your high horse and preach more entitlements, and social justice then our childrren will certainly know social unrest and warring in the streets.

Your nations highest managers are no more than educated, politicians. They have not succeeded in business based on the principles of economics. In fact they have little or no experience in this arena. If they were running your business, you would be out of business.

Just take the time to really evaluate the long term consequences of the moves this and previous admins have made. These, lifetime politicians are really not leaders who can represent the will of 'We the People'

As well, if you take some time to learn a few basics of our US Constitution, you would easily see that this administration in unlawful in many of their policies and actions. They are literally taking over and the result will not be pretty if we let this continue.

Good Day

[SJG]

tiredofthesos wrote:

one trait (it goes along with their one-track minds, etc.)

TOTS, I know of a kettle that would like to meet you.

[NW Hominid]

We've had deficits for centuries, one of my prior profs stated it was actually against our constitution "somewhere in the fine print" to have a balanced budget, we have to be either in the "black or red" - someone has to owe somebody in a capitalist economy!...

[Mike]

Republicans always want a fight. The chaos they have created in the last 8 years deregulating the stock and mortgage investment vehicles, fighting science, promoting big industries letting them harbor US taxes in offshore accounts, making uplies about WMDs so as to no bid contracts to Cheneys buddies, deregulation of energy which destroyed many CA small businesses[Enron who with Ken Lay financed the Bush dynasty, Duke Cunningham giving military contracts for Rancho Santa Fe housing, hypocrtical family values exposed, outing aCIA agent V. Plume. The morals of the repulicans is purely $ leaving the country in need of Adult Supervision

[Max]

Cooper has a good point that we need to take seriously our budgetary, economic condition and open-mindedly reconsider our priorities, values and practical capabilities. Unfortunately he doesn't offer much constructive action other than to blame our problems on his partisan opposition and season his comments with the usual "socialist" name calling. If conservatism is blameless in our economic problems (a premise not established), politicians who call themselves conservatives certainly carry a lot of blame.

Cooper suggests the answer to our budget problems is degenerating into a Hobbesian state, presumably with survival of the fittest. There was a time in our past, around the early 1900's, when this social Darwinism influenced many. Today more people recognize that while we may have origins in the animal kingdom, we choose not to live like wild animals. The US is widely believed to be a Christian nation and Christ's sermon on the mount expresses many of America's human values. If you accept Cooper's commentary, don't call yourself a Christian or someone who takes seriously Christ's teachings. Caring for the well-being of our fellow man is basic to Christianity.

[Mopa Eniwetok]

Oh those liberals!

Everything was fine until that bunch came along!

Our president had a great little war going in a far off country and all of our defense industries were doing great! See, thats a different kind of deficit spending! You see, its okay to borrow money for our newest F22 fighter planes:$1.5 billion each but they have not ever been used in Iraq or Afghanistan because they are not suited for the "mission" there.

It's all a matter of priorities. If you want to borrow trillions for illegal wars that is a good thing. If you want to invest in the future, thats socialism! Amazing!

[Mopa Eniwetok]

Matt -Oroville wrote:

This debate is truely not about party politics but about the economic foundation of our country.
Mr. Cooper is mostly correct and thank you for you wisdom.
All sustainable economies are based on goods and services and our GOODS and SERVICES are projected to continue to be reduced as more regulation is placed on the people who provide these DELIVERABLES. The statistical evidence exists in key indicators such as GDP vs. Debt etc. Just take the time to do some homework on these trends and real projections if you dare. Don't be afraid, it's imperative that as an American you learn these tennents.
If you have children who understand this, you would want to share this information with them and perhaps they would demand from you, that you do something to secure their freedom in the future by stopping this trend now. Lest you sit on your high horse and preach more entitlements, and social justice then our childrren will certainly know social unrest and warring in the streets.
Your nations highest managers are no more than educated, politicians. They have not succeeded in business based on the principles of economics. In fact they have little or no experience in this arena. If they were running your business, you would be out of business.
Just take the time to really evaluate the long term consequences of the moves this and previous admins have made. These, lifetime politicians are really not leaders who can represent the will of 'We the People'
As well, if you take some time to learn a few basics of our US Constitution, you would easily see that this administration in unlawful in many of their policies and actions. They are literally taking over and the result will not be pretty if we let this continue.
Good Day

Principles of economics? You mean, make it up as you go?

Our current economic system is predicated on growth and growing consumption. It cannot be sustained because ultimately you use everything up and there is no more room for growth. There will also be a lot of huge problems along the way.

Using the new speak/double talk language of "economics" is simply contributing to the lie. There is no "science" of economics, merely spin up new hype and then move on to the next scam. It is time for a new way.

[mdeveraux]

Cooper ,there is no way we will sell goods to china or india, they have much lower cost of living, they manufacture goods ,we buy them,where have you been ?

[Buster202]

The reality is that cost estimates for climate legislation are as unreliable as the models predicting climate change. What comes out of the computer is a function of what politicians type in. A better indicator might be what other countries are already experiencing. Britain's Taxpayer Alliance estimates the average family there is paying nearly $1,300 a year in green taxes for carbon-cutting programs in effect only a few years.

Americans should know that those Members who vote for this climate bill are voting for what is likely to be the biggest tax in American history. Even Democrats can't repeal that reality.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1245888375607...

[Joe Sixpack]

I agree with many of the letter writer's points. But he seems to close his eyes and pretend that the idiot Bush squandered $6 trillion on his wars, subsidies for corporations, tax cuts for the rich, worthless "drug benefit" for the pharmaceutical companies, secret wealth transfers from the Treasury to Wall Street investment banks and a trail of no-bid fatcat defense contracts for arms we'll never need. The wacko neocon right and the extreme lefties have polluted our governing system, no doubt. We need pragmatic moderates back in office.

[Joe Sixpack]

FIXING GARBLE: I agree with many of the letter writer's points. But he seems to close his eyes and pretend that the idiot Bush didn't squander $6 trillion on his wars, subsidies for corporations, tax cuts for the rich, worthless "drug benefit" for the pharmaceutical companies, secret wealth transfers from the Treasury to Wall Street investment banks and a trail of no-bid fatcat defense contracts for arms we'll never need. The wacko neocon right and the extreme lefties have polluted our governing system, no doubt. We need pragmatic moderates back in office.

[alphabionic]

Spending by lawmakers on taxpayer-financed trips abroad has risen sharply in recent years, involving everything from war-zone visits to trips to exotic spots such as the Galápagos Islands.

Lawmakers say that the trips are a good use of government funds because they allow members of Congress and their staff members to learn more about the world.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1246503994381...

[Buster202]

Remember Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Chris Dodd?

This mess started right here -

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
Published: Thursday, September 30, 1999


In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit
requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders. The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15
markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally
not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage
loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders
to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.

In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to
qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates -- anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.

''Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements,'' said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chairman and chief executive officer.''Yet there remain too many borrowers
whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.''

Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market. In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's.

''From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,'' said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.''If they fail, the government will have to step
up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.''

[alphabionic]

Buster202 wrote:

The reality is that cost estimates for climate legislation are as unreliable as the models predicting climate change. What comes out of the computer is a function of what politicians type in. A better indicator might be what other countries are already experiencing. Britain's Taxpayer Alliance estimates the average family there is paying nearly $1,300 a year in green taxes for carbon-cutting programs in effect only a few years.
Americans should know that those Members who vote for this climate bill are voting for what is likely to be the biggest tax in American history. Even Democrats can't repeal that reality.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1245888375607...

Thanks, good article. Wake up people, Fat AL will be the first person to become a billionair off this Cap and traitor fraud. Nancy Pelucy also will cash in big. Conflict of interest maybe?

[alphabionic]

tiredofthesos wrote:

Konservatives have one trait (it goes along with their one-track minds, etc.)- bad things are Dems/Libs/Commies/Socialists/S cientists/Environmentalists/Sa tanists/Gays/Lesbians/Mexicans /Jews/Muslims/Atheists/the French/people who can spell 'moran' correctly as 'moron'/[fill in name of group the Konservative is not a current member of] fault. Good things are due to Konservatives' "morals" or "fiscal restraint" or, occasionally and only if they can see no way to claim credit (a rare event, indeed!), serendipity.
In other words, when wrong (basically, they are as right as a broken clock) they lie, by whatever means are available.
A Konservative is someone who believes in (other people) taking resposibility and (other people) making sacrifices for the good of the nation. They also advocate (other people) having good morals, manners, and offering logical, fact-based ideas.
In other words, they are full of **** i t and to be ignored, except as entertainment - like Mr. Cooper.

I figured it out Turd. I thought maybe you were working in Kobo, Now I realize that you are in a mental hospital. How nice of them to let you use the internet. Now is it time for your meds? It is either that or liberalism truely is a metal disease.

[ChicoLibertarian]

"Our country needs to produce valuable products we can sell to China, India and other underdeveloped nations at prices they can afford"

Another dumb MF trying to tell American workers that they should be working for pennies a day, all the while the rich can get richer.

What sort of complete moonbat is Garry Cooper? Is it the water in Durham, because that area seems to produce a higher than average amount of stupid moonbats.

[ChicoLibertarian]

Mike wrote:

Republicans always want a fight. The chaos they have created in the last 8 years deregulating the stock and mortgage investment vehicles, fighting science, promoting big industries letting them harbor US taxes in offshore accounts, making uplies about WMDs so as to no bid contracts to Cheneys buddies, deregulation of energy which destroyed many CA small businesses[Enron who with Ken Lay financed the Bush dynasty, Duke Cunningham giving military contracts for Rancho Santa Fe housing, hypocrtical family values exposed, outing aCIA agent V. Plume. The morals of the repulicans is purely $ leaving the country in need of Adult Supervision

Straight up! Republikans can not lead, as has been shown time and time again.

Thanks for reminding us of the various nightmares of Republikan "leadership" over the last 8 years.