Obama sidesteps reform in Illinois

Obama sidesteps reform in Illinois

There are 127 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Sep 16, 2008, titled Obama sidesteps reform in Illinois. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

F or those of you who still cling to the fantasy that Barack Obama is "about change," you should note how he, or his minions, want nothing to do with reforming politics in Illinois, perhaps the most corrupt ...

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CoDo

Des Plaines, IL

#1 Sep 16, 2008
If only the rest of the United States was aware of how little he has done in Illinois, they would never think of voting in such a person. Thank you for a well written factual column
Pxl

Naperville, IL

#2 Sep 16, 2008
CoDo wrote:
If only the rest of the United States was aware of how little he has done in Illinois, they would never think of voting in such a person. Thank you for a well written factual column
Yes, because the old dude and the mooseburger is a much better choice...

Since: Sep 08

Mobile, AL

#3 Sep 16, 2008
Mr. Byrne,
I second your feelings. In fact, I posted a comment on Barak Obama's campaign web-site (once I figured out how to get past the big DONATE ploy on the main page) asking if Sen. Obama had any intention of getting involved. However, clearly no-one bothers to consider anything negative about the candidate, as all I got in response were a bunch of mass e-mails asking for more support (ie money) to help Barack. I guess thinking that Mr. Obama really cares about his constituents in Illinois was a wet dream.
Maori

Chicago, IL

#4 Sep 16, 2008
Illinois and Chicago are the most corrupt-crooked state/city in the nation. Once the national and international media get a hold of the truth about Chicago, Cook County and Illinois corruption-Barack's campaign is going to go down in flames. Your inability to address any reform to campaign pay-to-play contributions or even to acknowledge it's existence has sealed your fate.

And hopefully he takes Daley, Blago and Todd with him. So thank you Obama, really-for bringing this mess into the light of world press.

And please IOC do not award us the 2016 Olympics-we have enough greedy political pigs feeding at the trough.

Since: Sep 08

Mobile, AL

#5 Sep 16, 2008
You're right, why believe that Palin, who actually has a track record of standing up against party members who violate ethics standards (see Randy Ruedrich and Gregg Renkes for examples) would do better than Obama, who supported Todd Stroger, and refuses to critize Jones, for this, or for his other recent un-democratic move of retiring after the primary, and putting his son on the ballot in his place. Do Cook County democrats (Stroger, Lipinski, now Jones) think that we live in North Korea?
Pxl wrote:
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Yes, because the old dude and the mooseburger is a much better choice...
Yes

Park Ridge, IL

#6 Sep 16, 2008
Yes, people, ah, who are not from Illinois/Chicago, ah, have no idea how, ah, corrupt it is here and, ah, do not realize Obama has done, ah, absolutely nothing for his constituents.
PeterK
#8 Sep 16, 2008
THANK YOU! Instead of focusing on whether or not Sarah Palin can pass Charlie Gibson's pop quiz, maybe someone outside of Chicago will focus on why Obama has never done one thing to clean up the cesspool of our local politics. Couldn't have said it better myself Dennis--"agent of change, my foot".
Fred in Akron

Akron, OH

#9 Sep 16, 2008
Having moved from Illinois last year, people there need to understand that while there is corruption in government most places, it really is worse in Chicago and Springfield. It is a shame that the great champion of change won't intervene to help clean up even the worst of the excesses of it all.
Maori

Chicago, IL

#10 Sep 16, 2008
Wayne_IL wrote:
You're right, why believe that Palin, who actually has a track record of standing up against party members who violate ethics standards (see Randy Ruedrich and Gregg Renkes for examples) would do better than Obama, who supported Todd Stroger, and refuses to critize Jones, for this, or for his other recent un-democratic move of retiring after the primary, and putting his son on the ballot in his place. Do Cook County democrats (Stroger, Lipinski, now Jones) think that we live in North Korea?
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Get a hold of Jim Laski's book- "My Fall From Grace" From City Hall to Prison Walls- you can get it at Borders.
He has a great rip on Lipinski. It's the book that Daley doesn't want you to read, and it's even been banned in Federal Prisons.

And as far as Stroger and Jones-what a bunch of slime.
Yeah, I do think they would like it to be North Korea. I've heard Kim Jung Il is about ready to croak, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. But then again I think we both know of a couple of guys who..........

Since: Sep 08

Mobile, AL

#11 Sep 16, 2008
It would nice if we could even get some political commentators from Chicago to focus on this. Eric Zorn feels that it is more important to count the number of times Sarah Palin called Charlie Gibson "Charlie" than to count the number of times Barack Obama has gone out of his way to avoid criticism of the total lack of reform displayed by the people that put him where he is today.
PeterK wrote:
THANK YOU! Instead of focusing on whether or not Sarah Palin can pass Charlie Gibson's pop quiz, maybe someone outside of Chicago will focus on why Obama has never done one thing to clean up the cesspool of our local politics. Couldn't have said it better myself Dennis--"agent of change, my foot".
Peter Byrne

Taranto, Italy

#13 Sep 16, 2008
Crybabies of Chicago and Illinois: You talk as if you have no vote. Why haven't you used it to get your way? Do you prefer to mash your mushy mouths about corruption for want of another subject? That's the case of this screechy wannabe columnist. Turn the page.
Timothy

United States

#15 Sep 16, 2008
Is Dennis in junior high? This story amounts to nothing more than gossip, innuendo, and weak accusations. No facts, no substance, just partisan garbage intended to distract from the real phony reform ticket: Palin/McCain.
Tara

Rockford, IL

#16 Sep 16, 2008
Obama contributes to corruption by opting out of campaign finance laws. He wants to buy the election with his celebrity buddies so he can increase all of our taxes and lie about giving a tax break to 95% of the population... when only 40% pay them.
BigDoggie

United States

#17 Sep 16, 2008
Bravo Dennis! We can only hope that this is an inaction that gets into the national spotlight, but with the national press none too eager to report negative press on our homestate agent of "change", I'm guessing this is as far as the issue goes.
Gregg

Chicago, IL

#18 Sep 16, 2008
Jones wrote:
To all you No-bamaicans, you might want to read the following: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
This article, which may need a reprint, cites Obama’s ability to work for reform, but in a style that was cool, rational, and skilled. He wasn’t a rough ‘n tumble disaster like our Current Occupant, and like McCain promises to be.
Obama “played an important role in drafting bipartisan ethics legislation and health-care reform. He overcame law enforcement objections to codify changes designed to curb racial profiling and to make capital punishment, which he favors, more equitable.”
Sound like a slacker?
He also “favored more ambitious changes in campaign law, including limits on contributions, but nipped and tucked in search of consensus… he also was willing to recognize that he was probably not going to get everything he wanted” As in, he NEGOTIATED with the opposite party, something he’d do very well as president that our Current Occupant certainly doesn’t.
“The result, according to good-government groups, was the most ambitious campaign reform in nearly 25 years, making Illinois one of the best in the nation on campaign finance disclosure.”
Dennis Byrne has no right to say that Obama has never worked for reform.
Now, what kind of reform would McCain/Palin bring? Seriously. I mean, he thinks the economy is going strong, so if he can’t see a crisis right in front of his face, what inspiration would he have to change anything? What record does McCain have for any type of reform? Cite some examples and convince me.
Obama is a Marxist - read what he means by 'economic justice'. Read about how he finds the free market anathema. Read what he has written. Obama's change is something that THIS country doesn't need. Maybe he should bring it to Europe where he is loved.
Timothy

United States

#19 Sep 16, 2008
Jones wrote:
To all you No-bamaicans, you might want to read the following: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
I hope many here will read the Washington Post article but I am afraid they wont as it does not fit their preconceived notions and doesn't bring up Rev. Wright or speech patterns to punctuate their childish argument against Obama.
Maori

Chicago, IL

#20 Sep 16, 2008
Obama endorsed Richard Daley for mayor. And what does Chicago get. More political corruption trials and convictions than we can even keep track of.

Plus we as taxpayers get to pick up the tab for $12 million in Shakman Decree settlements regarding political patronage hiring. And Daley gets a Federally appointed hiring monitor who recently told us that King Richard is back at again.

Chicago is now facing a $420 million shortfall in the city budget. I dunno- yeah I guess that is change we can believe in.

Obama endorsed Todd Stroger. And what does Cook County get. The highest sales tax in the nation, and a bloated payroll of patronage hacks and friends and family of the Toddler.

Barack is a product of this political machine, and he even has David Axelrod-Daley's campaign chief- running your friggin show. There is no change here in Chicago or Illinois that I can see.
CoDo

Des Plaines, IL

#21 Sep 16, 2008
Timothy wrote:
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I hope many here will read the Washington Post article but I am afraid they wont as it does not fit their preconceived notions and doesn't bring up Rev. Wright or speech patterns to punctuate their childish argument against Obama.
Read it and it is full of misrepresentations. yes, Obama's name was on those bills but no, he did not put them together or have anything to do with them until his mento the evil Emil turned them over to him at the last minute so he could take all the glory but do none of the work. this is the true obama style.
Greg

Newark, OH

#22 Sep 16, 2008
Get serious. Especially after bringing this matter to the press's attention, what she was asking for was more than a mere 30-second phone call. She is publicly pressuring Obama to twist his mentor's arm. Not much? Show me any politician who likes to keep his bridges unscorched, who would do more than Obama did.
Rich

Lynchburg, VA

#23 Sep 16, 2008
Maori wrote:
Illinois and Chicago are the most corrupt-crooked state/city in the nation. Once the national and international media get a hold of the truth about Chicago, Cook County and Illinois corruption-Barack's campaign is going to go down in flames. Your inability to address any reform to campaign pay-to-play contributions or even to acknowledge it's existence has sealed your fate.
And hopefully he takes Daley, Blago and Todd with him. So thank you Obama, really-for bringing this mess into the light of world press.
And please IOC do not award us the 2016 Olympics-we have enough greedy political pigs feeding at the trough.
Do not the good people of Illinois vote for these folks who are now in office? What happened?

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