Local school officials wondering how to improve security

In light of the tragic shooting deaths of 20 children and six adults at a Newtown, Connecticut elementary school Dec. Full Story
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unknown

Dover, OH

#1 Dec 17, 2012
Hire returning veterans for security. Protection is in their blood.
Iraq Vet

Marion, OH

#2 Dec 17, 2012
Im sure there are several prior service police or vets who would volunteer and put themselves between the kids and some madman. Beyond that, we should consider fencing off the area into a compound and establishing security entry/ exit checkpoints. To do this right, security needs to be in depth, outer, chokepoint, and inner. Both fixed and roving. It may seem crazy now, but if something happens everyone will be wondering why we didnt do it.
Seattle Slew

United States

#3 Dec 17, 2012
unknown wrote:
Hire returning veterans for security. Protection is in their blood.
I'll bet if security experts sat down and evaluated each school they could devise a plan for each school to reduce opportunities for this type of mass murder. Plans might include:

Sally ports for entry doors, no tailgating.

Strong doors and windows.

Defensive weapons onsite, mace, tasers, BP vests, mag locks on all doors with remote control from office, safe rooms in all classrooms, obsticles to prevent vehicle assualts, etc etc etc.

Many other defenses will apply to schools based on individual designs. Take a look at what was done at any Federal Reserve Bank building after 911 and implement the same measures.

None of this is rocket science, its all been done already just not to protect the kids, RIP.

President Obama, now IS the time to restore school security funding cuts made in 2011. They were needed.

RIP kids and brave staff at Sandy Hook.
Seattle Slew

United States

#4 Dec 17, 2012
Iraq Vet wrote:
Im sure there are several prior service police or vets who would volunteer and put themselves between the kids and some madman. Beyond that, we should consider fencing off the area into a compound and establishing security entry/ exit checkpoints. To do this right, security needs to be in depth, outer, chokepoint, and inner. Both fixed and roving. It may seem crazy now, but if something happens everyone will be wondering why we didnt do it.
Agree 100%.

I'm a retired vet with time to spare and would be willing to absorb rounds to protect little ones, my grand kids.

Government is not providing needed security for schools.

Yet schools won't allow anything but Government programs to provide security. Contact your school district and offer to help, see their reaction. It's like they feel they must control everything or they lose control, as if that's important.
patient parent

Bellefontaine, OH

#5 Dec 17, 2012
Give every staff member a 40. That will settle it!
parent

Columbus, OH

#6 Dec 17, 2012
I am a parent and I have children that go to carrollton and I personally have been buzzed in just by saying I'm bringing a lunch ....no questions asked and the entrance where u get buzzed in is no where near the office you have to walk through the halls past multiple classrooms just to get to the office and I have walked in the office and no one is there!!!
Seattle Slew

United States

#7 Dec 17, 2012
parent wrote:
I am a parent and I have children that go to carrollton and I personally have been buzzed in just by saying I'm bringing a lunch ....no questions asked and the entrance where u get buzzed in is no where near the office you have to walk through the halls past multiple classrooms just to get to the office and I have walked in the office and no one is there!!!
Oh heck, I pick up grandkids at preschool and walk right in off the street, no buzzin or any security.

Sign the kids out and on my way. Teachers make sure the kids are OK with the adult picking them up but otherwise NO SECURITY. I feel for the staff with no security, open door to the street.

Schools are not secured in any way shape or form.

And to top it off the Federal Government cut school security funding in 2011, under Obama's rule. However ObamaPhones are flying off the shelves like hot cakes,$1.3 BILLION this year. School security was only $800 million in 2010.

Priorities.

Obamaphones get votes, school security not so much.
Billy

Scio, OH

#8 Dec 17, 2012
Train people to recognize the signs. They are there! This kid had the signs. Most other actions like this or less have the signs. School officials have to react to these signs and local law enforcement have to react. It can't and will fall only on the school. They don't have the expertize to handle this. Putting armed security in the schools is not the answer. They cannot patrol every area and that would too expensive. Be reasonable!
Seattle Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Dec 17, 2012
Billy wrote:
Train people to recognize the signs. They are there! This kid had the signs. Most other actions like this or less have the signs. School officials have to react to these signs and local law enforcement have to react. It can't and will fall only on the school. They don't have the expertize to handle this. Putting armed security in the schools is not the answer. They cannot patrol every area and that would too expensive. Be reasonable!
Wow, ALL armed security guards can be removed from schools nationwide, that WILL save some real $$$.

More $$$ for ObamaPhones.
nuya

Chicago, IL

#10 Dec 17, 2012
About two weeks ago I walked right into the High School. The door opened as a student was exiting and I walked right in. I could have walked the entire school without being questioned. I did check in at the office as I know thats the procedure.
I agree with the other writers. To say the "doors are locked after a certain time" is no security at all. Our children go back and forth between the High School and B.H. all day long.
Billy

Scio, OH

#11 Dec 17, 2012
After Columbine, the same reaction spurred through out the public. Prevention will never solve these issues. People that want to do this will always find a way. Moral decay, single parenting, rules and regulations from sources that are not familiar with local issues. We will continue to see these types of attacks. What we don't want by overreacting is to lose more of our freedoms and rights. Do we want armed guards and metal detectors in all of our schools and public function? No! These are the results of fear. The people that perform these acts of cruelty put numerous signs out there. Train people to recognize and understand.
Brtcl

Erie, PA

#13 Dec 17, 2012
I live in Plain Twp, EVERY school is locked down during school day. Once tardy bell rings all doors lock except 1. That door goes into the office. When you walk in you have no choice but to stop at the desk. You HAVE to sign in, and not to mention therevare cameras in place everywhere. Then only 1 door out of office to enter building. Once school day is over, the doors unlock so all doors can be used. Staff is very visible before befor and after school at certain locations thru out! I am VERY happy with this set up. But nothing is perfect! We do need metal detectors i feel also. I am surprised Carrollton schools havent done something like this with all their offices eventhough changes would be made from where some are at now. We can never beto safe.
Historian

New Philadelphia, OH

#15 Dec 17, 2012
With the influx of non-American citizens working for the gas and oil companies, we are at an even greater risk. No one has any background on these people.
Billy

United States

#16 Dec 18, 2012
Non-American citizens? Try doing a background check on an Amish person. Should we worry about them also? The mother of this person knew he was unstable or at least showed warning signs. But she stil kept guns and ammunition in the house and made available to this person. The only way this could have prevented was if someone outside the home marked him as a substantial risk, and connected that guns and ammo were available to him.

Has a worker from the Oil and Gas industry in our area done anything to harm somone like this? That statement is simply unfounded.
WOWZIE

Wadsworth, OH

#17 Dec 18, 2012
Historian wrote:
With the influx of non-American citizens working for the gas and oil companies, we are at an even greater risk. No one has any background on these people.
Let's just put blame on oil and gas. If it wasn't for that industry my American husband probably still wouldn't have a job, after trying to find one for two years after being laid off. He is not crazy but I can bet you do not know any background on him either. Take a look at these mass shootings, these shooters are American mostly what I have seen. Wake up, it could be your neighbor. This is so tragic, but how are schools in this county supposed to up security when the people won't even pass a levy. I'm a Conotton Valley mom and our school is rural like that one. It can happen anywhere. I feel for these schools, they can keep them locked down but that doesn't always solve the issue. I'm sure all schools in this county would need funds to up security. So sad.
Carroll Countian

Saint Clairsville, OH

#18 Dec 18, 2012
Wowzie you hit the nail on the head. Everyone has ideas for solutions but no one wants to pay for them. If someone is bent on creating havoc they are going to create havoc and don't have to use a gun. Remember Timothy McVeigh?
Randy Miller

Saint Clairsville, OH

#19 Dec 18, 2012
I know a cost free solution, have the teachers, the ones who want to, conceal carry. Let it be known that they do and it will deterr the bad guys.
Seattle Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Dec 18, 2012
Historian wrote:
With the influx of non-American citizens working for the gas and oil companies, we are at an even greater risk. No one has any background on these people.
Those non-Americans are busy WORKING!!

Most of these mass-murderers are quite white, very American, not needy, very smart, not homeless, not working by choice etc.

I'm as concerned about illegals as anyone but don't bring that into this, NOT A FACTOR!!!
Brain

Sarasota, FL

#22 Dec 18, 2012
We have a whole book written about ....

http://governmenttraininginc.com/School-Secur...
Cindy

Massillon, OH

#23 Dec 18, 2012
Randy Miller wrote:
I know a cost free solution, have the teachers, the ones who want to, conceal carry. Let it be known that they do and it will deterr the bad guys.
Your solution will never work. It's common sense. Most politicians think that stricter gun laws are in order, you know, disarm the law-abiding citizens and leave guns in the hands of criminals.

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