Male Figure Skating Highlights Homop...

Male Figure Skating Highlights Homophobia and Sexism Canada

There are 218 comments on the www.womanist-musings.com story from Feb 22, 2010, titled Male Figure Skating Highlights Homophobia and Sexism Canada. In it, www.womanist-musings.com reports that:

Figure skating continues to be a contentious event at the Olympics, even though a new scoring system has been implemented. There will always be those who question the scoring but when critique is based on homophobia and sexism, clearly the debate has reached a level that needs to be discussed.In an interview with Salon, three time world medal champion Elvis Stojko, made clear that the greatest danger to figure skating is the feminization of male skaters. Unfortunately, Elvis is not the only person to cast aspirations of gay male figure skaters. Quebec sports casters Claude Mailhot and Alain Goldberg kicked down the door that Elvis opened

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Net Nanny

Novato, CA

#33 Feb 22, 2010
Marram wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn’t mean to upset you (if I did?). I just think generalized statements are based more on personal biases and not fact, and, do more harm than good.
I agree. Sadly there seem to be two sets of standards.

Since: Feb 10

Woodstock, Illinois

#34 Feb 22, 2010
Having been to many judged competitions, I find I often don't agree with the judges. As a layman, I don't presume to know all the detail they take into account. I was impressed with Wier's performance and accept that I did not judge it the way the pro's did. Regarding the commentators remarks, they were out of line. No one who has worked as hard as any of these competitors did deserves to be disrespected by anyone, especially out of shape sports commentators. They should try on a set of skates for themselves.

“Married as I can be!”

Since: Jun 07

Las Vegas

#35 Feb 22, 2010
Doesn't anyone on this forum care about how they *skated?* I'm sure I don't really care which skaters are gay and which are straight, I enjoy their skill and their art.
BS Detector

Los Angeles, CA

#36 Feb 22, 2010
ltndncr59 wrote:
Doesn't anyone on this forum care about how they *skated?* I'm sure I don't really care which skaters are gay and which are straight, I enjoy their skill and their art.
You may appreciate their skill, but if their peerformance does not appeal to "most people" then the skaters might consider butching up their performance if they want to score higher. I don't care if they're straight or gay off the ice (none of my business), but I don't want to see a bunch of Richard Simmons types taking over a sport. Effeminate skating is just not appealing to me. Call me old fashioned, but I like male athletes to look (and perform) like athletes, not like Adam Lambert.

Let the flames begin.

“Married as I can be!”

Since: Jun 07

Las Vegas

#37 Feb 22, 2010
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> You may appreciate their skill, but if their peerformance does not appeal to "most people" then the skaters might consider butching up their performance if they want to score higher. I don't care if they're straight or gay off the ice (none of my business), but I don't want to see a bunch of Richard Simmons types taking over a sport. Effeminate skating is just not appealing to me. Call me old fashioned, but I like male athletes to look (and perform) like athletes, not like Adam Lambert.
Let the flames begin.
Good thing you're not an Olympic ice-skating judge then, I guess.

“Homosapien ”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#38 Feb 23, 2010
Weir put on a great long program and should have moved up in the standings for artistry and not falling on his ass or faltering during his jumps. I personally think he should of gotten the bronze both of his scores seemed low, but at least he should have placed fifth his free skate was beautiful and athletic.
BS Detector

Los Angeles, CA

#39 Feb 23, 2010
ltndncr59 wrote:
<quoted text>
Good thing you're not an Olympic ice-skating judge then, I guess.
I knew somebody would say something dumb. Kinda sad it was you.

You seem to want everybody to accept and approve of the feminization of men's figure skating. And when the anyone doesn't buy it, you'll blame THEM. Isn't that how many on your side do it? If anybody dares object to your bias, it's *their* fault.

And then you wonder why so many don't accept you.

Nobody really cares if a skater is gay. They care how he skates. But if his choreography screams what the audience doesn't want to see, they have every right to object.

“Your Gods' Rules not mine.”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#40 Feb 23, 2010
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> You may appreciate their skill, but if their peerformance does not appeal to "most people" then the skaters might consider butching up their performance if they want to score higher. I don't care if they're straight or gay off the ice (none of my business), but I don't want to see a bunch of Richard Simmons types taking over a sport. Effeminate skating is just not appealing to me. Call me old fashioned, but I like male athletes to look (and perform) like athletes, not like Adam Lambert.
Let the flames begin.
Evan Lysecek (sp?) certainly doesn't appear effeminate.

Name a male singles figure skater you consider "butch" please.
Disgusted American

Philadelphia, PA

#41 Feb 23, 2010
..this is a stupid discussion..sexist and bigoted....so, by some people's reasoning....then I guess female hockey players should be MORE Feminine??? Unless you can skate/jump and skate...zip around and flip in the air etc while on skates..just STFU! Talent is talent.
Net Nanny

Novato, CA

#42 Feb 23, 2010
Disgusted American wrote:
..this is a stupid discussion..sexist and bigoted....so, by some people's reasoning....then I guess female hockey players should be MORE Feminine??? Unless you can skate/jump and skate...zip around and flip in the air etc while on skates..just STFU! Talent is talent.
Hockey is not a subjectively scored sport. Doesn't matter how you skate as long as the puck goes in the net.

The scoring criteria, in all elements, matters in figure skating.

Too bad you miss the obvious.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#43 Feb 23, 2010
Marram wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn’t mean to upset you (if I did?). I just think generalized statements are based more on personal biases and not fact, and, do more harm than good.
No offence taken.
BS Detector

Los Angeles, CA

#44 Feb 23, 2010
lndychick wrote:
<quoted text>
Evan Lysecek (sp?) certainly doesn't appear effeminate.
Name a male singles figure skater you consider "butch" please.
Scott Hamilton
mrsir

Leslie, MI

#45 Feb 23, 2010
Maybe they should start being judges at the WestMenstrual DOG Show's,( We know thats free of "GAYS" ,...lol )
USSA

New Castle, PA

#46 Feb 23, 2010
Maybe when gay people realize they're not special because of their chosen sexual orientation.
Marram wrote:
Just proof that homophobia is alive an well in Canada (and around the world). When are not-gay people going to figure out that they aren't special just because of their sexual orientationl. Besides that I've met plenty of effeminate non-gay men and masculine non-gay women in my life. People are people and we're all equally viable.
BTW....Weir should have gotten the Bronze. Homphobic judges stole it from him.
steve

Oviedo, FL

#47 Feb 23, 2010
USSA wrote:
Maybe when gay people realize they're not special because of their chosen sexual orientation.
<quoted text>
How can anyone listen seriously to someone who can't even spell 'USA' correctly?

Go away. Learn things. Oh, and stay away. KTHXBYE
Disgusted American

Philadelphia, PA

#48 Feb 23, 2010
USSA wrote:
Maybe when gay people realize they're not special because of their chosen sexual orientation.
<quoted text>
spoken like someone who lives in the "alabamy" part of Pa...between Pittsburgh and Philly
UCme

Manlius, NY

#49 Feb 23, 2010
It is very hard to talk about men who wear sequins&feathers in a serious discussion.The only one to take notice is Dick Buttons,who is always looking for that next cute buttonhole!
Leftatalbuquerqu e

Kingston, Canada

#50 Feb 23, 2010
USSA wrote:
Maybe when gay people realize they're not special because of their chosen sexual orientation.
<quoted text>
But that's the point - we are NOT "special". We are simply equal.

Now let legislation reflect that.

Since: Feb 07

Lansdale, PA

#51 Feb 23, 2010
Disgusted American wrote:
<quoted text>spoken like someone who lives in the "alabamy" part of Pa...between Pittsburgh and Philly
I thought that was Pennsyltucky ?

“Your Gods' Rules not mine.”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#52 Feb 23, 2010
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text>Scott Hamilton
ROTFLMMFAO

The bar is set might low then. My Gaydar tripped on him from the first time I saw him in his Dorothy Hamill doo. His ability to father children with a woman does NOT make him butch or straight but since he's claiming straight we'll let him run with that.

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