Male Figure Skating Highlights Homophobia and Sexism Canada

Feb 22, 2010 Full story: www.womanist-musings.com 218

Figure skating continues to be a contentious event at the Olympics, even though a new scoring system has been implemented. There will always be those who question the scoring but when critique is based on homophobia and sexism, clearly the debate has reached a level that needs to be discussed.In an interview with Salon, three time world medal champion Elvis Stojko, made clear that the greatest danger to figure skating is the feminization of male skaters. Unfortunately, Elvis is not the only person to cast aspirations of gay male figure skaters. Quebec sports casters Claude Mailhot and Alain Goldberg kicked down the door that Elvis opened

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“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

Since: Jun 08

Kempton, PA

#1 Feb 22, 2010
Figure skating has done a lot to combat long standing gay stereotypes.

Such as the one that gay men have good taste.

If some of the costumes in the men's figure skating were absurd from the getgo, some of the stuff I saw in the str8 couple ice dancing were like a parody of the Lawrence Welk Show....

There might be sexism and homophobia, but that doesn't mean I can't cringe when I see a skater mimicking a marionette cloyingly in the middle of his routine.

“Choose wisely!”

Since: Jul 07

Los Angeles

#2 Feb 22, 2010
In reading the article, it appears the issue lies with Elvis Stojko and a few others.

In watching mens figure skating at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics, one must be amused by the heterosexual men skaters trying to out-gay the gay men skaters. It seems more of a battle over who can be the most stereotypically flamboyant.

The author has it right however; why should this sport be considered a threat to anyone's masculinity? It's the most valid question asked.

Mr. Stojko is saying that gays don't belong in skating and that skating for men is ONLY about strength and power. Well Mr. Stojko has it wrong and clearly has issues with his own masculinity in his chosen sport.

Eric
Rev Ray T

Topeka, KS

#3 Feb 22, 2010
Donít you just love the way these hypocritical homophobes come off the wall with their crap. Then when they are called on it say,ďOh Iím sorry.Ē No they are not, they know full well the damage has been done and their would be apology is just a shallow cover-up. If they were truly sorry they would not have said it in the beginning. The only thing they are sorry about is that they got called on it. There is no change of mind or heart.
Disgusted American

Cranbury, NJ

#4 Feb 22, 2010
CRACKED ME UP ABOUT THE SPORTCASTERS...The 2 together could make a hand-bag from the combination of BOTH thier Double chins....they need to STFU, unless they can SKATE...which they can't. ...Im sure IF eating Doughnuts were a sport / or Farting they'd probably win.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#5 Feb 22, 2010
Funny how being "GAY" didn't hurt Brian Boitano.

These idiots need to understand that their are straight men who are just as EFFEMINATE in their appearance and that looking effeminate has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation.

Did Johnny Weir flamboyancy hurt his chances from getting a metal.........to some degree I believe it did.........however one is not suppose to be judged on sexual orientation.......but one's performance in the actual competition.

Maybe that is what threats men in general.......it's not that they are "GAY" but that they might be PERCEIVED as being "GAY".......and they just aren't secure enough in their own manhood.

JMO!!!

Since: Feb 07

Lansdale, PA

#6 Feb 22, 2010
"Goldberg replied that Weir's feminine style may reflect badly on other male figure skaters. "They'll think all the boys who skate will end up like him," he said."

On the Olympic Skating team? Sounds like something to aspire to.

“Your Gods' Rules not mine.”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#7 Feb 22, 2010
The apology from RDS was a bit back-handed:

"or those appearing discriminatory" Why is this little clause in there? It's to allow them to say "we had to apologize for what it sounded like to those people but there was no harm intended".

Why can't they just say "These guys were dimwits and will be muzzled in future"?
NW Hominid

Tacoma, WA

#8 Feb 22, 2010
They may be perceived as gay, but all the dames still flock to them - could be the makeup tips...
diane

Canada

#9 Feb 22, 2010
Rose T-H wrote:
Funny how being "GAY" didn't hurt Brian Boitano.
These idiots need to understand that their are straight men who are just as EFFEMINATE in their appearance and that looking effeminate has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation.
Did Johnny Weir flamboyancy hurt his chances from getting a metal.........to some degree I believe it did.........however one is not suppose to be judged on sexual orientation.......but one's performance in the actual competition.
Maybe that is what threats men in general.......it's not that they are "GAY" but that they might be PERCEIVED as being "GAY".......and they just aren't secure enough in their own manhood.
JMO!!!
i don't think Johnny's flamboyancy had anything to do with his score, he just didn't skate as well as the winners did. and i really don't think the Judges care if anybody is Gay or not, they Judge on performance.and it is ice skating not ice Jumping as some seem to think it should be.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#14 Feb 22, 2010
diane wrote:
<quoted text>i don't think Johnny's flamboyancy had anything to do with his score, he just didn't skate as well as the winners did. and i really don't think the Judges care if anybody is Gay or not, they Judge on performance.and it is ice skating not ice Jumping as some seem to think it should be.
You are entitled to your opinion......but if it didn't play at least a mall part.......why mention it?

Johnny Weir also skated beautifully in the free skate program and in my opinion.......should have at least won Bronze. I believed he skated better than the young man from Japan.

This will not deter Gay men from skating.......it will however give them reason to prove the critics wrong.
Net Nanny

Novato, CA

#15 Feb 22, 2010
What a crock! Weird was 8 points behind the Japanese skater going into the the free skate and ended up scoring 2/10ths behind him. He was always too far back to "metal" - lol.

Since: Jan 10

Columbus, OH

#17 Feb 22, 2010
Just proof that homophobia is alive an well in Canada (and around the world). When are not-gay people going to figure out that they aren't special just because of their sexual orientationl. Besides that I've met plenty of effeminate non-gay men and masculine non-gay women in my life. People are people and we're all equally viable.
BTW....Weir should have gotten the Bronze. Homphobic judges stole it from him.

Since: Jan 10

Columbus, OH

#18 Feb 22, 2010
I want to know when it's not going to be okay with people to discuss peoples Gayness in a joking manner in a newscast? This is very demeaning and uncalled for.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#19 Feb 22, 2010
Net Nanny wrote:
What a crock! Weird was 8 points behind the Japanese skater going into the the free skate and ended up scoring 2/10ths behind him. He was always too far back to "metal" - lol.
Gee stupid......don't need to click on your link.....I watched the finals......lol:)

You really are more of a NUT NANNY......or just a GNAT.......lol:)

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#21 Feb 22, 2010
The article is silly to point to Canada specifically; homophobia exists worldwide in organized sports.

And I rather suspect the broadcasters, though they certainly are homophobic, are correct. Straight men world over will not watch or patronize anything thought to be too gay. Look at an average opera house - the upper ranks are filled with gay men and people with an academic interest in opera and the lower are filled with those who come to be seen and not to see - or straight men dragged there by their wives who are obviously bored. Despite the fact that relatively few opera singers are LGBT.

It may even be something innate that separates gay men from straight men. I know a lot of gay men love organized sports, but I think a higher proportion than that of the straight male world do not. We like to watch figure skating because it is artistic as well as athletic.

Straight men as a generality are more goal driven, they like to watch who is going to come in first. Even homeowners do things differently - gay men who own houses tend to fill their yards with gardens; straight guys are obsessed with lawns - mowing them gives them a sense of accomplishment; a goal reached.

Perhaps I am wrong and all this is just do to training and social values, but I don't think that explains it all.

Since: Jan 10

Columbus, OH

#23 Feb 22, 2010
JohnInToronto wrote:
The article is silly to point to Canada specifically; homophobia exists worldwide in organized sports.
And I rather suspect the broadcasters, though they certainly are homophobic, are correct. Straight men world over will not watch or patronize anything thought to be too gay. Look at an average opera house - the upper ranks are filled with gay men and people with an academic interest in opera and the lower are filled with those who come to be seen and not to see - or straight men dragged there by their wives who are obviously bored. Despite the fact that relatively few opera singers are LGBT.
It may even be something innate that separates gay men from straight men. I know a lot of gay men love organized sports, but I think a higher proportion than that of the straight male world do not. We like to watch figure skating because it is artistic as well as athletic.
Straight men as a generality are more goal driven, they like to watch who is going to come in first. Even homeowners do things differently - gay men who own houses tend to fill their yards with gardens; straight guys are obsessed with lawns - mowing them gives them a sense of accomplishment; a goal reached.
Perhaps I am wrong and all this is just do to training and social values, but I don't think that explains it all.
You canít pigeon hole people. Everyone is different. Everyone has different interest and motivations. I donít think that sexual orientation has much to do with behavior as societal pressures would like you to believe. Put simply, we are who we are.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#24 Feb 22, 2010
Marram wrote:
<quoted text>
You canít pigeon hole people. Everyone is different. Everyone has different interest and motivations. I donít think that sexual orientation has much to do with behavior as societal pressures would like you to believe. Put simply, we are who we are.
I spoke in general and did not intend to imply that everyone followed the same pattern - more of a statistical trend.

Since: Jan 10

Columbus, OH

#29 Feb 22, 2010
JohnInToronto wrote:
<quoted text>
I spoke in general and did not intend to imply that everyone followed the same pattern - more of a statistical trend.
I didnít mean to upset you (if I did?). I just think generalized statements are based more on personal biases and not fact, and, do more harm than good.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#30 Feb 22, 2010
I'll be content when the pairs competitions include samesex pairs, as long as they don't just mimic the balletesque pas de deux of the mixed pairs. The artform will go in some radical new directions because of the body strength and center of balance differences.

I can hardly wait.
Thinking

Montezuma, IA

#32 Feb 22, 2010
The "powers that be" basically forced an American medal winner to leave he Olympics for conduct issues.....These are professional newscasters....I say kick them out of the city and take away their press credentials.

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