Lysacek Wins His First National Title

Lysacek Wins His First National Title

There are 31 comments on the The Associated Press story from Jan 28, 2007, titled Lysacek Wins His First National Title . In it, The Associated Press reports that:

Evan Lysacek dropped to his knees and knelt on the ice, shaking his head in wonder as the audience roared and stuffed animals rained down around him.

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“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#1 Jan 28, 2007
"He won the title with his first jump, a quad-triple combination, then spent the next four minutes reminding everybody how spectacular skating can be when it's done right.

'That was something,' he said.'It's hard to put into words how much I wanted to win this title." I knew the biggest thing he was concerned about was over

Go, Evan Lysacek go! Oh, the element of surprise, will happen from time to time... Yes, Evan, kicked that Wannbe Russian , Johnny "gigi boy" Weir's butt. He needs to be humbled and so does a lot of other proud bragging skaters. There is a season for everything for everyone. There are no exceptions! I love it, yeah, I doeth!
Kevin

Oakland, CA

#2 Feb 6, 2007
If Weir does his best and Evan as well, I don't see Evan beating Weir simply because Weir's component score will be better. With that said, I cannot see Weir medalling at the Worlds this year because he has been very inconsistant with his jumps. One would hope that Weir would stop chasing after money and put his time into practicing. Money will always come later.

As for Evan, good for him for winning the National. I certainly hope he does 2 quads at the worlds because without it, I cannot see him medalling if Joubert, Takahashi, and Oda skate to their best. Joubert has been quite consistant lately, so has Takahashi. So there is your gold and silver (Unless Joubert does 3 quads, I cannot see him beating Takahashi). Evan might have a chance beating Oda (who seems to like to do extra jumps for kicks). Of course getting a bronze at the world isn't bad but I thought Evan wants to be the best??

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#3 Feb 6, 2007
I hope Lysacek beat Weir. I believe he is more talent than Weir. Weir is arrognant as all out in attitudes.
Kevin

Oakland, CA

#4 Feb 7, 2007
Whether or not Lysacek beats Weir at the world is irrelevant because frankly he has Joubert, Takahashi, Oda and possibly Buttle to worry about. If I were to rank component scores, Takahashi, Buttle, Weir, Sanhdu is on a different level than Lysacek. If I were to rank technical standing, takahashi, oda, joubert all beat Lysacek. That's not counting next year when Lambiel and possible Plushy returns. It's an uphill battle for American skaters. The bottom line, unfortunately, is that Americans cannot medal in male or female category unless other people fails. How the landscape has changed since 1990s.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#5 Feb 8, 2007
I certainly do hope that "Plushy" Evgeni Plushenko and Stephan Lambiel do return to competition after their injuries and/or surgeries, as both are pretty young and deserve a chance to regain their titles. Why should the best retire if they still have it in them to compete. And it makes for a more interesting competition.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#6 Feb 8, 2007
Kevin wrote:
Whether or not Lysacek beats Weir at the world is irrelevant because frankly he has Joubert, Takahashi, Oda and possibly Buttle to worry about. If I were to rank component scores, Takahashi, Buttle, Weir, Sanhdu is on a different level than Lysacek. If I were to rank technical standing, takahashi, oda, joubert all beat Lysacek. That's not counting next year when Lambiel and possible Plushy returns. It's an uphill battle for American skaters. The bottom line, unfortunately, is that Americans cannot medal in male or female category unless other people fails. How the landscape has changed since 1990s.
You maybe right, but I think your perspections are wrong about Americans and others needing others to fail. Sarah Hughes did not do so at 2002 Olympics. Joubert maybe will beat them all. I still believe Lysacek will out medal, Weir. It seems like somone is coming in on the conservation.
Kevin

Oakland, CA

#7 Feb 8, 2007
Sarah Hughes did well or shall I say did better technically among all the top ladies during Olympics year(see Skate America). Hence when everyone failed, she succeeded. Had everyone skated to their best, Sarah would not have been looking at Gold at the Olympics period. We all know that. Same analogy goes for Worlds this year except neither Lysacek nor Weir has more technical demanding program when compare to Joubert, Takahashi, or Oda. Therefore, Lysacek is not even in the same shoes as Sarah was when she won her Olympic gold. Unless either Weir or Lysacek put in two quad and everyone else fails their quads, there is no way for Americans to win gold or even silver. Maybe bronze. Again, who cares if Lysacek out medal Weir or not. If everyone skated to their best, neither Lysacek nor Weir will get any medal. If Plushy or Lambiel comes back next year, the prospect of medalling is even more slim for Americans.

If what your saying is that you believe Lysacek will rank higher than Weir at the Worlds, then you are likely right since Weir has been having a terrible year (owing much of that to constant touring instead of practicing). If both Weir and Lysacek are to skate to their optimal, Weir has Lysacek beat simply because Weir is more musical than Lysacek. Plain and simple.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#8 Feb 8, 2007
Yes, you are correct that without those Quads jumps Americans are not growing to come up to the others. Joubert is on fire, it seems. I frankly hope, Weir never successfully complete a Quad in compeition, because he has a false sense of security, with I skate like a Russian mentality. I find it very repelling, indeed. I hope Lysacek makes cry again. Kurt Browing, of Canadian was the first man to do a Quad in compietion in the ninety Worlds. There are still move for surprise, as nothing in written in stone, or have been seen through a crystal-balls. I still believe in the element of surprise, myself. It all comes down to who can skate their best atthe given time, and sometimes it is not the most favorable, whether their fail or not. you stated some good points.
Kevin wrote:
Sarah Hughes did well or shall I say did better technically among all the top ladies during Olympics year(see Skate America). Hence when everyone failed, she succeeded. Had everyone skated to their best, Sarah would not have been looking at Gold at the Olympics period. We all know that. Same analogy goes for Worlds this year except neither Lysacek nor Weir has more technical demanding program when compare to Joubert, Takahashi, or Oda. Therefore, Lysacek is not even in the same shoes as Sarah was when she won her Olympic gold. Unless either Weir or Lysacek put in two quad and everyone else fails their quads, there is no way for Americans to win gold or even silver. Maybe bronze. Again, who cares if Lysacek out medal Weir or not. If everyone skated to their best, neither Lysacek nor Weir will get any medal. If Plushy or Lambiel comes back next year, the prospect of medalling is even more slim for Americans.
If what your saying is that you believe Lysacek will rank higher than Weir at the Worlds, then you are likely right since Weir has been having a terrible year (owing much of that to constant touring instead of practicing). If both Weir and Lysacek are to skate to their optimal, Weir has Lysacek beat simply because Weir is more musical than Lysacek. Plain and simple.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#9 Feb 8, 2007
Yes, you are correct that without those Quads jumps Americans are not growing to come up to the others. Joubert is on fire, it seems. I frankly hope, Weir never successfully complete a Quad in compeition, because he has a false sense of security, with infamous "I skate like a Russian" mentality. I find it very repelling, indeed. I hope Lysacek makes HIM cry again. Kurt Browing, of Canadian, was the first man to do a Quad in compietion in the ninety Worlds. There are still ROOM for ELEMENT OF surprise, as nothing in written in stones, or have been seen through a crystal-ball. I still believe in the element of surprise, myself. It all comes down to who can skate their best atthe given time, and sometimes it is not the most favorable, whether their fail or not. you stated some good points.

Kevin wrote:
Sarah Hughes did well or shall I say did better technically among all the top ladies during Olympics year(see Skate America). Hence when everyone failed, she succeeded. Had everyone skated to their best, Sarah would not have been looking at Gold at the Olympics period. We all know that. Same analogy goes for Worlds this year except neither Lysacek nor Weir has more technical demanding program when compare to Joubert, Takahashi, or Oda. Therefore, Lysacek is not even in the same shoes as Sarah was when she won her Olympic gold. Unless either Weir or Lysacek put in two quad and everyone else fails their quads, there is no way for Americans to win gold or even silver. Maybe bronze. Again, who cares if Lysacek out medal Weir or not. If everyone skated to their best, neither Lysacek nor Weir will get any medal. If Plushy or Lambiel comes back next year, the prospect of medalling is even more slim for Americans.
If what your saying is that you believe Lysacek will rank higher than Weir at the Worlds, then you are likely right since Weir has been having a terrible year (owing much of that to constant touring instead of practicing). If both Weir and Lysacek are to skate to their optimal, Weir has Lysacek beat simply because Weir is more musical than Lysacek. Plain and simple. I do not know hapened to you post above here.

“Figure Sk8er”

Since: Feb 07

Chelyabinsk

#10 Feb 14, 2007
Oh, wow, Evan landed a quad-triple. I am completely dazed, huh? What about some credit for Plushenko who landed a quad when he was 14? Jeez, these American and other European skaters have some serious catching up to do.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#11 Feb 14, 2007
Sashenka wrote:
Oh, wow, Evan landed a quad-triple. I am completely dazed, huh? What about some credit for Plushenko who landed a quad when he was 14? Jeez, these American and other European skaters have some serious catching up to do.
I do not think this forum is about Plushenko, your home boy. Yes, it is going out sooner than I think. Who care if he was 14 when he did a Quad. News flash, dearest, the Russians are not the first to do every move in figure skating; hint, Kurt Browning, of Canada, was the first to take the sport in the Quad direction and Elvis Stokjo was the second to do one, who was also from Canada. Who is called the "Quad king", it is not, Plushenko, but Timothy Goboel, of the United states. It is not allabout the Russians or the Americans. In your case, as you are proving, the Russians. These Americans, and what are you, honey. Sometimes, it is all in the phrasing. LOL! I am picking up your flavor.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#12 Feb 14, 2007
Sashenka wrote:
Oh, wow, Evan landed a quad-triple. I am completely dazed, huh? What about some credit for Plushenko who landed a quad when he was 14? Jeez, these American and other European skaters have some serious catching up to do.
Your are right. Plushenko has done so many quad-triple's a quad -triple-doubles that someone doing a quad is really old news and hardly noticed. For that matter Plushenko did several of them in each program. I suspect that is why the quad combos were limited, so others would have a chance.

Hope Plushenko comes back to competition soon. I miss his fire on the ice and his personality.

“Figure Sk8er”

Since: Feb 07

Chelyabinsk

#13 Feb 14, 2007
Eddie07 wrote:
I do not think this forum is about Plushenko, your home boy. Yes, it is going out sooner than I think. Who care if he was 14 when he did a Quad. News flash, dearest, the Russians are not the first to do every move in figure skating; hint, Kurt Browning, of Canada, was the first to take the sport in the Quad direction and Elvis Stokjo was the second to do one, who was also from Canada. Who is called the "Quad king", it is not, Plushenko, but Timothy Goboel, of the United states. It is not allabout the Russians or the Americans. In your case, as you are proving, the Russians. These Americans, and what are you, honey. Sometimes, it is all in the phrasing. LOL! I am picking up your flavor.
If Timothy Goebel is so exquisite, how come PLUSHENKO got the silver in the 2002 Olympics, not your 'quad king'? And Alexei Yagudin, who is also Russian, got Gold? And who gave Goebel the 'quad king' nickname? The Americans! Since he's one of the few of them who could do some quads. I'm not being biased or anything, but that is an utter fact.

Anyway, I hope Evgeny comes back next season, too. And not because he's Russian, Eddie, but because he's a talented, master-class skater who I enjoy watching.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#14 Feb 14, 2007
Sashenka wrote:
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If Timothy Goebel is so exquisite, how come PLUSHENKO got the silver in the 2002 Olympics, not your 'quad king'? And Alexei Yagudin, who is also Russian, got Gold? And who gave Goebel the 'quad king' nickname? The Americans! Since he's one of the few of them who could do some quads. I'm not being biased or anything, but that is an utter fact.
Anyway, I hope Evgeny comes back next season, too. And not because he's Russian, Eddie, but because he's a talented, master-class skater who I enjoy watching.
Did you read anything that I stated. I never said that Goebel was exqusisite, but you stated something about Plushenko not being mention in this forum and I told you. Timothy Goebel has been known to do more Quad in a program than any skater, and that include, both Plushemko and Yagudin. THAT IS WHY HE IS KNOWN THE " QUAD KING". His trouble was triples and not Quads. Why do you have to explain yourself to me, Russian. Yes, I know it is hard for you to root for anyone but Russians, because most of you all are full of yourselves. I am picking up on your flavor. Once again, it is not allabout you, Russians

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#15 Feb 14, 2007
This forum is about Evan Lysacek, is it not? Not Plushenko or Yagudin

“Figure Sk8er”

Since: Feb 07

Chelyabinsk

#16 Feb 14, 2007
Eddie07 wrote:
Did you read anything that I stated. I never said that Goebel was exqusisite, but you stated something about Plushenko not being mention in this forum and I told you. Timothy Goebel has been known to do more Quad in a program than any skater, and that include, both Plushemko and Yagudin. THAT IS WHY HE IS KNOWN THE " QUAD KING". His trouble was triples and not Quads. Why do you have to explain yourself to me, Russian. Yes, I know it is hard for you to root for anyone but Russians, because most of you all are full of yourselves. I am picking up on your flavor. Once again, it is not allabout you, Russians
Gee, you must really have fought in the Cold War or something. What you said is not true; Evgeny is not the only for whom I 'root' for. I love Sasha Cohen, Kimmie Meissner, and Johnny Weir as well, and I wish all the best for them. You will find many Americans who love Plushenko as much as me, no doubt. Im not taking your racist messages seriously, so go on all you want, I could care less.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#17 Feb 14, 2007
Sashenka wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, you must really have fought in the Cold War or something. What you said is not true; Evgeny is not the only for whom I 'root' for. I love Sasha Cohen, Kimmie Meissner, and Johnny Weir as well, and I wish all the best for them. You will find many Americans who love Plushenko as much as me, no doubt. I�m not taking your racist messages seriously, so go on all you want, I could care less.
Honey, you root for Plushenko, because he is Russian and that is strong in your cultural to do so. I am prejudice, because I tell it like it is. You just think that you, Russians are better and unbeatable and invinicible. Do you believe in the phoenix myth? LOL! I do not take your bias comments seriously, either.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#18 Feb 14, 2007
Sashenka wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, you must really have fought in the Cold War or something. What you said is not true; Evgeny is not the only for whom I 'root' for. I love Sasha Cohen, Kimmie Meissner, and Johnny Weir as well, and I wish all the best for them. You will find many Americans who love Plushenko as much as me, no doubt. Im not taking your racist messages seriously, so go on all you want, I could care less.
Careful Sashenka,

The stalker beserks at the thought of anyone who does not agree with him. Your words will be misinterpreted, misrepresented and you will be told what you really thing and mean and be accused of saying things you never said or did. That is because it doesn't matter what you say, it only matters what spin he puts on your words.

I know that many Americans and people around the world love Plushenko, and all of us like all kinds of skaters, but that is beside the point because you are not spouting off the party line according to the Stalker.

“Figure Sk8er”

Since: Feb 07

Chelyabinsk

#19 Feb 14, 2007
Are you blind? R-E-A-D:

I love Sasha Cohen, Kimmie Meissner, and Johnny Weir as well, and I wish all the best for them.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#20 Feb 14, 2007
Sashenka wrote:
Are you blind? R-E-A-D:
I love Sasha Cohen, Kimmie Meissner, and Johnny Weir as well, and I wish all the best for them.
Can you speak for yourself or you a dummy doll tat needs a hand in your back to seem like you communicating. I a, speaking to you and a Nincompoop dummy is coming between in our conversation. It is wrong when I do it, though. Are you blind? r e a d me post.

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