Joubert Takes Lead in Men's Skating

Joubert Takes Lead in Men's Skating

There are 40 comments on the WQXI-AM Atlanta story from Mar 21, 2007, titled Joubert Takes Lead in Men's Skating. In it, WQXI-AM Atlanta reports that:

By SALVATORE ZANCA Wednesday, March 21, 2007 France's Brian Joubert took the lead in the men's event while other top contenders fell and stumbled in a tension-filled short program Wednesday at the World Figure ...

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“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#1 Mar 21, 2007
The students of the Russian coaches, Brian
Joubert of France, Jeffry Buttle of Canada and Daisuke Takahaski took the top three spots in the short program at the worlds, proving that a long-term training with Russian coaches, sure does produce results.

Jouberts training with Alexi Yagudin and another Russian coach seems to keep him on top as he was the only one to perform a quad triple.
And Buttle has certainly improved a lot thanks to his Russian Coach, Rafael Artunian. Artunian in an interview in 2002 stated that Russians would never lose unless they lost all of their coaches. The very next year Artunian was coaching Michelle Kwan, well for at least a year, and then he was off to help the grinning Buttle.

The Japanese have long-ago graduated from their Japanese and Canadaian coaches to Russian coaches and Daisuke Takahashi grabbed third.
Artunian will once again be standing and grinning in the kiss and cry as he watches the performance of one of the Asadas as she skates for Japan.
Yes indeed, Russian coaches are keeping Russian skating at their usual highpoint.

Too bad they are holding the hands of the world's skaters, and have neglected Russian skating for a decade and a half.

I guess the generation gap has finally caught up with the really good skaters from Russia, not having the experience or training to compete strongly, and the next generation of Russian skaters being 12-14 years of age being too young to go to the worlds.

I guess someone should thank Rafael Artunian and the other Russian coaches for understanding that what they are doing has changed the winners in the winners circle.

I guess somebody is thanking their lucky stars for you Rafael and Galina and Marina and Nikolai. But it isn't me. Happy skating.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#2 Mar 21, 2007
The wannabe Russian, Johnny Weir, did not do, well! What a pity it is! Short progam is not the end!

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#3 Mar 21, 2007
Here goes another blog forum that will be changed to focus on the the blog forum "Russian Dominance may be in Sight". For the fact of the matter is, many are obsessively changed to be this subject! I hope someone be dominant enough to bring it back to Joubert success and talent and not his/their coach Russian nationalities.

Blogs as such as I have mentioned, they are designed to make others envy /be jeolous of Russians. Read between the lines!

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#4 Mar 21, 2007
And everywhere that Stefanya went, the stalker.. .........

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#5 Mar 21, 2007
To Sk8r Girl,

Thanks to the Russian coaches, the level of skating in the world has been raised so much that nobody even world champions can be assured of Victory year after year.

Remember Johnny Weir's remarkable skating. He went to Russia to be coached by Tatiana Tarasova and his skating improved dramatically. I don't know who is coach is now.

But France'sBrian Joubert, Canada's Jeffery Buttle and Japan's Daisuke Takahashi all have Russian coaches and they are sitting in 1,2,3 at the momemnt. Only Brian Joubert managed a Quad triple.,,

Keep checking out the top 6 of each of the divisions of figure skating and see how many of them have Russian coaches. It is said that at competitions, some Russian coaches like Nikoai, Morozov, and Igor Spielband don't even leave the arena because their students are in the top ranks.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#6 Mar 21, 2007
So, go find your own forum and spout off with your garbage,.

And everywhere that Stefanya went, the stalker.......

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#7 Mar 21, 2007
To Sk8rGirl,

Congratulations to Johnny Weir for getting fourth at the World Figure Skating Championships this year. He did beat Evan Lysachek who ended up in fifth. We should congratulate both of them for beating Stephan Lambiel who ended up in sixth, in this tough new world of figure skating, in which everyone is tough to beat.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#8 Mar 21, 2007
To Sk8r Girl,

I know that you are grown up enough to give credit where credit is due. In the winners circle of Men's figure skating the top three are being coached by Russians and Johhny Weir in fourth was coached by a Russian but now I don't know who his coach is.

Let's both be grown ups as I know we both, are, No Americans got 1,2,3 but no Russians either. But I know that both of us are grown up enough to understand that according to today's ISU rules, it is the RUSSIAN COACHES WHO are the REAL WINNERS OF FIGURE SKATING, shadow figures that they are and considering they are always there in the background but not accepting medals.

Considering the fervor of Russian coaches who are determined to make winners of all the world while forgetting about Russian skaters, I think in all fairness and in the spirit of rewarding excellence, I think we should give medals to the winning coaches, and give them a medals ceremony right after the skaters get theirs complete with flags and anthems.

Boy would those Russian coaches rake in the medals. Would they be able to carry their medals off the floor at the end of the world's. They might get a neck injury.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#9 Mar 21, 2007
I really do love figure skating, I especially love Russian style figure skating, but I want to see some Russians on the podium.

How selfish of me, Russian influence is everywhere in figure skating. That should be enough, for me. A person shouldn't get so greedy, expecting Russian Figure skaters to be represented in the winners circle so they could be singing KUMBAYA too.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#10 Mar 21, 2007
My goodness does any blogger think that ?/she owns a forum, just because?/she comment on it first? Obviously,?/she does not; since,?/she does other the same way! Disgorging Russian Manifesto propaganda is ?/she does best! Boy, some cannot LIVE WITH RESULTS; apparently, he/? makes up an award for Russian coaches!

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#11 Mar 21, 2007
So much blog space, so little independence to get ones' own.

To Sk8r Girl,

With the difference in the time zone between Japan and the US. We should be getting more results soon. wonder how the ladies will do and of course the ice dance. Can't wait to hear what you think.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#12 Mar 21, 2007
THIS BLOG FORUM IS OWNED BY....... Topix.net ! So, I treat it like the ones that I have commented on first! Should one want respect that ?/she does not give?
The answer is an OUTRRIGHT, NO!

I guess, Jourbert is Plushenko rival, now/when he comes back. Are Russians their own rivals? One can really get confused about it all; since, Russians are presented invincible in many blogs. I hope Kimmie Meisner win GOLD, again!!!!
despina

Athens, Greece

#13 Mar 22, 2007
I may have never set foot on ice but I think I can tell when someone is talented!Brian is one of the best(I'm not saying he is THE best).I really enjoy watcing him skate...he is so unique!!
Congratulations to you Brian...you deserved this gold medal more than anyone else!!!!

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#14 Mar 22, 2007
despina wrote:
I may have never set foot on ice but I think I can tell when someone is talented!Brian is one of the best(I'm not saying he is THE best).I really enjoy watcing him skate...he is so unique!!
Congratulations to you Brian...you deserved this gold medal more than anyone else!!!!
Yes Despina, he definitly was the best this year. But he can thank his Russian Coaches, including the Great Alexi Yagudin for coaching him over the past four or five years. He has learned a lot from Yagudin to make his quad combinations consistent and Yagudin has definitely helped him with his footwork. Remember how good Yagudin's footwork was.

Sadly, the Russian Coaches are so busy coaching the world that they haven't gotten around to developing Russian skaters, but they will be back. It takes time to train a skater, but I doubt that Russian skaters will be gone for long.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#15 Mar 22, 2007
Thanks to his talent mostly and NOT his coach's nationalistiy
despina wrote:
I may have never set foot on ice but I think I can tell when someone is talented!Brian is one of the best(I'm not saying he is THE best).I really enjoy watcing him skate...he is so unique!!
Congratulations to you Brian...you deserved this gold medal more than anyone else!!!!
n

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#16 Mar 22, 2007
Stefanya wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes Despina, he definitly was the best this year. But he can thank his Russian Coaches, including the Great Alexi Yagudin for coaching him over the past four or five years. He has learned a lot from Yagudin to make his quad combinations consistent and Yagudin has definitely helped him with his footwork. Remember how good Yagudin's footwork was.
Sadly, the Russian Coaches are so busy coaching the world that they haven't gotten around to developing Russian skaters, but they will be back. It takes time to train a skater, but I doubt that Russian skaters will be gone for long.
Yes Despina thanks to the RUSSIAN COACHES, WHO EVERYONE KNOWS ARE THE BEST. If they weren't Joubert would have stuck with his french coach or got an AMerican one, but he wanted a Russian one and has had several.

There are no less than 186 Russian coaches in the US. Reason would tell one that they are coaching someone, and it isn't Russians. Other skaters travel here and the Russian coaches go to other places as well to coach the worlds skaters, inspite of the bitter and jealous words some spout.

“All MEN ARE VINCIBLE!!!!!!!! !!”

Since: Jan 07

SomeWhere in Georgia

#17 Mar 22, 2007
One hundred-eighty-six Russian caoches were freed to leave a country that had them enslaved to do what their GOVERNMENT SAID and DiD to them. You see, I told you this is all what some opining really is about some wants the rest of the world to be envious and jeolous of Russians.

The world people have not need to be envious or jeolous of anyone nationality. Some is just full idoltic arrogance. Envy and jeolous are immature traits!! Sure one is not a Russian-American!
French skater

France

#18 Mar 23, 2007
Brian Joubert is no more coached by a russian trainer. He ended his partnership with Morozov right after the Olympics because Morozov had too many students and not enough time for Brian. His new coach is frenchman jean-Christophe Simond, former European champion. Last summer Brian visited Kurt Browning who helped him with his choregraphy.
Sk8r Girl

Bronx, NY

#19 Mar 23, 2007
Stefanya wrote:
So much blog space, so little independence to get ones' own.
To Sk8r Girl,
With the difference in the time zone between Japan and the US. We should be getting more results soon. wonder how the ladies will do and of course the ice dance. Can't wait to hear what you think.
I am on pins and nedles. I am rooting for the US, preferably Kimmie

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#20 Mar 23, 2007
French skater wrote:
Brian Joubert is no more coached by a russian trainer. He ended his partnership with Morozov right after the Olympics because Morozov had too many students and not enough time for Brian. His new coach is frenchman jean-Christophe Simond, former European champion. Last summer Brian visited Kurt Browning who helped him with his choregraphy.
Oh that is good news. But dear Brian still has to thank his Russian coaches for all of the years that they helped him and trained him. So he finally got himself a French Coach and Canadian coach/choreographerl just in time to deny all of tha thelp from RUssians just in case he won. Too bad he couldn't have had one four years ago and then you could tout him as the truly French champion.

Joubert would not be where he is today without all of that help from YAGUDIN AND HIs other RUSSIAN COACHES.

You see Johann and Russian coaches. What did I tell you. They will use your expertise and the new "internationalism" pushed by the ISU and then when they hit that winners circle and they stare at that flag then suddenly it's VIVA LA FRANCE and aren't we FRENCH GREAT and RUSSIAN COACH WHO????

Russian coaches I would not have abandoned the training of the Russian skaters for this bunch in ingrates. And the French have already forgotten that they "stole" an ice dancer from Russia in order to win an ice dance medal for LA FRANCE.

Personally, Joubert can grin all he wants and the French can deny all they want, but Joubert would not be where he is today without all of that help from Russians.

Personally, I like my Russian style jumps and footwork performed by Russians so I would not spend my money to see Joubert in an ice show and wouldn't waste the time to watch him or others in the world like him on TV.

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