Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182546 Mar 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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That definition violates the 14th Amendment, so it should be changed.
No,it shouldn't. Now, you must supply ample and compelling reason for change. Get about it.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182547 Mar 4, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>In June 2005, Jeffs was charged with sexual assault on a minor and with conspiracy to commit sexual misconduct with a minor for allegedly arranging, in April 2001, a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old first cousin, Allen. The girl, Elissa Wall (then only known as "Jane Doe IV") testified that she begged "Uncle Rulon" to let her wait until she was older, or choose another man for her. Rulon Jeffs was apparently "sympathetic", but Warren Jeffs was not, and she was forced to go through with the marriage. The 14-year-old alleged that her new husband raped her repeatedly and that she repeatedly miscarried. She eventually left Allen and the community. Jeffs faced the above charges in Mohave County, Arizona. In July 2005, the Arizona Attorney General's office distributed wanted posters offering $10,000 for information leading to Jeffs' arrest and conviction.
Condemn a whole group of people due to the actions of a very few. NICE!

Some homosexuals are bad too. Does that mean same sex marriage should be illegal, dummy?

When I talk of allowing polygamy, I am of course not talking about allowing crime. We have perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance of poly conjures up. Prosecute criminals to the full extent of the law. Don't prosecute people for their choice of family structure and or who they love.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182548 Mar 4, 2013
Randy-Rock-Hudson wrote:
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And, the monkey flings more irrelevant feces.....poo, for all.
It won't ever talk to my face. It slanders me in the third person. Nice!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182549 Mar 4, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>In June 2005, Jeffs was charged with sexual assault on a minor and with conspiracy to commit sexual misconduct with a minor for allegedly arranging, in April 2001, a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old first cousin, Allen. The girl, Elissa Wall (then only known as "Jane Doe IV") testified that she begged "Uncle Rulon" to let her wait until she was older, or choose another man for her. Rulon Jeffs was apparently "sympathetic", but Warren Jeffs was not, and she was forced to go through with the marriage. The 14-year-old alleged that her new husband raped her repeatedly and that she repeatedly miscarried. She eventually left Allen and the community. Jeffs faced the above charges in Mohave County, Arizona. In July 2005, the Arizona Attorney General's office distributed wanted posters offering $10,000 for information leading to Jeffs' arrest and conviction.
Seems like you have that blurb memorized. Always with the 14 year olds eh, Jizzy? You're a real creep.
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182550 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
I just have to interrupt here for a minute and ask, what kind of loser would sit around obsessively rigging the judge-its over and over again?
Can anyone imagine what kind of loser would do that?
Jizzy? Dan? Bill? Xavier?
YUK!YUK!YUK!
May I inquire as to the reason, sir, that you omitted to list Chongos name on your list of chumps ?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182551 Mar 4, 2013
phaines wrote:
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you wont see me marching around with a picket sign , but I voted yes for them to marrie..mostly because I dont care if they marrie...:)
Me too.
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182552 Mar 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Dummy, I didn't say anything about equal outcomes. I'm talking about equal rights. A man has the right to marry a woman, a woman should have that same right. I doubt there will be an equal outcome, as many women married to women as there are men married to women, but a woman should have that equal right. And vice versa.
Why are you against equal right's?(LOL)
There you go again, with the idiotic drivel about what SHOULD be, as opposed to what is.

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#182553 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Condemn a whole group of people due to the actions of a very few. NICE!
Some homosexuals are bad too. Does that mean same sex marriage should be illegal, dummy?
When I talk of allowing polygamy, I am of course not talking about allowing crime. We have perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance of poly conjures up. Prosecute criminals to the full extent of the law. Don't prosecute people for their choice of family structure and or who they love.
Is it isolated? Frank, you might want to look deeper into it. There are many countries around the globe, where polygamy is promoted. You might want to dig a bit deeper.
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182554 Mar 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Whatever, b!tch.
Yes, that's very "insightful and thoughtful", stuff of intellectual discourse...It's easy to see that you are the true brains of your side...With smack like that, who needs any rational argument from you, as if...
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182556 Mar 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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LOL! If you only knew! I pass gas that is better educated than you are.
Again, thanks for the laugh at your expense.
No,you don't. But why don't you resort to another street-level insult? It seems to be winning the day...for you.
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182557 Mar 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Another response from akpilot that lacks any rational retort.
Am I beaten? No doubt about it.
You go, Chongo.....you go....
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182558 Mar 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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LOL.
If you only knew...
(Whispers) "But, we do..." You make all sorts of baseless claims about higher education. And you resort to "street" when you are unable to fake your way through these posts.
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182559 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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I believe Rose has two degrees. How many do you have?
Lies, from rose. And your sucker ass believes them...
Randy-Rock-Hudso n

Brookfield, WI

#182560 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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I believe Rose has two degrees. How many do you have?
LOL From where? Mackie-Brown University, or ITT Tech?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182561 Mar 4, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Is it isolated? Frank, you might want to look deeper into it. There are many countries around the globe, where polygamy is promoted. You might want to dig a bit deeper.
There are perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance conjures up regarding polygamy. Use them. The crime you keep fantasizing about is not polygamy, it is child abuse.

If some people in same sex marriages commit crimes do you advocate banning same sex marriage too?
RaveViews

Covina, CA

#182562 Mar 4, 2013
It's true Racists pigs live in West Covina, California some are on it's city council and other's on on their commissions.

One of them likes to write racists filled articles for a local newspaper, sgvexaminer.com this has been his favorite method of promoting his racists views.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182563 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
There are perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance conjures up regarding polygamy. Use them. The crime you keep fantasizing about is not polygamy, it is child abuse.
If some people in same sex marriages commit crimes do you advocate banning same sex marriage too?
The difference is, the most visible proponents of Polygamy, USE polygamy as their excuse to commit these crimes against young women and children.

I am not saying it is correct that all polygamy should be associated because of this issue, it is not correct.

I am saying this is an image obstacle that needs to be overcome before progress can be made on this subject, as it will be near impossible to gain public support until there are more responsible people in the forefront of the issue, the imminent overturn of Prop 8 will have no effect on that part of the issue.

You do realize that same sex marriage would not have gained the progress it has without widespread public support, right or wrong... that is indeed the case, it needed, and had the support.

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#182564 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
There are perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance conjures up regarding polygamy. Use them. The crime you keep fantasizing about is not polygamy, it is child abuse.
If some people in same sex marriages commit crimes do you advocate banning same sex marriage too?
Polygamy's Dirty Little Secret

At first glance you may be inclined to say. So what? As long as they're adults and consenting, than it is their business. What is not seen at first glance is the dirty little secret of polygamy.

Polygamy historically leads to rape, and child abuse. Even in the U.S.A. when religious groups adopt a doctrine of polygamy it eventually leads to slavery, or its close cousin, indentured servitude.

The dirtiest, of all the dirty little secrets is; It is the children who become pawns in the game.

http://www.google.com/url...

Child abuse and polygamy - polygamy and child abuse: Are these words synonymous? It certainly would appear so, based on the preliminary information obtained by officials following the apprehension of 463 children from the Yearning for Zion Ranch in Eldorado, Texas.

Reports indicate that of the 53 underage girls, 31 have had children or are currently pregnant. Two of these underage girls have had 3 children, and 6 of these girls have had 2 children. While in custody of the state, one of the girls gave birth to a boy.

In addition to this disturbing information, reports indicate that at least 41 of the children have or have had broken bones.

There is also an ongoing investigation into the possible sexual abuse of boys.

http://www.google.com/url...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182565 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
The difference is, the most visible proponents of Polygamy, USE polygamy as their excuse to commit these crimes against young women and children.
I am not saying it is correct that all polygamy should be associated because of this issue, it is not correct.
I am saying this is an image obstacle that needs to be overcome before progress can be made on this subject, as it will be near impossible to gain public support until there are more responsible people in the forefront of the issue, the imminent overturn of Prop 8 will have no effect on that part of the issue.
You do realize that same sex marriage would not have gained the progress it has without widespread public support, right or wrong... that is indeed the case, it needed, and had the support.
Yes. You do realize same sex marriage had it's detractors just like you describe are against poly marriage?

And you do realize public support was not very common in the early days of SSM just a few short years ago?

You do realize how fast public support can come by eliminating ignorance and prejudice with education?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182566 Mar 4, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Polygamy's Dirty Little Secret
At first glance you may be inclined to say. So what? As long as they're adults and consenting, than it is their business. What is not seen at first glance is the dirty little secret of polygamy.
Polygamy historically leads to rape, and child abuse. Even in the U.S.A. when religious groups adopt a doctrine of polygamy it eventually leads to slavery, or its close cousin, indentured servitude.
The dirtiest, of all the dirty little secrets is; It is the children who become pawns in the game.
http://www.google.com/url...
Child abuse and polygamy - polygamy and child abuse: Are these words synonymous? It certainly would appear so, based on the preliminary information obtained by officials following the apprehension of 463 children from the Yearning for Zion Ranch in Eldorado, Texas.
Reports indicate that of the 53 underage girls, 31 have had children or are currently pregnant. Two of these underage girls have had 3 children, and 6 of these girls have had 2 children. While in custody of the state, one of the girls gave birth to a boy.
In addition to this disturbing information, reports indicate that at least 41 of the children have or have had broken bones.
There is also an ongoing investigation into the possible sexual abuse of boys.
http://www.google.com/url...
There are perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance conjures up regarding polygamy. Use them. The crime you keep fantasizing about is not polygamy, it is child abuse.

If some people in same sex marriages commit crimes do you advocate banning same sex marriage too?

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