Armed Killings Cost Nations Billions

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A global survey suggests the United States leads the world in economic loss from deaths caused by armed crime.
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HILLARY Clinton

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#43
Sep 12, 2008
 
CandL wrote:
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Gee,....
How many of those crime "victims" do you think were selected for assault because they were able to protect themselves?
I'm thinking NONE.
Criminals chose their victims the same way that any predator would.
Avoid the ones that can take care of themselves......always go for the "easy" target.
Go ahead and call 911 AFTER the criminal is through with you.
When you only have seconds to respond, the cops are only minutes away.
FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.2

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.â€8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9
MIA

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Sep 12, 2008
 
HILLARY Clinton wrote:
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FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.2
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.â€8
FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month sales restrictions.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9
Although I like to reserve judgement until I get all the facts, I am going to take a shot in the dark and say that you think Obama's position on firearms is sh@t.

Since: May 08

Long Beach, CA

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Sep 12, 2008
 
Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>What Planet are you from ?
With all the violence going on with man against his fellow man, I would have to say "planet of the apes!"

Since: May 08

Long Beach, CA

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Sep 12, 2008
 
John wrote:
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I suggest moving all Muslims to San Franciso, keep some gays alive to clean up the headless corpses.
Your SICK ! Get some help before you go postal !

Since: May 08

Long Beach, CA

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Sep 12, 2008
 
Bonnie wrote:
LMBO Reson hahahahaha !! I do share your sentiments exactly on the death penalty. It's far worse for a man to be caged for the rest of his life than to be put to sleep sweetly in 15 years.
There is also a case out of Texas, gee go figure, where a man who got the death penalty may have been a victim himself. The judge and the prosecutor were having an affair at the time of his trial. He was scheduled to die Tuesday and the hearing about the affair was originally scheduled for Thursday, two days later. Pretty nice huh. They stayed the execution and had the hearings under oath Monday and Tuesday.
Well, he's either black, brown, red, yellow or poor. Justice in this contry comes in atleast 4 flavors, one for the rich, one for the poor, one for the pretty and one for the ugly.
MIA

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#48
Sep 12, 2008
 
Now now, one mustn't drop acid and post.

Since: May 08

Long Beach, CA

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Sep 12, 2008
 
MIA wrote:
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It may not deter crime, but it sure as hell makes the victims family feel a helluva lot better when the guy is lifeless.
If that's the case, then the victim's family is no better than the murderer. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth is nothing more than vengeance. And wanting vegeance is just another example of living on the planet of the apes.
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Sep 12, 2008
 

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Not saying it is right. Just providing a different view. If you had ever lost someone to a criminal, then you would feel differently. I have had to interview many families that just lost a daughter, mother, son or father to a random senseless act of violence and you can't imagine the horror the family goes through. It is easy to be liberal and critical when all you have ever done was look at life through the glass of your ivory tower.

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#51
Sep 12, 2008
 
Bonnie wrote:
DUHo1 obviously doesn't know where San Fran is on the map. I think he/she means San Diego should be part of Mexico lol.
IMO, DUHo1 doesn't know how to spell "homosexual," and just wanted to say something bigoted about Frisco. Sandy eggo didn't even enter his mind.
Fight to win

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#52
Sep 12, 2008
 
Alec Berg wrote:
Your answer is incorrect. Do you think the thugs that are shooting each other care that other guy is armed....NO. Do you think the gang bangers who shoot police care that the cops have guns....NO
Of course they do. That is why they resort to drive-bys and ambushes. They also avoid the police.

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Sep 12, 2008
 
MIA wrote:
Now now, one mustn't drop acid and post.
I have a sweet little calico kitty named Mia. Well she aint little anymore. I saw her at petsmart a couple years ago, she was as skinny as a string and in need of a home. So I adopted her, took her home and let her eat all she wanted, I always keep her bowl full. She's chubby now, not real fat cause she runs through the house as fast as her little legs will carry her and then jumps a good 4 feet up on her cat tree. I sometimes call her "momma Mia" because she looks like one, know what I mean?

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Sep 12, 2008
 
MIA wrote:
Not saying it is right. Just providing a different view. If you had ever lost someone to a criminal,
Yes I have, and because it was a crime of passion and the perpetrator was very remorseful at trial, he only received 8 years.

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#55
Sep 12, 2008
 
Ron wrote:
Blacks are the most violent the world over. The larger the black population the more violent a society is.
The next time blacks whine about slavery reparations we should just give them a bill for all their violent crime and lost property values.
Wrong. Once you take out drug crimes and their violence, which blacks are disproportionately connected with..... whites are actually the most violent.

I swear, idiots like you give white people like myself and other races that are non-black a bad name.
MIA

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Reson wrote:
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Yes I have, and because it was a crime of passion and the perpetrator was very remorseful at trial, he only received 8 years.
COP are a little different than random acts. Yes the vast majority of murders are done by someone the victim knows....but not all. Trust me they are all remorseful when they are at trial. Ten years to life of oral and anal sex with another man will make you consider what you have done.
MIA

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Sep 12, 2008
 
Leria wrote:
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Wrong. Once you take out drug crimes and their violence, which blacks are disproportionately connected with..... whites are actually the most violent.
I swear, idiots like you give white people like myself and other races that are non-black a bad name.
If you take out drug crimes it will adjust some results but your statement is not accurate. Armed Robbery, rape, and murder are still topped by African Americans. I don't mean to stiffle you giving the guy a good what for, but those are the facts

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#58
Sep 12, 2008
 
1) No anti-gun legislation will imbue the armed criminal with the law-abiding zeal to turn his gun over to the cops -- even if gun haters wish they would.

2) The Bill of Rights specifically lists gun ownership. You don't have to like guns, but if you choose to live in the USA, you need to abide by the law of the land. You may think you are wiser than Our Founders, but you are mistaken.

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#59
Sep 12, 2008
 
this is why i've called crime of two with arms treason for the last twenty years, whether or not the constitution accepts my definition. let the congress judge armed crime, find out why some poor sm--k is out being a bastard and then ask for pork in thir district. let pols be honest before they break bread.
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Sep 12, 2008
 
Little Boy Blue wrote:
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OK, so what about the ecnonomic loss caused by drunk driving accidents; should we confiscate all the cars or just lock up the drunk drivers?
What about the economic loss caused by sexually transmitted diseases; should we ban promiscuous sex or just pass out condoms?
Gun violence is a cultural issue. Not necessarily American culture in general, but more to the point, it's primarily related to the Gangsta-Bling sub-culture, which spans national boundaries. If you are not a member of a gang and you don't live in a neighborhood infested by gangs, then your chances of becomming a victim of a gun related crime is no greater than that of the average European.
Now, let's see the UN conduct a survey to calculate the ecnonomic loss caused by Gangsta-Bling culture. No, that would be too controversial; they'd rather blame guns or society in general before they would go down that path.
So True! No politician in the US would have the guts to verbalize this - he of she would be out of office by the next day.
Charles P

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Sep 22, 2008
 
Reson wrote:
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Who opened the gate to let you out? you are one looney toon!!!
If you can explain the reasons for the US News media doing such a bad job, do it!
Do NOT just insult me! It takes NO BRAINS or EFFORT to just be rude.
I have seen too many news stories that are outright lies. Then when I find evidence, and have THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARRESTED, the news media covers up their errors and incompetence!
I am NOT a looney toon, as I WAS THE PERSON THAT PRESIDENT REAGAN SAID WAS RESPONSBLE FOR AMERICA WINNING THE COLD WAR. I stopped 8 DIFFERENT SOVIET INVASIONS FROM OCCURRING AROUND THE WORLD. I also Stopped 2 nuclear attacks on the USA, by INDIA! The news media HATES the truth about all of this, and they get people to lie to all of you. I am referring to that garbage movie, "Charlie Wilson's War". Wilson did do those things (the drinking, drugs, sex and providing LOW QUALITY OUTDATED WEAPONS TO THE AFGHANS. I was the person that pushed to get the Afghanies REAL WEAPONS AND SUPPLIES THEY NEEDED, INCLUDING THE SHOULDER FIRED ROCKETS AND GPS GUIDED 120 mm Mortars, and mules to carry these supplies.
THE NEWS MEDIA OPENLY PLANNED TO LIE ABOUT THE WHOLE THING, and to let the crooks from "60 Minutes" to all conspire to lie about the war.

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Sep 23, 2008
 
Charles P wrote:
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If you can explain the reasons for the US News media doing such a bad job, do it!
Do NOT just insult me! It takes NO BRAINS or EFFORT to just be rude.
I have seen too many news stories that are outright lies. Then when I find evidence, and have THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARRESTED, the news media covers up their errors and incompetence!
I am NOT a looney toon, as I WAS THE PERSON THAT PRESIDENT REAGAN SAID WAS RESPONSBLE FOR AMERICA WINNING THE COLD WAR. I stopped 8 DIFFERENT SOVIET INVASIONS FROM OCCURRING AROUND THE WORLD. I also Stopped 2 nuclear attacks on the USA, by INDIA! The news media HATES the truth about all of this, and they get people to lie to all of you. I am referring to that garbage movie, "Charlie Wilson's War". Wilson did do those things (the drinking, drugs, sex and providing LOW QUALITY OUTDATED WEAPONS TO THE AFGHANS. I was the person that pushed to get the Afghanies REAL WEAPONS AND SUPPLIES THEY NEEDED, INCLUDING THE SHOULDER FIRED ROCKETS AND GPS GUIDED 120 mm Mortars, and mules to carry these supplies.
THE NEWS MEDIA OPENLY PLANNED TO LIE ABOUT THE WHOLE THING, and to let the crooks from "60 Minutes" to all conspire to lie about the war.
Oh Jake 99, what is it that you haven't done?
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