Ready for Long Beach plastic bag ban?

Ready for Long Beach plastic bag ban?

There are 90 comments on the Press-Telegram story from Jul 31, 2011, titled Ready for Long Beach plastic bag ban?. In it, Press-Telegram reports that:

You'll need more than your shopping list at the local retail store Monday when the city of Long Beach's ordinance banning the distribution of plastic carryout bags goes into effect.

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Sue Langston

Long Beach, CA

#1 Jul 31, 2011
Being the only City to enforce the Ban is a HUGE feather in the caps of City Hall's Leftwing Dictatorship. The Ban will have a meaningless enviromental impact. But inflicting the Ban on the Community shows that the Party has complete POWER over even the smallest aspect of the lives of the weak minded majority voters in our City.
The Mad Man

Long Beach, CA

#2 Jul 31, 2011
Save the environment, save the environment...
We are a horrible city with a corrupt city council but we must save our environment! Did they ever think to create jobs for the homeless or some related measure? Not our city council, they would rather have the landfills and the beaches look pretty for the poor to visit!
Sack Grabber

United States

#3 Jul 31, 2011
How will this play out at Food 4 Less where you bag your own groceries, and a lot of the customers are stocking up for large families. After the clerk rings up the order, how will they guess how many bags need to be purchased. If the customer doesn't use all of the bags will she argue with the clerk to get a 10 or 20 cent bag refund?

Does EBT pay for the paper bags?
Sack Grabber

United States

#4 Jul 31, 2011
Actually, this is a problem for all grocery transactions. The usual protocol is: 1. clerk rings up total purchase, 2. customer pays, 3. clerk or bagger bags the groceries.

Now the total purchase price will not be known until the bagging process is completed, and you may have the customer complaining, hey why didn't you squeeze my stuff into 5 bags, no way am I paying for 7 bags.

I'm sure it will get figured out eventually but look for longer slower lines in the short run.
Ronald

Westminster, CA

#5 Jul 31, 2011
I just heard on the Government licensed and controlled electronic TV "news" that it costs revolutionary Government 17 cents of our hard earned tax money to dispose of each plastic bag.

If revolutionary Government is finally using its propaganda mill to all-of-a-sudden tell the truth *(and, of course it is not)* this means the Long Beach taxpaying minority can look forward to huge tax reductions. This "benefit", when added onto expected drastically lower grocery prices as a result of bag lady Soja Lowental's bag ban, means hard working overtaxed and underrepresented Long Beachers will be able to mitigate the damage caused them from other failed Government economic policies of like nature.

Ronald
Sack Grabber

Folsom, CA

#6 Jul 31, 2011
Plastic bags are useful. In shantytowns around the world, plastic bags are known as "flying toilets." Why? Because you poop in them, tie them off tightly, go out in front of your cardboard shack, and throw the bag as far as you can.
Alfred E Newman

Long Beach, CA

#7 Aug 1, 2011
For the next 30 days - I will shop:
Lakewood
Hawaian Gardens
Seal Beach
Norwalk

It is my simple form of civil protest
Pit Bull

Folsom, CA

#8 Aug 1, 2011
My personal protest: Wherever my dog poops -- neighbor's yard, sidewalk, park -- I'm not picking it up. Deal with it!
Rob Samuels

Bellflower, CA

#9 Aug 1, 2011
Alfred E Newman wrote:
For the next 30 days - I will shop:
Lakewood
Hawaian Gardens
Seal Beach
Norwalk
It is my simple form of civil protest
The "cloth bags" are incubators for all manner of toxic germs. Be grateful that the Communities surrounding Long Beach have LEADERS who concern themselves with real life consequences of political mandates regardless of their personal "political agendas".

If your families health is a factor in your shopping decisions, all of the Communities surrounding Long Beach welcome your business.
The Mad Man

Long Beach, CA

#10 Aug 1, 2011
Pit Bull wrote:
My personal protest: Wherever my dog poops -- neighbor's yard, sidewalk, park -- I'm not picking it up. Deal with it!
I am ready to agree on this one. Suja, district 2, in Long Beach is a perfect dumping ground, since she spear headed this movement and I will be glad to return the 'movement' on her front lawn, so she doesn't feel left out.
Sue Langston

Bellflower, CA

#11 Aug 1, 2011
Don't blame Suja L. or Bonnie L. or anyone else.

The mentality of the LB voters has deteriorated to the point where which ever candidate gets the public employee unions to pay for the shiniest mailer WINS.

Do you really believe that SANE, grounded, rational, voters would have sent Laura Richardson to Congress?
The Mad Man

Long Beach, CA

#13 Aug 1, 2011
Sue Langston wrote:
Don't blame Suja L. or Bonnie L. or anyone else.
The mentality of the LB voters has deteriorated to the point where which ever candidate gets the public employee unions to pay for the shiniest mailer WINS.
Do you really believe that SANE, grounded, rational, voters would have sent Laura Richardson to Congress?
The city council and Suja spearheaded this movement to 'save the environment, save the landfills, save the beaches' and all the govt did was enforce what stupid people really believe is going to make a difference to the world. How about world peace? STUPIDITY RULES!
Sack Grabber

United States

#14 Aug 1, 2011
Check out the new Sprouts Market in Lakewood, just over the city line at Woodruff @ Carson. Plastic bags galore!
Sack Grabber

United States

#15 Aug 1, 2011
I just thought of a fantastic money-making opportunity. Buy a buttload of plastic bags, wholesale.

Enlist the beggars who hang around outside the supermarkets and Target to sell the bags for 25 cents apiece, pay them off with a 6-pack of Mickey's Malt Liquor, you keep the cash.
frequent shopper

Long Beach, CA

#16 Aug 2, 2011
I re-used my plastic bags that the stores gave me, now I will need to buy plastic bags or shop outside of Long Beach. What percentage of customers will leave Long Beach to shop, did the council add this to their environmenal equation?
(lines are slower, people think they should bag their own goods now)
John

United States

#17 Aug 2, 2011
frequent shopper wrote:
I re-used my plastic bags that the stores gave me, now I will need to buy plastic bags or shop outside of Long Beach. What percentage of customers will leave Long Beach to shop, did the council add this to their environmenal equation?
(lines are slower, people think they should bag their own goods now)
Get a couple of big canvas bags, you moron! Get a medium sized cardboard box! Good Christ you people are dense!

"Duuuuhhh! Ain't no plastic bags! I gots to drive to Lakewood now! Duuuuuuuuhhhh!!

Fricking lunatics.
John

United States

#18 Aug 2, 2011
Rob Samuels wrote:
<quoted text>
The "cloth bags" are incubators for all manner of toxic germs.
Provide citations, if you think you can.
no money for the city

Glendora, CA

#19 Aug 2, 2011
the idea that the city council gets to shove this ordinance down everyone's throat is the big issue here... i do not drive around with bags in my car nor do i plan on starting heck i can barely remember to bring my coupons... so i would be one of the people who would be paying over and over again for a freaking bag.. no thanks long beach so when i am out and about i will just make sure i stop elsewhere.. i cant have city council people dictating to me "behavior issues" its my money and time i will spend it the way I choose
Lexxie

Long Beach, CA

#20 Aug 2, 2011
frequent shopper wrote:
I re-used my plastic bags that the stores gave me, now I will need to buy plastic bags or shop outside of Long Beach. What percentage of customers will leave Long Beach to shop, did the council add this to their environmenal equation?
(lines are slower, people think they should bag their own goods now)
I went shopping today. I had forgotten this stupid law went into effect. It's inconvenient and I will no longer shop in Long Beach. Neither will a lot of people, apparently. I asked the checker at K-mart "how come the line was so short" and she said "that since the law went into effect, no ones been coming." Poor people are not going to shop where they have to pay extra for a bag. Lakewood, Cypress, Los Alamitos are simple to get to and bags galore. This 'law' is going to blow up in the City Councils faces and I, for one, can't wait!
boycott

United States

#21 Aug 3, 2011
no money for the city wrote:
the idea that the city council gets to shove this ordinance down everyone's throat is the big issue here... i do not drive around with bags in my car nor do i plan on starting heck i can barely remember to bring my coupons... so i would be one of the people who would be paying over and over again for a freaking bag.. no thanks long beach so when i am out and about i will just make sure i stop elsewhere.. i cant have city council people dictating to me "behavior issues" its my money and time i will spend it the way I choose
What kind of politicians creates a tax on a traditional courtesy during a double-dip recession? Half the city council and the Mayor! That's who!

Who does this new law kick in the nuts? The Middle-Class! That's who! Rich people don't care, and "poor" people get all the free bags they can carry!

Boycott Long Beach grocery stores. Let the city council explain to grocery store chains why they're making significantly less money! Shop at Costco!!!

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