STRIKING BACK: U.S. says leaks are a ...

STRIKING BACK: U.S. says leaks are a crime, threatens prosecution

There are 33 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Nov 30, 2010, titled STRIKING BACK: U.S. says leaks are a crime, threatens prosecution. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

Striking back, the Obama administration branded the WikiLeaks release of more than a quarter-million sensitive files an attack on the United States Monday and raised the prospect of criminal prosecutions in connection with the exposure.

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Wikileaks

Torrance, CA

#1 Nov 30, 2010
Yup, it's a threat to have the public access information before it's been filtered by Rupert and his cronies.
Ted

Hawthorne, CA

#2 Nov 30, 2010
The guy who leaked the info should be hung, but how is publishing this information breaking the law? I don't get it.
loathingofsociet y

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Nov 30, 2010
Now why wasn't this done the first time it happened! Obama is dumbing and bring down the nation!
Dispassionate Observer

El Segundo, CA

#4 Nov 30, 2010
As far as I can tell, the guy who took the files is already in custody and the other (Assange) is (currently) out of reach by the US.

Who else can be prosecuted? The press? Good luck with that.
Dutch

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Nov 30, 2010
I read some of these documents on line and can only desribe them as boring and uneventful.

Why are they classified? I saw nothing "secret" after reading about 5-6 of them.

Media once again making a big deal over nothing.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#6 Nov 30, 2010
When Sarah Palin is elected president, the first thing she should do is pardon Julian Assange.
Julian Assange is showing that Obama and his people are nothing but a bunch of incompetent clowns
String Em Up

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Nov 30, 2010
For Wikileaks, while you may not like the government, it is not always in the country's best interest to have everything out in the open. Sorry, but not everyone needs to know everything. You may or may not know this, but there are actually people even within our borders who would love to hurt our country!(sarcastic voice added)
For Ted, both the person who leaked the information and the person who published the information to the public should be tried for treason. If someone else steals a car and gives it to you, it doesn't make it ok for you to then go out and drive it.
It is incredibly sad how our society has deteriorated that we don't mind people doing damage to our country and government. While I don't always trust everything our governement says, it does seem to be a bad thing to have this kind of "classified" information being leaked out. Sad others can't understand why this is a problem.
Neil Proffitt

Camarillo, CA

#8 Nov 30, 2010
WikiLeaks should not be held criminally liable for the publication of classified information. They did what any other sleazy internet web site would have done. It's Pfc. Bradley Manning who should bear the brunt of the military prosecuter's wrath. He treated this like a mere facebook interchange between gossipy teenagers. And then boasted about it. Bad move, Brad.
simonsez

Camarillo, CA

#9 Nov 30, 2010
I am just old enough to remember when the left thought publishing "The pentagon papers" was a real triumph for democracy. What has changed? What arguments that were made then could not be made today?
Barada

North Hollywood, CA

#10 Nov 30, 2010
Wikileaks wrote:
Yup, it's a threat to have the public access information before it's been filtered by Rupert and his cronies.
No. It's a threat when sensitive information is released without filtering by the government. Certainly, unless you are an anarchist, you acknowledge the need for secrecy in many situations. If this were allowed to happen in the 1940s we would not have won WWII.
Shiloh

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Nov 30, 2010
californio wrote:
When Sarah Palin is elected president, the first thing she should do is pardon Julian Assange.
Julian Assange is showing that Obama and his people are nothing but a bunch of incompetent clowns
This is too funny!

Have you forgotten who got us into Iraq? Afghanistan? Who failed to capture/kill OBL,'our #1 priority'?

Obama inherited a mess militarily and economically but your memory does not function more than 24 months back.

BTW, Palin is the tru clown, she thinks we have a treaty with the North Koreans!
To DO in RB

Northridge, CA

#12 Nov 30, 2010
Dispassionate Observer wrote:
As far as I can tell, the guy who took the files is already in custody and the other (Assange) is (currently) out of reach by the US.
Who else can be prosecuted? The press? Good luck with that.
The soldier, Bradley Manning has not been charged in the latest release of internal U.S. government documents. But officials said he is the prime suspect partly because of his own description of how he pulled off a staggering heist of classified and restricted material.

"No one suspected a thing," Manning told a confidant afterward, according to a log of his computer chat published by Wired.com . "I didn't even have to hide anything."

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton asserted Monday that WikiLeaks acted illegally in posting the material. She said the administration was taking "aggressive steps to hold responsible those who stole this information."

Attorney General Eric Holder said the government was mounting a criminal investigation, and the Pentagon was tightening access to information, including restricting the use of computer storage devices such as CDs and flash drives.
"This is not saber-rattling," Holder said. Anyone found to have broken American law "will be held responsible."

Re: FILE - This undated file photo obtained by The Associated Press shows U.S. Army Pfc.Bradley Manning. The Obama administration has told whistleblower WikiLeaks that its expected imminent release of classified State Department cables will put "countless" lives at risk, threaten global counterterrorism operations and jeopardize U.S. relations with its allies. The U.S. says it has known for some time that WikiLeaks held the diplomatic cables. No one has been charged with passing them to the website, but suspicion focuses on U.S. Army Pfc. Bradley Manning.(AP Photo, File)
String Em Up

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Nov 30, 2010
Neil Proffitt wrote:
WikiLeaks should not be held criminally liable for the publication of classified information. They did what any other sleazy internet web site would have done. It's Pfc. Bradley Manning who should bear the brunt of the military prosecuter's wrath. He treated this like a mere facebook interchange between gossipy teenagers. And then boasted about it. Bad move, Brad.
I agree, Brad should be put away and forgotten about, or better, yet, deported to Iran! But Wiki published the documents knowing they were classified!!!! How on earth could you let them off the hook? Anyone who knowingly published classified information should also be held liable.
Are you not going to hold the bank robber accountable because someone else would have robbed the bank anyway?????
Shut Up Dutch

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Nov 30, 2010
Dutch wrote:
I read some of these documents on line and can only desribe them as boring and uneventful.
Why are they classified? I saw nothing "secret" after reading about 5-6 of them.
Media once again making a big deal over nothing.
Well gee Dutch, I guess maybe the Pentagon should run all of their papers by you first, get the ole Dutch seal of approval before allowing any information to be marked as classified! Maybe, just Maybe, they know something more about all of the information and how it fits into the big picture that you don't know. Really Dutch, they may actually know something you don't.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#15 Nov 30, 2010
Neil Proffitt wrote:
WikiLeaks should not be held criminally liable for the publication of classified information. They did what any other sleazy internet web site would have done. It's Pfc. Bradley Manning who should bear the brunt of the military prosecuter's wrath. He treated this like a mere facebook interchange between gossipy teenagers. And then boasted about it. Bad move, Brad.
The first leak was from the military and came from PFC Bradley Manning. These leaks are from the State department so there another leaker there.
Wikileaks

Torrance, CA

#16 Nov 30, 2010
Barada wrote:
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No. It's a threat when sensitive information is released without filtering by the government. Certainly, unless you are an anarchist, you acknowledge the need for secrecy in many situations. If this were allowed to happen in the 1940s we would not have won WWII.
Right because it's to the governments advantage that you all comfortably sit on your fat asses on the couch drooling over Dancing with the Stars eating your over salted tv dinners while your under educated over fed children play video games in the den of the home you can barely afford. But your content right? Can't wait for the leak on BANK OF AMERICA!

Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official “that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S.”

Thinking about an eventual collapse of North Korea: American and South Korean officials have discussed the prospects for a unified Korea, should the North’s economic troubles and political transition lead the state to implode. The South Koreans even considered commercial inducements to China, according to the American ambassador to Seoul. She told Washington in February that South Korean officials believe that the right business deals would “help salve” China’s “concerns about living with a reunified Korea” that is in a “benign alliance” with the United States.

¶ Bargaining to empty the Guantánamo Bay prison: When American diplomats pressed other countries to resettle detainees, they became reluctant players in a State Department version of “Let’s Make a Deal.” Slovenia was told to take a prisoner if it wanted to meet with President Obama, while the island nation of Kiribati was offered incentives worth millions of dollars to take in Chinese Muslim detainees, cables from diplomats recounted. The Americans, meanwhile, suggested that accepting more prisoners would be “a low-cost way for Belgium to attain prominence in Europe.”

¶ Suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government: When Afghanistan’s vice president visited the United Arab Emirates last year, local authorities working with the Drug Enforcement Administration discovered that he was carrying $52 million in cash. With wry understatement, a cable from the American Embassy in Kabul called the money “a significant amount” that the official, Ahmed Zia Massoud,“was ultimately allowed to keep without revealing the money’s origin or destination.”(Mr. Massoud denies taking any money out of Afghanistan.)

¶ A global computer hacking effort: China’s Politburo directed the intrusion into Google’s computer systems in that country, a Chinese contact told the American Embassy in Beijing in January, one cable reported. The Google hacking was part of a coordinated campaign of computer sabotage carried out by government operatives, private security experts and Internet outlaws recruited by the Chinese government. They have broken into American government computers and those of Western allies, the Dalai Lama and American businesses since 2002, cables said.

¶ Mixed records against terrorism: Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda, and the tiny Persian Gulf state of Qatar, a generous host to the American military for years, was the “worst in the region” in counterterrorism efforts, according to a State Department cable last December. Qatar’s security service was “hesitant to act against known terrorists out of concern for appearing to be aligned with the U.S. and provoking reprisals,” the cable said.
Wikileaks

Torrance, CA

#17 Nov 30, 2010
String Em Up wrote:
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I agree, Brad should be put away and forgotten about, or better, yet, deported to Iran! But Wiki published the documents knowing they were classified!!!! How on earth could you let them off the hook? Anyone who knowingly published classified information should also be held liable.
Are you not going to hold the bank robber accountable because someone else would have robbed the bank anyway?????
So the NYT's will be accountable as well?
The Espionage Act of 1917 is a crazy and spectacularly unconstitutional law that basically makes it a crime to publish anything the federal government doesn't want you to publish: It criminalizes obtaining or communicating "information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States.
Wikileaks

Torrance, CA

#19 Nov 30, 2010
I'm foaming at the mouth for the leak on BANK OF AMERICA!
Neil Proffitt

Camarillo, CA

#20 Nov 30, 2010
String Em Up wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, Brad should be put away and forgotten about, or better, yet, deported to Iran! But Wiki published the documents knowing they were classified!!!! How on earth could you let them off the hook? Anyone who knowingly published classified information should also be held liable.
Are you not going to hold the bank robber accountable because someone else would have robbed the bank anyway?????
It's that freedom of the press thing. Julian Assange, WikiLeaks founder, got hold of information and published it. It's on the military to secure any and all of their information. And because of the breech in security some serious reprimands and relieving of duty should occur from the top on down. This was inexcusable.
Lenny

Redondo Beach, CA

#21 Nov 30, 2010
this is a good thing. Security was very lax. hopefully now the govt. wont be so loose with taxpayer property

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