Turkish writer Orhan Pamuk wins Nobel

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Turkish author Orhan Pamuk shows his book "Snow" "Kar" in Turkish, during an interview with the Associated Press in Istanbul, Turkey, in this Jan.

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Shame..he is the ermenian winer not Turkish.
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He is a smart and tlanet novelist writing in Turkish. I enjoyed reading the White Castle and My Name is Red in particular.
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tayfun wrote:
Shame..he is the ermenian winer not Turkish.
He is a turkish writer and novellist with integrity and honesty. You should take after him.
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The NOBEL is a bone that someones already decided to give him bcs of his words about supposedly ermanian genocide.. thats all..at first he should read and learn his own history ( if he is a Turk!!), not imaginary novels...
In Iraq, lebanon, hundred thousands innocent people died. Is it not GENOCIDE? Does he mentioned one word about it?
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Orhan pamuk is not the best writer of 2006
for his outstanding writing capabilities...

he was nominated and awarded by the armenian diaspora because he said that turks committed
genocide against armenians and kurds.

you dont have to be a rocket scientist to win the nobel, just blame turkey just insult turks and
you got it...( guaranteed !!!)

the movie Duvar ( the wall ) by yilmaz guney
it was a bullshit movie but just because insulting
turkey and turkishness they gave him golden palm
award in cannes ... we all know that...
midnight express the cheapest and most ridiculous
movie ever , and was awarded so many prizes just
because the movie was based on insulting turkey...

if you are a turkish citizen and accept to declare
that there any no human rights in turkey that government is killing innocent people etc...
you will be granted political assylum in europe...

the heavy metal group "the system of a dawn " is a
hardliner armenian diaspora band and on their entry
tickets to the concerts written "dogs and turks are
not allowed"

no wonder that O. Pamuk was given the nobel prize and some ridiculous 1M euros to make cheap anti
turkish propoganda...!

how pathetic these Armenians are...!
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Oct 13, 2006
 
Righteous wrote:
Orhan pamuk is not the best writer of 2006
for his outstanding writing capabilities...
he was nominated and awarded by the armenian diaspora because he said that turks committed
genocide against armenians and kurds.
you dont have to be a rocket scientist to win the nobel, just blame turkey just insult turks and
you got it...( guaranteed !!!)
the movie Duvar ( the wall ) by yilmaz guney
it was a bullshit movie but just because insulting
turkey and turkishness they gave him golden palm
award in cannes ... we all know that...
midnight express the cheapest and most ridiculous
movie ever , and was awarded so many prizes just
because the movie was based on insulting turkey...
if you are a turkish citizen and accept to declare
that there any no human rights in turkey that government is killing innocent people etc...
you will be granted political assylum in europe...
the heavy metal group "the system of a dawn " is a
hardliner armenian diaspora band and on their entry
tickets to the concerts written "dogs and turks are
not allowed"
no wonder that O. Pamuk was given the nobel prize and some ridiculous 1M euros to make cheap anti
turkish propoganda...!
how pathetic these Armenians are...!
finally I do not believe that you have to blaim all the others,apart from you, about everything that it happens to your country.I am absolutely against racist phenomena ( like that group's action during their concerts).Most nations of Europe have bad idea for your country( i dont agree in many things).
But why??? what do you think? What r they gaining?
Righteous

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Oct 13, 2006
 
themis

I can feel the hatred towards turks ...
more than you can imagine...

just tell me with a reasonable answer, why ???
themis wrote:
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finally I do not believe that you have to blaim all the others,apart from you, about everything that it happens to your country.I am absolutely against racist phenomena ( like that group's action during their concerts).Most nations of Europe have bad idea for your country( i dont agree in many things).
But why??? what do you think? What r they gaining?
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Oct 14, 2006
 
I read all his books.As a writer I like him but the way of geting Nobel is real shame.I understend him otherwise he couldnt get Nobel.
Selcuk

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sokim nobele hocam.
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selcuk,

aynen oyle adanalim, sokim oyle nobele...

yasar kemal bin defa daha iyi yazardir ama ermeni
soykirimini agzina almadigi icin ona vermediler...

simdi norvec ten bir odul de Hrant dinke verilmis.
bunlarin hepsi tesadufmu yani???

Turkun turkten baska dostu yok gozum.
EU falan birakip biz basimizin caresine bakalim.
zayifin dostu olmaz, gucluysen hepsi etek opmek
icin siraya girer...

Turk ogun , calis , guven !!!
Ne mutlu turkum diyebilene ...!
Selcuk wrote:
sokim nobele hocam.
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Righteous wrote:
Orhan pamuk is not the best writer of 2006
for his outstanding writing capabilities...
he was nominated and awarded by the armenian diaspora because he said that turks committed
genocide against armenians and kurds.
The Armenians don't have the power to award the Nobel Prize for Literature.
Righteous wrote:
you dont have to be a rocket scientist to win the nobel, just blame turkey just insult turks and
you got it...( guaranteed !!!)
Ah, that's why Harold Pinter received the prize last year. He had insulted Turkey!
Righteous wrote:
the movie Duvar ( the wall ) by yilmaz guney
it was a bullshit movie but just because insulting
turkey and turkishness they gave him golden palm
award in cannes ... we all know that...
Let's see, recent Turkish movies that won prizes in Cannes, but did not insult Turkey or Turkishness (whatever that is):
Uzak (Grand Prix, 2003, two prizes for best actor)
"Climates" (Press Award, 2006)

Now, what did Duvar win in Cannes. Let's see. Ehm. Uh. Still searching. Nothing. Oh, oops, it was only nominated...
Righteous wrote:
midnight express the cheapest and most ridiculous
movie ever , and was awarded so many prizes just
because the movie was based on insulting turkey...
No, that's NOT why it was awarded so many prizes.
Righteous wrote:
if you are a turkish citizen and accept to declare
that there any no human rights in turkey that government is killing innocent people etc...
you will be granted political assylum in europe...
No, you will NOT be granted political asylum in Europe on that basis. If that were true, you wonder why the EU is going forward with accession talks with Turkey.
Righteous wrote:
the heavy metal group "the system of a dawn " is a
hardliner armenian diaspora band and on their entry
tickets to the concerts written "dogs and turks are
not allowed"
Ah, the infamous lie spread by Aksam. When asked to produce the date of that concert, it couldn't...
Righteous wrote:
no wonder that O. Pamuk was given the nobel prize and some ridiculous 1M euros to make cheap anti
turkish propoganda...!
how pathetic these Armenians are...!
Care to discuss your obvious bias and your argumentation based on false information?
Selcuk

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Marco wrote:
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Ah, that's why Harold Pinter received the prize last year. He had insulted Turkey
Harold Pinter is a great guy.
Granted.

but nobel awarden authors since 1991 have very few important characters such as him.

I am not after total blac nor total white... Nor am I a conspiracy freak...
But French action and Nobel maneuver appearing on the sam day is very unlikely to be a coincidence.

As every futile attempt does, so will these fade soon... the loss will be on the Armenia Armenians side... and I am not glad bout that...
but...
I do not care much about it either...
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Selcuk wrote:
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Harold Pinter is a great guy.
Granted.
His Nobel Prize was called an attack on the USA...
Selcuk wrote:
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but nobel awarden authors since 1991 have very few important characters such as him.
Sorry?! Coetzee, Naipaul, Fo and Grass are four HUGELY important characters, who transcended their own regions of origin. Perhaps with the small exception of Coetzee. Kertesz shouldn't be forgotten either.
Selcuk wrote:
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I am not after total blac nor total white... Nor am I a conspiracy freak...
But French action and Nobel maneuver appearing on the sam day is very unlikely to be a coincidence.
The date for the Nobel prize announcement is fixed, so you can't blame the Nobel committee for that. Add to that that the Nobel committee takes the prize winners only from the nominees. In other words, Pamuk was mentioned by, at the very least, one person already in February of this year, and he was amongst the top 5 in May (see:
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/literature/p... )

The winner is then chosen by the 4-5 member Nobel committee, that, if I recall correctly, only has Swedish members in this case.
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As every futile attempt does, so will these fade soon... the loss will be on the Armenia Armenians side... and I am not glad bout that...
but...
I do not care much about it either...
What loss on the Amernian side? The fact that Turkey is unable to come to peace with its own past?

Here you go, an article to get upset about:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,35...
Turxanthos

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Turkey's memory lapse?

Well you seem to forget numerious genocides that your Eruopean forefathers commited all across this planet which involved extermination of hundreds of millions of people.

Did any of those so called civilized European governments payed compensation in Australia? in Canada? in the USA? in Mexico? in South America? in Malaysia? in Indonesia? in Criema? in India? in China, in Vietnam, in Cambotia? in Africa? Did any of them publish or mention the genocides that they executed even after the UN Genocide Convention of 1948?
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I wouldnt be upset about neither that article nor the rest of the lies...
really, you seem to have above average intellect, why not try to find the truth behind all this.
even if the so called genocide exist, why advertise it so much now? whta is the real game that armenians are being a pawn within?

do you know anything about the American Schools that were opened in turkey prior to 1912? did you do any research on what they teach there?

do you know how the british agents fabricated all this genocide thing?

Ofcourse people died... even the so called genocide fans talk about 75 000 guerillas. they all died.
the 150 000 armenian soldiers wearing french uniforms also died.
and there were also casualties of deportation.

but you seem to ignore the 300 000 turks slaughtered all over anatolia under the french-english rule. these murders were also conducted by the local armenian lackeys.

why does no western person ask how this nation, the armenians came from point a: the trusted nation (millet-ul emin) within the empire to point b: hated deportees?

what was the game...?

I expect you will come back with some hateful stuff... this is the way it goes in this forum...
I also tend to do so...
but I just want to create a question in your mind.

Afterall, this is all talk? I wouldnt hurt anybody just bec. of his/her race, nor for merely intentions. And I do not believe an Armenian would either... so the real discussion should be who planted this bomb? why did they do that?

but we r far away from there... rnt we...?
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Turxanthos wrote:
Turkey's memory lapse?
Well you seem to forget numerious genocides that your Eruopean forefathers commited all across this planet which involved extermination of hundreds of millions of people.
Actually, no, I don't. You won't hear any European deny that their forefathers went to places to conquer, and that a large number of people were killed for that reason.
Turxanthos wrote:
Did any of those so called civilized European governments payed compensation in Australia? in Canada? in the USA? in Mexico? in South America? in Malaysia? in Indonesia? in Criema? in India? in China, in Vietnam, in Cambotia? in Africa? Did any of them publish or mention the genocides that they executed even after the UN Genocide Convention of 1948?
Yes, many of these civilised countries DID pay compensation. Hidden as foreign aid, I have to admit.

I wonder, though, why you add China, Cambodia, Vietnam and Malaysia to the list. Which European country has committed atrocities even remotely resembling ethnic cleansing or genocide there, according to you?
Turxanthos

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THAT'S EXACLY OUR POINT IDIOT. WE DID CUMMITED THOSE ATROCITIES AND WE DID RECOGNISED THEM AND APOLOGISED FOR THEM!
WHY DOESN'T TURKEY RECOGNISE IT'S PAST MISTAKES AND MAKES PEACE NOT ONLY WITH THE ARMENIANS AND THE WORLD, BUT WITH ITSELF AND STARTS FRESH NEW WITH A NEW CLEANED CONSCIENCE?
No they did not, so stop acting like they did.
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I wonder, though, why you add China, Cambodia, Vietnam and Malaysia to the list. Which European country has committed atrocities even remotely resembling ethnic cleansing or genocide there, according to you?
france in viet nam prior to american action might be a good example...
nevertheless... americans did much of a "greater job" (!) that the french atrocity was forgotten...
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Marco wrote:
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Actually, no, I don't. You won't hear any European deny that their forefathers went to places to conquer, and that a large number of people were killed for that reason.
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Yes, many of these civilised countries DID pay compensation. Hidden as foreign aid, I have to admit.
I wonder, though, why you add China, Cambodia, Vietnam and Malaysia to the list. Which European country has committed atrocities even remotely resembling ethnic cleansing or genocide there, according to you?
Well some Europeans even deny the genocide of the jews, not to mention the genocides in Asia, Australia, in Africa, in South and North America continents.

You dont know why I included those to the list since you have no idea about the number of genocides that the Europeans got involved.

Finally, no compensation or no sorry statement were uttered by any of the European states. So, if you have one example, then plase deliver us the details, so we can all get to know about the European way of making peace with the past.

If you dont have such resources, then try to deliver your lies to somebody else who is fool enough to believe in such non-sense.
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Selcuk wrote:
I wouldnt be upset about neither that article nor the rest of the lies...
Well, the problem is exactly in your last word: you call it all lies. I guess, then, that your dear Atatürk lied when he had Young Turks prosecuted for their involvement in the, apparently non-existing, Armenian massacre...
Selcuk wrote:
really, you seem to have above average intellect, why not try to find the truth behind all this.
even if the so called genocide exist, why advertise it so much now? whta is the real game that armenians are being a pawn within?
That really is a simple question. First do note that this isn't the first time that Armenia has asked for the recognition.
But the answer is simple: for the first time there is a Turkish government that isn't so nationalistic. It wants to be part of the EU, and this offers the chance that the Turkish government will finally admit to a genocide. There's no such chance if the nationalistic parties are in power.

A more complicated one is the continuing troubles with Azerbadjan, an ally of Turkey.

So, the Armenians aren't the pawns....
Selcuk wrote:
do you know anything about the American Schools that were opened in turkey prior to 1912? did you do any research on what they teach there?
do you know how the british agents fabricated all this genocide thing?
If the British fabricated "this genocide thing", you'd wonder why THEY could not prosecute any Turks, whereas the Turks themselves DID.

Well, I actually do know why the British couldn't: they traded the Turkish prisoners for British prisoners.
Selcuk wrote:
Ofcourse people died... even the so called genocide fans talk about 75 000 guerillas. they all died.
the 150 000 armenian soldiers wearing french uniforms also died.
and there were also casualties of deportation.
but you seem to ignore the 300 000 turks slaughtered all over anatolia under the french-english rule. these murders were also conducted by the local armenian lackeys.
Two wrongs don't make a right. So far, the Turkish history books place the blame solely and completely on the Armenians.
Selcuk wrote:
why does no western person ask how this nation, the armenians came from point a: the trusted nation (millet-ul emin) within the empire to point b: hated deportees?
what was the game...?
Simple: the more the Ottoman Empire started to rot, the more autocratic it became. At one point a group of people has had enough and wants its freedom back. The events of 1915 were not unique. Massacres had already occured in the 1890s and in 1909.
Selcuk wrote:
I expect you will come back with some hateful stuff... this is the way it goes in this forum...
I also tend to do so...
but I just want to create a question in your mind.
Afterall, this is all talk? I wouldnt hurt anybody just bec. of his/her race, nor for merely intentions. And I do not believe an Armenian would either... so the real discussion should be who planted this bomb? why did they do that?
but we r far away from there... rnt we...?
That 'bomb' was planted about a 100 years ago. The fact that it is played so hard right now I have explained further above.

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