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Seth

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Nov 25, 2006
 
even just looking at elbows , or typing this word.. makes me anxious and uncomftorable.. sometimes my own elbows.. even if im recieving some kind of sexual stimulus and thier elbow is on me... i CANT HANDLE IT!!!!! its so painful.. like a pain i cant describe... its not like its gonna hurt me.. but its so irrational and unreal.. id rather be dead than have an elbow touching me all day
Seth

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Nov 25, 2006
 
i feela horribly evil unhealthy energy emanating from elbows
Nathan Machan

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Nov 29, 2006
 
Whats the story with -your- elbows? You may want to think back as to when this phobia became a problem, pinpointing the point in time in which it did, usually will shed light on the cause...If you just want to get over it, and not address the underlying cause, simply collect photos of elbows from all over the internet. Then make a slideshow...while you watch it do something you like to do at the same time, like eat, or listen to positive music or whatever (somthings thats typically a reward for you). This will trick your brain into thinking elbows actually cause this good feeling, and should eventually make you like them alot. Other reasons may include the fact that its not elbows you like, but bending things, hinges, and things not firmly connected (things liable to be disjointed with enough pressure...) In that case a hatred for knees, shoulders, ankles and so on may be next. Perhaps you enjoy firmness and stright lines...anyway some things to ponder
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Nov 29, 2006
 
Nathan Machan wrote:
Whats the story with -your- elbows? You may want to think back as to when this phobia became a problem, pinpointing the point in time in which it did, usually will shed light on the cause...If you just want to get over it, and not address the underlying cause, simply collect photos of elbows from all over the internet. Then make a slideshow...while you watch it do something you like to do at the same time, like eat, or listen to positive music or whatever (somthings thats typically a reward for you). This will trick your brain into thinking elbows actually cause this good feeling, and should eventually make you like them alot. Other reasons may include the fact that its not elbows you like, but bending things, hinges, and things not firmly connected (things liable to be disjointed with enough pressure...) In that case a hatred for knees, shoulders, ankles and so on may be next. Perhaps you enjoy firmness and stright lines...anyway some things to ponder
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Seth

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Dec 3, 2006
 
Nathan Machan wrote:
Whats the story with -your- elbows? You may want to think back as to when this phobia became a problem, pinpointing the point in time in which it did, usually will shed light on the cause...If you just want to get over it, and not address the underlying cause, simply collect photos of elbows from all over the internet. Then make a slideshow...while you watch it do something you like to do at the same time, like eat, or listen to positive music or whatever (somthings thats typically a reward for you). This will trick your brain into thinking elbows actually cause this good feeling, and should eventually make you like them alot. Other reasons may include the fact that its not elbows you like, but bending things, hinges, and things not firmly connected (things liable to be disjointed with enough pressure...) In that case a hatred for knees, shoulders, ankles and so on may be next. Perhaps you enjoy firmness and stright lines...anyway some things to ponder
oh i love my joints, but elbows.. are like a stab of uncomftorableness in my chest.. and i will begin to panic if trapped in a car with someone who has lanky arms and a bony elbow.... i almost bout tuck-n-rolled one time this was happened, id be too embarrased to tell anyone i know about this problem

especially the person i want to get away from cause of thier elbow.. they might tease me and stick it in my face and .. that hurts me for DAYS :(
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Dec 3, 2006
 
"What s the story with -your- elbows?"

im ok with them.. i dont rest them on my body anywhere, but if i think about them and look and concentrate .. its the same effect of.. stumbling across a memento that is stained with horrible terrible memorys from your past.. so you crumple it up and throw it away.. or you.. put it back into the desk.. or wherever it was very hastily.. i just try to forget about them

i dont know why i have this fear
abby

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Dec 22, 2006
 

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i am extremly scared of elbows sometimes i cry and time is hyperventilatredksdjbsdfg asdkfmbn djkfbga

OH MY GOD ELBOWS!
abby

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about that comment i posted about a minute ago well i wasn't making fun of anyone i actually am scared of elbows it's horrible people think i should go to therepy for it. if an elbow touches me or something that feels like an elbow like a knee or anything i freak out.

Since: Dec 06

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abby wrote:
about that comment i posted about a minute ago well i wasn't making fun of anyone i actually am scared of elbows it's horrible people think i should go to therepy for it. if an elbow touches me or something that feels like an elbow like a knee or anything i freak out.
Yeah....sure.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
If this is real, then what I can suggest is to try to remember what happened around elbows that made you feel this way. Most likely it is a trauma, or something deeply upesetting, maybe abuse.

Once you figure out the event that triggered it, while you have that image in your head, direct anger at it. Mentally direct your anger at the situation and at your abuser.

It may take a while of this to get over. Most often phobias and such are linked to traumatic events and abuse. Don't confront your abuser in person, but let your anger out at this person in private, in your room.

I.e. scream and cuss at this person into your pillow, punch this person in your mind, swing into the air, punch your bed.

Do this every time or as often as possible that your phobia symptom appears. Letting your anger out in intervals, your phobia will gradually lessen and disappear. It may take a year or more.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
The abuse could have even been something like someone nudging you repeatedly with elbows, like tickling. Or it could have been tackling and bullying.

Even tickling can be abusive. Even though it tiggers laughter, it is an unwanted touch and invasion of a kind.

Since: Dec 06

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Dec 25, 2006
 
Amber wrote:
If this is real, then what I can suggest is to try to remember what happened around elbows that made you feel this way. Most likely it is a trauma, or something deeply upesetting, maybe abuse.
Once you figure out the event that triggered it, while you have that image in your head, direct anger at it. Mentally direct your anger at the situation and at your abuser.
It may take a while of this to get over. Most often phobias and such are linked to traumatic events and abuse. Don't confront your abuser in person, but let your anger out at this person in private, in your room.
I.e. scream and cuss at this person into your pillow, punch this person in your mind, swing into the air, punch your bed.
Do this every time or as often as possible that your phobia symptom appears. Letting your anger out in intervals, your phobia will gradually lessen and disappear. It may take a year or more.
This technique was utilized in the late 70's but its not as frequently practiced today, and it was more used for neurotic disorders then conditioned phobias. There is numerous ways this person could go about addressing phobias. With 250 forms of psychotherapeutic treatment available, there are many options. The 'most' successful technique has been systemic desensitization.

The main criticism of this anger release approach is that it attempts to dispell the negative energy encapsulated by some treaumtic experience through negative means without addressing the underlying crux of the emotion. Many contemporary idiographic therapies focus on diffusing this energy in a constructive manner.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Nathan Machan wrote:
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This technique was utilized in the late 70's but its not as frequently practiced today, and it was more used for neurotic disorders then conditioned phobias. There is numerous ways this person could go about addressing phobias. With 250 forms of psychotherapeutic treatment available, there are many options. The 'most' successful technique has been systemic desensitization.
The main criticism of this anger release approach is that it attempts to dispell the negative energy encapsulated by some treaumtic experience through negative means without addressing the underlying crux of the emotion. Many contemporary idiographic therapies focus on diffusing this energy in a constructive manner.
By dispelling the anger, aren't we addressing the underlying crux of the emotion?
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Dec 25, 2006
 
And this is a constructive manner, diffusing the energy in private. The anger gets dispelled without harming anyone.
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Dec 25, 2006
 
Nathan Machan wrote:
Whats the story with -your- elbows? You may want to think back as to when this phobia became a problem, pinpointing the point in time in which it did, usually will shed light on the cause...If you just want to get over it, and not address the underlying cause, simply collect photos of elbows from all over the internet. Then make a slideshow...while you watch it do something you like to do at the same time, like eat, or listen to positive music or whatever (somthings thats typically a reward for you). This will trick your brain into thinking elbows actually cause this good feeling, and should eventually make you like them alot. Other reasons may include the fact that its not elbows you like, but bending things, hinges, and things not firmly connected (things liable to be disjointed with enough pressure...) In that case a hatred for knees, shoulders, ankles and so on may be next. Perhaps you enjoy firmness and stright lines...anyway some things to ponder
All this talk about bending things, hinges, and things not firmly connected is going to make ME have and elbow phobia!

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Dec 26, 2006
 
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By dispelling the anger, aren't we addressing the underlying crux of the emotion?
We would be addressing the emotion itself not the cause perse. Frtiz Perlz did some crazy group therapy stuff like this, as much I respect the innovativeness of the approach, I think there are better ways to go about doing it then reliving our trauma. We have to address the element in ourselves that clings to it.

In focalizer therapy they talk about how when an animal suffers a traumataic experience, like a deer almost hit by a car, they immediatley shake it off (literally). Humans on the other hand (perhaps do to our well developed cognitive abilities...perhaps) tend to keep that 'energy' encased in our bodys. There is something before the trauma which allows us the capacity retain this 'energy'.
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Dec 26, 2006
 
My point it that it is the accumulated anger which has been repressed that causes symptoms. I'm not encouraging reliving the trauma, that can be even more traumatic and dangerous.

I was focused more on releasing the energy. If we know who the abuser was then we can mentally redirect the anger at the one who abused us. The phobia is a symtom of the accumulated anger.

The reason why deers have no problem shaking it off and are healthy is because they are able to have natural fight or flight reactions in nature. Humans in civilization are not allowed to follow their natural fight or flight responses, so we must repress our anger for the sake of peace and survival.

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Dec 26, 2006
 
Amber wrote:
The reason why deers have no problem shaking it off and are healthy is because they are able to have natural fight or flight reactions in nature. Humans in civilization are not allowed to follow their natural fight or flight responses, so we must repress our anger for the sake of peace and survival.
I agree with this entirely.

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Jan 29, 2007
 
Nathan Machan wrote:
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We would be addressing the emotion itself not the cause perse. Frtiz Perlz did some crazy group therapy stuff like this, as much I respect the innovativeness of the approach, I think there are better ways to go about doing it then reliving our trauma. We have to address the element in ourselves that clings to it.
In focalizer therapy they talk about how when an animal suffers a traumataic experience, like a deer almost hit by a car, they immediatley shake it off (literally). Humans on the other hand (perhaps do to our well developed cognitive abilities...perhaps) tend to keep that 'energy' encased in our bodys. There is something before the trauma which allows us the capacity retain this 'energy'.
But a shot of Adreneline, can knock that traumataic memory right down the drain....

if given before that wicked ol' human brain can lock it into it hard drive....

as though we should need an outside source to compensate for your short commings....

that flight response is still there....increasing the level of something...

cause the ones you look at can't handle fear...don't think everyone is a "fraidy cat"

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Jan 29, 2007
 
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