Some homophobia is self-phobia: Study

Some homophobia is self-phobia: Study

There are 305 comments on the 24 Hours story from Apr 8, 2012, titled Some homophobia is self-phobia: Study. In it, 24 Hours reports that:

Homophobia is more pronounced in individuals with an unacknowledged attraction to the same sex and who grew up with authoritarian parents who forbade such desires, a new study suggests.

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Qwerty

Lewes, DE

#1 Apr 8, 2012
I think it's pretty common knowledge that many homophobes harbor secret homosexual tendencies. This study not only confirms that, but adds the role of authoritative families into the mix, which makes a lot of sense.

It will be interesting to see more details of how this study was conducted.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#2 Apr 8, 2012
Well, well, well..... more proof that many homophobes can't deal with their own desires. Let's see which of our "regulars" will try to dispute this by screaming MY RELIGION SAYS...

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#3 Apr 8, 2012
My response to this article is a resounding, "Well, duh!" No adult who is comfortable with their own sexual orientation has an issue with the sexual orientation of others. That's a no-brainer.

“Son of Abraham”

Since: Aug 07

Natural Deviant

#4 Apr 8, 2012
Homophobia is just a knees jerk reaction of a man trying to convince himself he's not gay at all.

“Church | | State”

Since: Jun 07

Toby's Landing

#5 Apr 8, 2012
JMichael in Fort Worth wrote:
My response to this article is a resounding, "Well, duh!" No adult who is comfortable with their own sexual orientation has an issue with the sexual orientation of others. That's a no-brainer.
"Well, duh!" is exactly right. The most rabid anti-gay legislators, religious leaders, and people in general are usually the ones who get caught "with their pants down" (pun intended!) Am I the only one who sees a "Larry Craig moment" in Rick Santorum's future? Of course not!

Religious homophobes are the worst. I guess they believe they get brownie points with somebody if they persecute others for what they perceive to be their own worst sin. I have also observed that many times people who go out of their way to prove to others how much they believe their religion are really trying to convince themselves of its validity. They are usually the "bible thumpers". I believe the self-loathing and self-deception factors multiply the effect. It's sad what some of them do to themselves as well as to others.
Snickers

Grove City, PA

#6 Apr 8, 2012
This study proves nothing but that good parenting is effective and you CAN train your children to be heterosexual. I know you gays think you have to be "true to yourself," but that often just means indulging yourself, even with your worst traits. Good parenting also stops people from acting on the impulse to strangle someone who irritates you or stealing something that you want and can't afford to buy. Gays, who keep claiming that they are "born this way" and that they "can't change their sexual desires," should be running and screaming from this article, not posting it on a gay forum. It only proves that lots of people may have some same-gender attraction, yet they are able to control themselves and live the kind of lives they want to live - normal lives with marriage and children that are the true off spring of both the parents. I thank God for my parents whose good parenting has given me a blessed life, just the kind that I wanted to live.

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Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#7 Apr 8, 2012
Snickers wrote:
This study proves nothing but that good parenting is effective and you CAN train your children to be heterosexual. I know you gays think you have to be "true to yourself," but that often just means indulging yourself, even with your worst traits. Good parenting also stops people from acting on the impulse to strangle someone who irritates you or stealing something that you want and can't afford to buy. Gays, who keep claiming that they are "born this way" and that they "can't change their sexual desires," should be running and screaming from this article, not posting it on a gay forum. It only proves that lots of people may have some same-gender attraction, yet they are able to control themselves and live the kind of lives they want to live - normal lives with marriage and children that are the true off spring of both the parents. I thank God for my parents whose good parenting has given me a blessed life, just the kind that I wanted to live.
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Train your children to be heterosexual! Yeah.... they train you to suppress your feelings or risk losing their love. That's SICK.

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"It only proves that lots of people may have some same-gender attraction, yet they are able to control themselves"

Oh? Are you trying to tell us something?
Across all the studies, participants with supportive and accepting parents were more in touch with their implicit sexual orientation, while those from authoritarian homes revealed the most discrepancy between explicit and implicit attraction.

"In a predominately heterosexual society,'know thyself' can be a challenge for many gay individuals. But in controlling and homophobic homes, embracing a minority sexual orientation can be terrifying," explains Weinstein. These individuals risk losing the love and approval of their parents if they admit to same sex attractions, so many people deny or repress that part of themselves, she said.

"This study shows that if you are feeling that kind of visceral reaction to an out-group, ask yourself,'Why?'" says Ryan. "Those intense emotions should serve as a call to self-reflection."

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#8 Apr 8, 2012
Snickers wrote:
This study proves nothing but that good parenting is effective and you CAN train your children to be heterosexual. I know you gays think you have to be "true to yourself," but that often just means indulging yourself, even with your worst traits. Good parenting also stops people from acting on the impulse to strangle someone who irritates you or stealing something that you want and can't afford to buy. Gays, who keep claiming that they are "born this way" and that they "can't change their sexual desires," should be running and screaming from this article, not posting it on a gay forum. It only proves that lots of people may have some same-gender attraction, yet they are able to control themselves and live the kind of lives they want to live - normal lives with marriage and children that are the true off spring of both the parents. I thank God for my parents whose good parenting has given me a blessed life, just the kind that I wanted to live.
You should have remained silent on the subject. Your whole posts is exactly what they were describing.
John E

Berlin, Germany

#9 Apr 8, 2012
And the parents who can't train the kids straight kick them out on the streets. Obviously because authority outweighs unconditional love.
Christian Taliban

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Apr 8, 2012
Snickers wrote:
This study proves nothing....I thank God for my parents whose good parenting has given me a blessed life, just the kind that I wanted to live.
You're a DIVORCED, babbling, anti rational bigot who drips with passive aggressive hate.

You'd make a better parody than Church Lady ever did.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#11 Apr 9, 2012
Snickers wrote:
This study proves nothing but that good parenting is effective and you CAN train your children to be heterosexual. I know you gays think you have to be "true to yourself," but that often just means indulging yourself, even with your worst traits. Good parenting also stops people from acting on the impulse to strangle someone who irritates you or stealing something that you want and can't afford to buy. Gays, who keep claiming that they are "born this way" and that they "can't change their sexual desires," should be running and screaming from this article, not posting it on a gay forum. It only proves that lots of people may have some same-gender attraction, yet they are able to control themselves and live the kind of lives they want to live - normal lives with marriage and children that are the true off spring of both the parents. I thank God for my parents whose good parenting has given me a blessed life, just the kind that I wanted to live.
You're a female; right?

“Child of the Universe”

Since: Aug 09

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

#12 Apr 9, 2012
Snickers wrote:
This study proves nothing but that good parenting is effective and you CAN train your children to be heterosexual. I know you gays think you have to be "true to yourself," but that often just means indulging yourself, even with your worst traits. Good parenting also stops people from acting on the impulse to strangle someone who irritates you or stealing something that you want and can't afford to buy. Gays, who keep claiming that they are "born this way" and that they "can't change their sexual desires," should be running and screaming from this article, not posting it on a gay forum. It only proves that lots of people may have some same-gender attraction, yet they are able to control themselves and live the kind of lives they want to live - normal lives with marriage and children that are the true off spring of both the parents. I thank God for my parents whose good parenting has given me a blessed life, just the kind that I wanted to live.
And with that popst, you lose any crediblity you might have had. And, it's spelled "offspring" - all one word.

Cliche, thy name is Snickers.

We are not snickering. We are collectively slowly shaking our heads at you, and wondering how an obviously otherwise intelligent person can be missing so vital a link.

“Child of the Universe”

Since: Aug 09

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

#13 Apr 9, 2012
"post". I have big fingers and am trapped in a keyboards-designed-for-small-f ingers world...
Snickers

Grove City, PA

#14 Apr 9, 2012
And I suppose this guy's parents shouldn't have tried to potty train him:

http://townhall.com/columnists/stevedeace/201...

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#15 Apr 9, 2012
Homophobia is taught by parents or the influences of older people in their life.

“You'll love me!”

Since: Sep 10

I promise.

#16 Apr 9, 2012
Snickers wrote:
This study proves nothing but that good parenting is effective and you CAN train your children to be heterosexual.
If you have to train your children to be heterosexual then they were indeed born gay. If they were born heterosexual you wouldn't have to "train" them to do anything, now would you?
Snickers wrote:
I know you gays think you have to be "true to yourself," but that often just means indulging yourself, even with your worst traits.
No one is perfect and no one is saying you should indulge anything harmful or hateful or violent--it only means acknowledging and accepting every part of yourself. That's the only way you can move beyond and above it.
Snickers wrote:
Good parenting also stops people from acting on the impulse to strangle someone who irritates you or stealing something that you want and can't afford to buy.
Lots of people have good parents and still commit truly unspeakable crimes. Under the right circumstances anyone could take a life, or be compelled to steal. Even you. Would you steal food for your family if they were on the streets, dying, and you had nowhere else to turn? If you had nothing else to do? That's a reality for plenty of people around the world, sweetheart.
Snickers wrote:
Gays, who keep claiming that they are "born this way" and that they "can't change their sexual desires," should be running and screaming from this article, not posting it on a gay forum. It only proves that lots of people may have some same-gender attraction, yet they are able to control themselves and live the kind of lives they want to live - normal lives with marriage and children that are the true off spring of both the parents.
It means they're living a lie. I don't like the closet analogy, because it isn't accurate. A more accurate one would be a mask. These people are wearing masks. They might be married with their own biological children--but are they happily married? Is a dying or dead marriage, is an openly hostile marriage, better for their children than no marriage at all? Why should -ANYONE- have biological children in the first place? For the sake of having them? Simply calling yourself heterosexual, simply pretending you are, doesn't make it so. Sleeping with someone of the opposite sex doesn't make you heterosexual either if there isn't a genuine attraction there, Snick.

The truth is, not everyone wants children and not everyone wants what many browbeaters would consider a "normal" life. I certainly don't want a "normal" life. Why should I, or anyone else for that matter, aspire to be "normal?" What's so great about it?
Snickers wrote:
I thank God for my parents whose good parenting has given me a blessed life, just the kind that I wanted to live.
You're a closeted homophobe. We already knew that, but thanks for confirming it for us. You just became Exhibit A and validated everything this study said.
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms

Philadelphia, PA

#17 Apr 9, 2012
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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You're a female; right?
Snickers is another DIVORCED, "religious" freeek lecturing others on marriage and intimate relationships.

I think the creature and filth is male, although it comes across as very female. Not that there's anything wrong with that...unless you're a male identified misogynist and homophobe. Then it's just really creepy.
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Apr 9, 2012
Snickers wrote:
And I suppose....
You are sub human, outlier filth. Never forget that. We won't, bigot.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#19 Apr 9, 2012
Qwerty wrote:
I think it's pretty common knowledge that many homophobes harbor secret homosexual tendencies. This study not only confirms that, but adds the role of authoritative families into the mix, which makes a lot of sense.
It will be interesting to see more details of how this study was conducted.
If the pro-gay are going to tout this, they are in for a vicious fight. I support this study and these findings; I have had my suspicions about the antigay and the homophobic. But the pro-gay should be aware that the antigay and homophobic *viciously* dispute findings of this ilk -- so viciously, in fact, that their basic go-to is to make fun of them, so savagely that (if you haven't encountered it) you can barely imagine it.

The pro-gay will be scorned between here and eternity, made vicious, vicious fun of, and held up as objects of ridicule, as if they are engaging in "WISHFUL THINKING" and as if they have noooo idea what they are talking about, laughably so.

Not one jot of this should deter the pro-gay from tirelessly and continually making these points, absolutely and positively *no matter what*; in fact, they should as vehemently and endlessly hold up the reactions as PROOF AND EVIDENCE of what science and psychology purport.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#20 Apr 9, 2012
Snickers wrote:
This study proves nothing but that good parenting is effective and you CAN train your children to be heterosexual. I know you gays think you have to be "true to yourself," but that often just means indulging yourself, even with your worst traits. Good parenting also stops people from acting on the impulse to strangle someone who irritates you or stealing something that you want and can't afford to buy. Gays, who keep claiming that they are "born this way" and that they "can't change their sexual desires," should be running and screaming from this article, not posting it on a gay forum. It only proves that lots of people may have some same-gender attraction, yet they are able to control themselves and live the kind of lives they want to live - normal lives with marriage and children that are the true off spring of both the parents. I thank God for my parents whose good parenting has given me a blessed life, just the kind that I wanted to live.
I have never said this to you before, and it's finally time.

You are an honest-to-god fucking jackass.

Seriously.

NO ONE ALIVE is disputing that gay people cannot change it but the virulently antigay, who NEVER stop disputing it yet have absolutely no evidence!, none, of their contentions. Their contentions come from antigay hatred and they come from hysterical, hysterical adherence to "biblical word," to the point that people like you come off as monstrous, hatefully vicious Nazis, showing ZERO respect to your fellow human beings and trying to force and force and force a viewpoint *you'd logically know nothing about* upon others; you *certainly* cannot possibly know more than science or psychology would, but your AGENDA keeps you fighting with people who far more deserve support and who deserve to be treated with humanity.

You are an honest-to-god fucking idiot; it's about time I said it. You're the type of person I see as a goddamn embarrassment to humanity.

Seriously.

No wonder half the board treats you like shit.

It becomes clearer and clearer to me every single day.

You bring it on yourself, quite frankly.

What the hell is *wrong* with you people? Christ.

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