Princeton profs show us what an evenh...

Princeton profs show us what an evenhanded discussion of global warming would look like

There are 6 comments on the The Jersey Journal story from Sep 27, 2012, titled Princeton profs show us what an evenhanded discussion of global warming would look like. In it, The Jersey Journal reports that:

Happer has been attacked verbally over the issue for arguing that scientists need to follow proper scientific procedures in analyzing the threat from man-made global warming.

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SpaceBlues

United States

#1 Sep 27, 2012
Much vocal, screaming dissenters bring no fairness to science communication.

Only and only evidence is the ruling class in science.

Where's your evidence to the contrary?
PHD

Houston, TX

#2 Sep 27, 2012
Any time now the dirtling will be spewing useless babble tainted with hate covered with spam cut and paste hot air for it's evidence.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#3 Sep 27, 2012
The idiocy of this article is clear.

First evidence. They claim that Al Gore has 'theories'. Fact is that he published a documentary on the science of others. But this is just the first distortion. Trying to shift the author to someone of lesser authority.

Second evidence. They do not show a single FACT that contradicts the ultimate science authorities. Instead they want a 'watered down' statement, not supported by the science (and the APS ought to know if anyone). Then their criticism is that so much SERIOUS science is out there that no crackpot theory can get a real hearing. Fact is that a LOT of 'out there' science is continually being reviewed and rebutted by the facts and other scientists.

So the scientific method, applied to the article, says it is a bogus piece of political theater.
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#4 Sep 28, 2012
from the article

Austin, Happer, and a handful of other scientists urged the APS to rescind this statement in favor of one stating,“While substantial concern has been expressed that emissions may cause significant climate change, measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th- and 21st-century climate changes are neither exceptional nor persistent, and the historical and geological records show many periods warmer than today.” It goes on to say that other forces, such as ocean cycles and solar variability, also might account for rising temperatures.“Current climate models,” it concludes,“appear insufficiently reliable to properly account for natural and anthropogenic contributions to past climate change, much less project future climate.”

All of the above statements are true.

"ocean cycles and solar variability, also might account for rising temperatures...."

Actually, ocean cycles and solar variablity have been shown to have contributed to the last 160 years of warming.

" “Current climate models,” it concludes,“appear insufficiently reliable to properly account for natural and anthropogenic contributions to past climate change, much less project future climate.” "

The above statement has been shown to be true many times.

" measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th- and 21st-century climate changes are neither exceptional nor persistent.."

True, our current temps and the rate of increase over the last 160 years is not unusual or unprecedented.

One very real example of a lack of historical evidence is the fact that the scientists are regularly adjusting the historic data. Last November and again this past summer, the record has been revised. Again the historic temps were reduced and the current temps increased.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#5 Sep 28, 2012
Fun Facts wrote:
from the article
Austin, Happer, and a handful of other scientists urged the APS to rescind this statement
A statement based purely on scientific inquiry and solid methodology.
Fun Facts wrote:
in favor of one stating,
A politically motivated and designed statement proposed by a VERY few right wing radicals.

But science keeps faith with the scientific method and tell them to piss up a rope.
SpaceBlues

United States

#6 Sep 30, 2012
Fun Facts wrote:
from the article

"ocean cycles and solar variability, also might account for rising temperatures...."
Actually, ocean cycles and solar variablity have been shown to have contributed to the last 160 years of warming.
" “Current climate models,” it concludes,“appear insufficiently reliable to properly account for natural and anthropogenic contributions to past climate change, much less project future climate.” "
The above statement has been shown to be true many times.
" measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th- and 21st-century climate changes are neither exceptional nor persistent.."
True, our current temps and the rate of increase over the last 160 years is not unusual or unprecedented.
One very real example of a lack of historical evidence is the fact that the scientists are regularly adjusting the historic data. Last November and again this past summer, the record has been revised. Again the historic temps were reduced and the current temps increased.
Dishonest moron. And you claim you're a fan of the scientific method.

You twist, lie, misrepresent.

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