'A painful process': HSU Academic Sen...

'A painful process': HSU Academic Senate moves forward with pro...

There are 114 comments on the Eureka Times Standard story from Apr 2, 2010, titled 'A painful process': HSU Academic Senate moves forward with pro.... In it, Eureka Times Standard reports that:

With a looming April 20 deadline to make recommendations to the provost, the Humboldt State University Academic Senate is continuing with the arduous task of singling out academic programs for elimination.

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Wow

Windsor, CA

#3 Apr 2, 2010
Eliminate the nursing degree? That would be another big F-U to Humboldt County. Where do you think most of the nurses at St. Joe's and Mad River come from? Great, kill a nursing program amid a statewide nursing shortage and one vital to this county. While you're at it, close your science museum in Arcata with one hand while trying to build one in Eureka with your other hand. Does HSU do anything that makes sense?
H ESS YOU

United States

#4 Apr 2, 2010
Humboldt is known as a good science school, and you're going to eliminate chemistry and physics. Why even have a school then?
Circle of Jerks

Eureka, CA

#5 Apr 2, 2010
H ESS YOU wrote:
Humboldt is known as a good science school, and you're going to eliminate chemistry and physics. Why even have a school then?
It just makes sense to eliminate programs that benefit the future of mankind like nursing and the basic sciences but lets keep Art! That way when we as a society evolve back into primates we will still have the ability to express ourselves with fingerpaints and glued macaroni on copy paper.
Piled Higher and Deeper

Mckinleyville, CA

#6 Apr 2, 2010
How does Philosophy cost $200,00 + and Sciences about half as much?

How does Computer Sciences cost only $60,000? What you have a couple of people with H.S. Diploma's teaching?
Piled Higher and Deeper

Mckinleyville, CA

#7 Apr 2, 2010
Didn't the highly important and absolutely useless Kinesiology major just get started to the tune of a whole lot more than $68,644.
Some people with big salaries to match unrealistic big plans should be fired
That would save some.
Clarification

Windsor, CA

#8 Apr 2, 2010
The chart in the newspaper is totally misleading. The numbers listed are NOT the number of degrees issued by each department. The numbers are a ranking for which departments issue the most degrees.

So, the Nursing Department having the lowest ranking of 7 is actually better than the other departments because Nursing produces more graduates.
Blast from the past

Windsor, CA

#9 Apr 2, 2010
>Humboldt is known as a good science school

You are stuck in the 1970s. HSU diversified with liberal arts. It's now a generic school.
neomoderate

San Francisco, CA

#10 Apr 2, 2010
Christ, what the heck are they thinking? This is a Science school with a long history of producing strong graduates. What about the liberal arts majors? This school NEEDS sciences, they are what built it. They produce fewer graduates because they are more difficult. Idiots in the administration...
reality

United States

#11 Apr 2, 2010
congrats liberals! this is what you voted for. this is also a good economics lesson for the students.
grey davis quadrupled taxes on big business thinking he would collect more tax revenue. big business, like yakima in arcata, all left california resulting in LESS tax revenue being collected. these businesses are NEVER coming back. get used to it. you dumb liberals should have stopped your spending increases right then.
when the feds run out of money they simply print more. states can't print money. when the state runs out it has to make cuts.
last summer there was a budget battle between liberals and arnold. remember the shutdown and iou's being issued? the battle was over spending. arnold wanted a balanced budget. liberals wanted to spend $40 billion more than we had. we compromised and spent $20 billion more than we had. now we have to make $20 billion in cuts. if you liberals had it your way we would now be making TWICE the number of cuts.

you get what you vote for.
how's that hope, change, and deficit spending working for you?

maybe you'll be rewarded with another tuition increase.
comment

United States

#12 Apr 2, 2010
So with what curriculum is HSU going to entice new recruitment's with? How are they going to fill those new dormitories? This seems like a vicious downward spiral.
Nursing Student

Windsor, CA

#13 Apr 2, 2010
The newspaper got it wrong. This claim is flat wrong: "average number of degrees awarded annually."

The number indicates which programs produce the most graduates. I can tell you the nursing program graduates *60* students every year, not 7.

Given that the elementary education degree is ranked 6 (even better) and is one of the least costly programs, it means the whole elimination process is whack. Why consider eliminating a program that costs very little, but produces a huge number of graduates (more than 60 obviously)?
Nursing Student

Windsor, CA

#14 Apr 2, 2010
Oh, wait, unless the objective is to protect science programs and get rid of programs that some administrator dislikes on a philosophical level. You could do so by pulling together two very different groups of programs and then giving a newspaper statistics that are easily misunderstood.
Philo

Eureka, CA

#15 Apr 2, 2010
reality wrote:
congrats liberals! this is what you voted for. this is also a good economics lesson for the students.
grey davis quadrupled taxes on big business thinking he would collect more tax revenue. big business, like yakima in arcata, all left california resulting in LESS tax revenue being collected. these businesses are NEVER coming back. get used to it. you dumb liberals should have stopped your spending increases right then.
when the feds run out of money they simply print more. states can't print money. when the state runs out it has to make cuts.
last summer there was a budget battle between liberals and arnold. remember the shutdown and iou's being issued? the battle was over spending. arnold wanted a balanced budget. liberals wanted to spend $40 billion more than we had. we compromised and spent $20 billion more than we had. now we have to make $20 billion in cuts. if you liberals had it your way we would now be making TWICE the number of cuts.
you get what you vote for.
how's that hope, change, and deficit spending working for you?
maybe you'll be rewarded with another tuition increase.
You're funny...I appreciate your sarcasm, since you can't be serious. This is a nice parody of those extremist teabaggers who will blame anything on a "liberal"...wait...a re you being serious? If you are, then you are so far off base you aren't even in the ballpark.

Save HSU, the lifeblood of Humboldt County. Eliminating many of these programs is unbelievably short-sighted. Building new dorms while eliminating academic programs is foolish.
justsaynomore

Santa Rosa, CA

#16 Apr 2, 2010
Keep nursing, you fools. Where would we get employees to work in all our local hospitals?

This is unbelieveable. Why not close the whole campus the way you're swinging that price cutter ax. It sure aint a lumberjack ax any mo'
Ivan the Terrible

Arcata, CA

#17 Apr 2, 2010
WILD... hand the knife to the faculty, and say start cutting... a pound of flesh.

This is dark, but what better way to teach the teachers that the time to get lean and mean is here.

Where do you cut your first pound from, then Faulk wants everyone to learn to target the second spot... and the state budget is worse now than last year... dark.
Eurekean

Eureka, CA

#19 Apr 2, 2010
College of the Redwoods has a nursing program(RN). Many of the nurses working local hospitals attended CR. HSU has NEVER been a science school. At best a liberal arts schools. There are other State post secondary schools that could pick up HSU's small enrollments and many have the same degree programs already.

Close HSU down!! The community can survive without it. Time to remake Arcata and remake HSU into an economic product driven industrial park. Or a regional High School. Closing down the existing High Schools would save a bundle of money that could be rerouted into academics and vocational training.
ERE

Arcata, CA

#20 Apr 2, 2010
How did the Environmental Resources Engineering department get grouped together with French and Music? The ERE program is the most impressive major on campus. They deliver on awards, graduates, and public service. The enrollment in ERE has almost DOUBLED in the last few years while the engineering majors remain the hardest working undergrads on campus. This may sound callous, but I find it hard to believe French and Music majors contribute as much as ERE to the community and campus.
Umm

Windsor, CA

#21 Apr 2, 2010
What this article also fails to understand is that at the Academic Senate meeting each department gets one speaker. If you show up to speak about your favorite program, you will be sorely disappointed at getting to say nothing.
Rhonda

Redway, CA

#22 Apr 2, 2010
Eliminating sciences and keeping the art program is absurd. Have you seen the crap that comes out of the art department at that school? A one armed monkey blindfolded could produce better art. What a waste of a degree.
Umm

Windsor, CA

#23 Apr 2, 2010
Oh, and Eurekean, by all means, if you want to be treated by a nurse who has 2 years of community college experience instead of a full 4-year RN from HSU trained by PhD instructors, you go right ahead and roll those dice.

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