Cooler Pacific 'Is Slowing Warming'

Cooler Pacific 'Is Slowing Warming'

There are 5 comments on the Truthdig story from Sep 1, 2013, titled Cooler Pacific 'Is Slowing Warming'. In it, Truthdig reports that:

Scientists believe they have made significant progress towards explaining why global average surface temperatures have risen more slowly this century than previously.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Truthdig.

Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#1 Sep 1, 2013
If the natural process is causing cooling then the same natural process in it's opposite phase caused the warming.

Add in the highest levels of solar activity recorded in the last 400 years, just so happened to have occurred at the same time as the positive phase of the PDO, and you get global warming.

The sun is in a very low activity phase and the PDO is negative, cooling is in our future.

When the PDO switches back to positive approx 25 years from now, the sun is predicted to still be in a low activity phase.

The solar prediction is based on historical patterns and solar inertial motion. This process was used to correctly predict our current cycle 24 activity.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#2 Sep 1, 2013
It is well known that CO2 warms the planet, but less well-known that it also makes the alkaline seas more acidic when it is absorbed from the air.

Absorption is particularly fast in cold water so the Arctic is especially susceptible, and the recent decreases in summer sea ice have exposed more sea surface to atmospheric CO2.

The Arctic's vulnerability is exacerbated by increasing flows of freshwater from rivers and melting land ice, as freshwater is less effective at chemically neutralising the acidifying effects of CO2.

The researchers say the Nordic Seas are acidifying over a wide range of depths - most quickly in surface waters and more slowly in deep waters.

The report’s chairman, Richard Bellerby from the Norwegian Institute for Water Research, told BBC News that they had mapped a mosaic of different levels of pH across the region, with the scale of change largely determined by the local intake of freshwater.

“Large rivers flow into the Arctic, which has an enormous catchment for its size,” he said.

“There’s slow mixing so in effect we get a sort of freshwater lens on the top of the sea in some places, and freshwater lowers the concentration of ions that buffers pH change. The sea ice has been a lid on the Arctic, so the loss of ice is allowing fast uptake of CO2.”

This is being made worse, he said, by organic carbon running off the land – a secondary effect of regional warming.

“Continued rapid change is a certainty,” he said.

“We have already passed critical thresholds. Even if we stop emissions now, acidification will last tens of thousands of years. It is a very big experiment.”

The research team monitored decreases in seawater pH of about 0.02 per decade since the late 1960s in the Iceland and Barents seas.

Chemical effects related to acidification have also been encountered in surface waters of the Bering Strait and the Canada Basin of the central Arctic Ocean.

Scientists estimate that the average acidity of surface ocean waters worldwide is now about 30% higher than before the Industrial Revolution.
[from bbc]

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#3 Sep 2, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
If the natural process is causing cooling then the same natural process in it's opposite phase caused the warming.
Despite the deep oceans absorbing heat, lower solar irradiance and increased aerosols from coal burning and volcanic activity, the world is not actually cooling is it?

Even in a cherry picked period beginning with a super El Nino and ending with two La Nina years, it's not actually cooling is it?

On the other hand, over the last few decades, it has warmed a lot.

If the world were cooling, your argument would be valid.

But it's not, is it?
Cordwainer Trout

Sonora, KY

#4 Sep 2, 2013
Inherent scholastic dishonesty really stinks.

Lomborg On Cook 97% Survey:“It Turns Out They Have Done Pretty Much Everything Wrong”
http://notrickszone.com/2013/08/28/lomborg-on...

New paper finds global carbon cycle datasets may be biased
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2013/08/new...
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#6 Sep 22, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Inherent scholastic dishonesty really stinks.
Lomborg On Cook 97% Survey:“It Turns Out They Have Done Pretty Much Everything Wrong”
http://notrickszone.com/2013/08/28/lomborg-on...
New paper finds global carbon cycle datasets may be biased
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2013/08/new...
Real dishonesty for you?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HycUxn3fW2Q/UaVrhDz...

Today Anthony Watts puts up a chart of what he says is the rate of change of global sea level using a ten-year running mean of the sea level change each decade. Problem is not only that he forgot some of the data, he forgot that like him, lots of his readers are chart illiterate and confuse rate of change with total actual change. Or did he. Is it any more likely he was counting on that? Anthony's not very bright when it comes to charts.

http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2013/05/anthony-wa...

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Oceanography Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Pope urges revolution to save Earth, fix 'perve... Jun 25 Sterkfontein Swar... 30
News Pope urges revolution to save Earth, fix 'perve... Jun 21 pazuzu 7
News Inter-decadal Pacific Oscillation Explains Glob... Apr '15 SpaceBlues 1
News Japanese reactor radiation detected off B.C. coast Apr '15 RDL 2
News Shrinking of Ice Shelves Raises Sea Level Concerns Apr '15 Earthling-1 10
News Pakistan earthquake island belching poisonous gas (Sep '13) Mar '15 MOMIN ANSARI 17
News Head of Episcopal Church: Denying Climate Chang... Mar '15 Cordwainer Trout 2
More from around the web