Does "Global Warming Pause" Debate Mi...

Does "Global Warming Pause" Debate Miss Big Picture?

There are 10 comments on the National Geographic story from Sep 25, 2013, titled Does "Global Warming Pause" Debate Miss Big Picture?. In it, National Geographic reports that:

The United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is meeting in Stockholm, Sweden, this week to iron out the final details of a widely anticipated report on the current state of global warming science.

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Cut n Paste

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Sep 26, 2013
Gavin "Schmidt pointed out, however, that the real anomaly in the recent climate record is not the last decade but the year 1998, which saw a sharp spike in atmospheric temperatures. "If you take 1998 out, there is no pause," he said. According to NASA data, the ten hottest years since 1880 have all happened since 1998, with 2010 being the hottest of all."
... and that's a "fact"!
Cut n Paste

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Sep 26, 2013
"The Columbia Glacier in Alaska, seen in 2006 (top) and 2012 (bottom). Photographs by James Balog"
As Ice Ages come to an end Glaciers tend melt with or without Anthropogenic contributions.
Cut n Paste

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Sep 26, 2013
CO2 is NOT the primary driver of climate after all.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v501/n74...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#4 Sep 26, 2013
Cut n Paste wrote:
CO2 is NOT the primary driver of climate after all.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v501/n74...
Excellent paper.

Pretty much answers the question in the title.

Random ocean fluctuations influence climate in the short term, but when we take these into account, our understanding of climate processes and the long term warming is sound.

So, yes, talking about a short term effect is interesting but it shouldn't distract from talking about what we know adding CO2 will do to the temperature of the planet in the long term.
litesong

Monroe, WA

#5 Sep 26, 2013
The UW, working with the Coast Guard, started a program of ocean research coupled with Coast Guard objectives.
http://summitcountyvoice.com/2012/10/04/globa...

This new program, which started as an efficient program has burgeoned because science research goes where it has to. Yeah, re-pubic-lick-uns are trying to send the program to the morgue, saying, "no one needs no steenking science!".
Cut n Paste

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Oct 9, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
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Excellent paper.
Pretty much answers the question in the title.
Yes it is and yes it does. It is a balanced report on one of the latest computer models demonstrating the inadequacies of previous models and subsequently flawed forecasts of warming in the 21st century.

"[1] Numerous websites, blogs and articles in the media have claimed that the climate is no longer warming, and is now cooling. Here we show that periods of no trend or even cooling of the globally averaged surface air temperature are found in the last 34 years of the observed record, and in climate model simulations of the 20th and 21st century forced with increasing greenhouse gases. We show that the climate over the 21st century can and likely will produce periods of a decade or two where the globally averaged surface air temperature shows no trend or even slight cooling in the presence of longer-term warming."

Well written.
Cut n Paste

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Oct 9, 2013
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#8 Oct 9, 2013
To establish the historical bounds of climate variability, Mora’s team used 39 climate models to assemble projections on 7 environmental variables, such as near-surface air temperature and precipitation, for the years 1860–2005. The researchers then ran simulations for the next 100 years to identify the years in which climate variables are predicted to exceed historical limits in various locations.

They found that aggressively cutting greenhouse-gas emissions to stabilize the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would delay the timing of Earth's overall ‘climate departure’ by 22 years, until 2069.“Twenty years is not a lot of time, but it could be a window of opportunity to prepare ourselves to adapt to these new climate conditions,” says Mora.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#9 Oct 9, 2013
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#10 Oct 9, 2013
Cut n Paste wrote:
see my last post..

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