Sea level rise: It's worse than we thought

Jul 2, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: New Scientist

FOR a few minutes David Holland forgets about his work and screams like a kid on a roller coaster.

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<quoted text>Tides are the rise and fall of sea levels caused by the combined effects of the gravitational forces exerted by the Moon and the Sun and the rotation of the Earth.They let scientific science fiction fool them.
How does gravity make tides rise on the opposite side of the Earth from the Moon/Sun?
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How does gravity make tides rise on the opposite side of the Earth from the Moon/Sun?
Pure majic.

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<quoted text>Pure majic.
Thought so! Not a clue. Science is all "majic" to you.

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Not on a flat surface with nothing pushing it. Newton's first law is a mass at rest will remain at rest unless an outside force causes it to move. At that will only happen with the force exceeds the affect of friction. A mass of ice four kilometres thick is going to require a good deal of energy to put it into motion and when it is traveling over rock it is dealing with a good deal of friction. Which means not all that ice will ever reach the ocean if there isn't a source of energy to move it.
Sounds like you never heard about a force called gravity.
And yeah, Newton knew all about it.

LOL. you are so clueless.

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to Tina How do you think glaciers flow, idiot?
Yeah, the ignorance is stunning no?

Did you see where she told me Mercury really was hotter than Venus; and the reason Venus was hot had nothing to do with CO2, it was its air pressure.

I pointed out we have higher pressure in some parts of the ocean than on Venus -- and no, it's still very cold -- ie no spontaneous heat energy.

What an airhead. And she reads the most extreme right wing sites and spews out their nonsense too, whereas she believes every piece of crap they tell her.

Amazing. Guess, that's why she is a right winger.

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The University of Colorado's Sea Level Research Group just published the 2013 Release #1 of their Global Mean Sea Level Time Series. As it turns out, these are on the net all the way back to 2011 Release #1. So I downloaded all nine of them

2012 release #1 has 628 entries up to January of 2011 so I had Excel's slope function calculate the rate of sea level rise for that time series of 628 entries across all nine releases.

What I found is that the rate of sea level rise has been bumped up twice since then, once in 2011 and the the latest in the current release. Here's the graph to illustrate the point:

http://oi45.tinypic.com/2vmenpv.jpg

Coupled with the GIA increase of 0.3 mm/yr that was made prior to these nine releases the rate of sea level rise has been bumped up 0.43 mm/yr in the last few years.

This sort of thing has been going on more or less regularly and it seems to go only one. way.

Here are the links to the data:

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel1/...

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel2/...

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel3/...

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel4/...

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2012_rel1/...

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2012_rel2/...

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2012_rel3/...

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2012_rel4/...

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2013_rel1/...
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What an airhead. And she reads the most extreme right wing sites and spews out their nonsense too, whereas she believes every piece of crap they tell her.
Amazing. Guess, that's why she is a right winger.
She's in God's Navy. True religion in the hands of some is like a jug of nitro glycerin in the hands of a toddler...in a crowded room.

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Steve Case wrote:
The University of Colorado's Sea Level Research Group just published the 2013 Release #1 of their Global Mean Sea Level Time Series. As it turns out, these are on the net all the way back to 2011 Release #1. So I downloaded all nine of them
2012 release #1 has 628 entries up to January of 2011 so I had Excel's slope function calculate the rate of sea level rise for that time series of 628 entries across all nine releases.
What I found is that the rate of sea level rise has been bumped up twice since then, once in 2011 and the the latest in the current release. Here's the graph to illustrate the point:
http://oi45.tinypic.com/2vmenpv.jpg
Coupled with the GIA increase of 0.3 mm/yr that was made prior to these nine releases the rate of sea level rise has been bumped up 0.43 mm/yr in the last few years.
This sort of thing has been going on more or less regularly and it seems to go only one. way.
Here are the links to the data:
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel1/...
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel2/...
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel3/...
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2011_rel4/...
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2012_rel1/...
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2012_rel2/...
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2012_rel3/...
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2012_rel4/...
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/files/2013_rel1/...
Well, professor Excel, it looks like it's either a gigantic Liberal conspiracy, or sea level really is rising.
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....... that's why she is a right winger.
As all planes do that only have a right wing,'tiny-minded anne' crashed long ago. All brain cells on-board died. They were able to identify her, because her right wing was still attached to her Ass, another reason why she crashed.

re-pubic-lick-uns were never scientific, mathematically gifted & knew nothing of engineering. They attached the wing to her ass, thinking that her farts would fly the plane.
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As all planes do that only have a right wing,'tiny-minded anne' crashed long ago. All brain cells on-board died. They were able to identify her, because her right wing was still attached to her Ass, another reason why she crashed.
re-pubic-lick-uns were never scientific, mathematically gifted & knew nothing of engineering. They attached the wing to her ass, thinking that her farts would fly the plane.
And you think topix doesn’t know what you publish? Attacks on me won't delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

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How do you think glaciers flow, idiot?
On a flat level surface they don't.

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Sounds like you never heard about a force called gravity.
And yeah, Newton knew all about it.
LOL. you are so clueless.
Yes, Newton did and you seem to not know about gravity. Without gravity there would be no friction between a glacier and the rock it rests on.

Also insults are a sign of someone who is loosing an argument.

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The movement of ice under its own weight is what we call a "fact". This is because we can observe it happening.

http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/ess0...

Moron.
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The fairy lame said moron so that would make it a less-on.

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As all planes do that only have a right wing,'tiny-minded anne' crashed long ago. All brain cells on-board died. They were able to identify her, because her right wing was still attached to her Ass, another reason why she crashed.
re-pubic-lick-uns were never scientific, mathematically gifted & knew nothing of engineering. They attached the wing to her ass, thinking that her farts would fly the plane.
Sea level is rising, but it isn't rising like your side of the coin wants it to. Tell me why they need to cook the books. Tell me that they aren't cooking the books but why it looks like they do.

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Tell me that they aren't cooking the books but why it looks like they do.
Because you resolutely refuse to learn amy science?
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"pinheadlitesout” couldn’t explain it self out of a brown paper bag. The brown paper bag is real. "pinheadlitesout” is full of useless cut and paste scientific science fiction babble.
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Sea level is rising, but it isn't rising like your side of the coin wants it to... that they aren't cooking the books but why it looks like they do.
Hey Steve, a belated Happy New Year.

Because your side lost the election?

Get used to it per the antiGOP public!
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They are anti GOP Blue Dog public. Except for all the sheeplebots.

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Steve Case wrote:
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Sea level is rising, but it isn't rising like your side of the coin wants it to. Tell me why they need to cook the books. Tell me that they aren't cooking the books but why it looks like they do.
First, if they were cooking the books why would they need to do it via a correction, huh?

Second, the BEST evidence is not from sea level rising.

We have something called satellites that are measuring the glacier and ice cap loss.

Surveying on the ground shows the same.

The USGS has been monitoring the mass balance of three glaciers in the Pacific Northwest and in Alaska for nearly 50 years. This mass balance record is now sufficient to interpret glacier responses to short- and long-term climate changes in the Pacific Northwest, the Alaska Coast, and the Alaska interior. What have we learned so far?

*All three glaciers have lost mass since USGS monitoring began more than four decades ago.

*Mass loss has accelerated during the last 15 years, coincident with the highest melt years on record.

*Mass balance of the coastal South Cascade and Wolverine Glaciers correlate well with the PDO during the first few decades of the period of record, showing the effects of ocean-condition periodicity on glacier health.

*This correlation has weakened during the last two decades, as global average temperature has increased.

*Mass turnover has increased throughout monitoring and the trend of increase has become stronger during the last two decades.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2009/3046/

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