Wanna lower grocery bill? Think climate-change solutions, researcher says

Feb 7, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Leader Post

Want another reason to care about what humans are doing to the environment? How about the cost of groceries? Climate-change expert Thomas Pedersen, director of the B.C.-based Pacific Institute for Climate Solutions, will lay out the latest changes our climate is facing during a free lecture in Montreal Tuesday.

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This article may sound convincing to those who don't stop to think about the obvious and Anne Sutherland, the writer of it is one of those.
What governs the cost of everything we buy?
Oil.
Oil is used in every aspect of our lives, including preparation of land, planting, harvesting of crops and every other process of any goods one cares to mention.
Sorting, processing, packaging, freezing, cooking, canning, transporting, shipping for export and to retail outlets, plus the fuel we use to collect them.
Every one of those processes will cost more as the price of oil increases.
So don't expect your grocery bill to be lower any time soon, it never has.

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Everything we do in our daily life may cost the earth's life as well. If we continue with the obvious which is unhealthy lifestyle that can add to the chaos, we are jeopardizing the next generation's future without even trying.

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kennethpautz wrote:
Everything we do in our daily life may cost the earth's life as well.
I trust you mean life on Earth, Ken?
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If we continue with the obvious which is unhealthy lifestyle that can add to the chaos, we are jeopardizing the next generation's future without even trying.
Population growth is unhealthy at the current rate.
What changes would you like to see happen that are feasible to make or lifestyle healthy?
Are you doing anything in particular to help make the world a better place?

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.....to make 'our' lifestyle healthy?
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From the article:
""Corn prices go up in a domino effect, but the damage to the Gulf of Mexico is more serious. Nitrogen-rich run-off from the corn fields flows down into the Gulf, the plankton get fertilized and when they die, decomposition of the huge amounts of plankton eats up oxygen. There are parts of the Gulf that are now dead zones."

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Wan... ;

According to this article the farmers in Mexico who are raising corn are destroying the planet. Well in the name of 'global warming' we should stop them. Eating is a luxury that we can't have in a warming world.

While we are at it. We need to stop irrigating in southern California. Most of our fruits and veggies come from this area, but the extrodinary input of water into the atmosphere has in fact changed the local weather. Before it has an impact on 'global warming' we should demand they stop producing food.

If the Mexican's don't get the luxury of eating why should we? If enough people don't eat then populations will go down and fewer people would result in less man made global warming. Is this the real solution?

Everything we do impacts our world. When you flushed the toilet this morning you contributed to man made global warming if you listen to the experts. If we give up toilets someone will tell us why burying it in the backyard is pollution.

Do the best you can to use the resources available in the most efficient way you can.

This earth will not be negatively impacted even if the temps go up 10*. You and I may find it a more difficult place to live in, but the earth will be just fine.

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"Two pees or a poop before you flush the loo" is what my parents decreed in the 60s and 70s.
Dad was born in 1895, mum was born in 1911.
Ask the youngsters of today if they think before they flush?

We had chicken once a year at Christmas when I was young, now I can eat it any time I like.
Is that because I'm special or lucky?
Probably, because in many parts of the world, people can't afford to eat chicken ever and we're living in the 21st century, not countries recovering from a world war.
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"Two pees or a poop before you flush the loo" is what my parents decreed in the 60s and 70s.
Dad was born in 1895, mum was born in 1911.
Ask the youngsters of today if they think before they flush?
Yes, they do. Here in the dry US West the mantra is, "if it's yellow let it mellow; if it's brown flush it down".

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Yes, they do. Here in the dry US West the mantra is, "if it's yellow let it mellow; if it's brown flush it down".
Interesting, that's exactly the same rhyme my daughter has taught her children, in not too dry Essex, England.
It's good to know that my parent's ways have somehow been passed down through three generations without my assistance.
It would appear that all is not entirely lost.

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It is funny how someone trained as an oceanographer is now giving advice about agraculture. Of course it is even better because we are suppose to take his word that he knows what he is talking about when he claims that man is the cause.

Of course he is ignoring several things that drive up the cost of food. One of which is ehtanol which is made out of food stuffs. Several years ago the alarmist were aware enought of this that they were talking about other sources of biomass such as sawgrass and saw dust. Of course years later an this ideas have yet to show anything dispite all the demostration plants.

Another thing he seems to ignore for the reason why the cost of food is going up is the cost of oil has risen. The various chemicals used to increase yields is made from oil not to mention the fuel to move them from place to place, run the equiptment and even haul the raw material to be processed and the processed goods to market not to mention in some cases the very packaging is all made from oil. Of course you could use other materials which of course leaves even less food on the shelves.

Of course his lecture was free and in this case people got exactly what they paid for.

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tina anne wrote:
It is funny how someone trained as an oceanographer is now giving advice about agriculture.
Not really, just look at this forum, where advice about all subjects, including climatology, comes from people who know as much about it as the man in the moon.

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<quoted text>I trust you mean life on Earth, Ken?<quoted text>Population growth is unhealthy at the current rate.

Yes, of course, on earth.

What changes would you like to see happen that are feasible to make or lifestyle healthy?
Are you doing anything in particular to help make the world a better place?
Well it may sound very minimal, I quit smoking. 1 less to emit the gaseous/smoke that pollutes the air. Simple, but I try.

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Yes, of course, on earth.
I guessed that, but you wrote, "earth's life" originally.
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Well it may sound very minimal, I quit smoking.
Congratulations.
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1 less to emit the gaseous/smoke that pollutes the air. Simple, but I try.
Maybe Asians should stop burning joss sticks?
Think of all those candles burning in churches as well?
It would take a lot of non-smokers to make up for one small forest fire.

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kennethpautz wrote:
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Well it may sound very minimal, I quit smoking. 1 less to emit the gaseous/smoke that pollutes the air. Simple, but I try.
Actually your still emitting Methane and CO2. Both are emitted from every human no matter what thier lifestyle is.

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<quoted text>Congratulations.
Haha... Thank you.
<quoted text>Maybe Asians should stop burning joss sticks?
Think of all those candles burning in churches as well?
It would take a lot of non-smokers to make up for one small forest fire.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I can only speak for myself. Like the old saying says, One can make a difference. I try. Who knows, others can try as well.

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Actually your still emitting Methane and CO2. Both are emitted from every human no matter what thier lifestyle is.
True that, I did not say I still contribute to the air pollution, I just thought I could try to help. Anyhow, its just me.

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Yeah, I know what you mean. I can only speak for myself. Like the old saying says, One can make a difference.
"As the old lady said when she pissed in the sea."
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I try. Who knows, others can try as well.
For every person who gives up breathing, more than two replace them:
http://www.worldometers.info/

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True that, I did not say I still contribute to the air pollution, I just thought I could try to help. Anyhow, its just me.
Considering all you didn't do anything. Consider the fact that the tobacco was removing CO2 from the air and part of it remained locked up in the ash.

Then again the pro AGW crowd has always been about gestures and not results.
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Considering all you didn't do anything. Consider the fact that the tobacco was removing CO2 from the air and part of it remained locked up in the ash.
Then again the pro AGW crowd has always been about gestures and not results.
You don't even understand that fire is oxidation? You see, carbon in the tobacco leaf chemically bonds with oxygen, which goes up in the air as CO2, which absorbs extra solar heat, which is what this whole discussion is....oh, shit, I give up.

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oh, shit, I give up.
If only you would.
Spreading doom and gloom really isn't the best way to spend your free time, a brisk walk would make you feel much better when you feel low.

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Quantitative easing, QE2, America's dollar policy of lending and spending trillions has an effect on commodity prices.

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