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North Shore shark tours OK, study finds - Hawaii News

There are 303 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jul 15, 2009, titled North Shore shark tours OK, study finds - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Because of remoteness of North Shore shark encounter tours and other conditioning factors, researchers say the tours do not pose a threat to public safety.

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Von

Aiea, HI

#21 Jul 15, 2009
alice wrote:
too expensive for me
I'll treat you next time your on that side.
Jaws

Degerfors, Sweden

#22 Jul 15, 2009
Munch, crunch, chum chow.
oahuan

Kahului, HI

#24 Jul 15, 2009
HawaiiaNYC wrote:
Can't believe people were trying to ban the tours in the first place, especially when there is not a single piece of fact-based evidence that suggests these shark tours increase the chances of attacks on humans. Its okay to have a healthy fear of sharks, but its another thing to use a natural fear as leverage to close an industry.
And Hawaii needs any revenue stream in can get at this time. Lets support local business, not create more barriers.
amen.... fear,ignorance, and stupidity...i'm almost ashamed to say that i grew up in hawaii kai. the growth of people and infrastructure in the last 20 years have not done the town any good.
oahuan

Kahului, HI

#25 Jul 15, 2009
alice wrote:
lots of sharks out here are human
that's the 1st time i've ever heard you make any sense...keep it up.
Bogey1

San Diego, CA

#26 Jul 15, 2009
The real argument is about tempting hungry sharks with blood and tourist bodies in a cage. The only benefit is to the tour owners wallets.

Sooner or later sharks may learn where the "beef" is, or finding the "beef" outside a cage.
Greg Knudsen

San Diego, CA

#27 Jul 15, 2009
Let's see... This study was paid for by the tour operators, the "researchers" used data collected by the tour operators ("We didn't see any dangerous sharks. Really."), and, if you want to read the study yourself, it costs you $20 at the journal's web site. Do the "researchers" get a cut of that, too?
Greg Knudsen

San Diego, CA

#28 Jul 15, 2009
Last month, DLNR removed an underwater mooring buoy offshore from Hawaii Kai that fishermen and ocean recreation users said was being used to establish another feeding area for sharks and shark tours.

This study does confirm that illegal feeding causes sharks to congregate. The North Shore tours claim their area was established by discarded clam bait. Well, maybe, but the shark tours perpetuate the risk.

The number of shark attacks in recent years hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten better, either. Without illegal feeding by the shark tours, the risk would decrease.
swannie

Ocean View, HI

#29 Jul 15, 2009
Feed the sharks. Lots of healthy hungry sharks. Then cut off the food supply.

Since: Feb 09

Honolulu, HI

#30 Jul 15, 2009
Confused wrote:
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What if I use live fish as bait for something else and I hook a shark? Wouldn't that be considered "chumming" the water?
Why don't you use your brain for bait. You might be able to catch something microscopic.
shark boy

Lanai City, HI

#31 Jul 15, 2009
Enough already leave these guys alone not only do they provide a great service but they do so much for the community.
BushPilot

Bethel, AK

#32 Jul 15, 2009
Seriously, I'm tired of reps like Ward telling me HE needs to protect ME (the public), this is not a goddamn nanny-state I live in (at least not according to anything that the nations and this spit of rocks constitution says), personally I think we should legislate against the "Ainokea" mentality before we try banning shark tours.
Confused

Honolulu, HI

#33 Jul 15, 2009
Copius231 wrote:
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Why don't you use your brain for bait. You might be able to catch something microscopic.
I caught you didn't I?
Freediver007

San Diego, CA

#34 Jul 15, 2009
Read the law that is supposedly being broken. It says you are exempt if you pose no threat to the health and safety of the public. No increased attacks since the tours began = no threat to public safety. Move along, complain about something else, they're NOT breakling the law. Try to be informed instead of just opinionated.
hanaleigirl

Honolulu, HI

#35 Jul 15, 2009
My family who have been in hawaii for 2 generations, and mostly fisherman, have been on this tour 3 times now, i have taken ohana from the mainland as well as our own ohana here too. I dont know about the science part, all I can say is it opened up my eyes as to all the elegal shark finning around the world, they were very adimit about teaching us about trying to save the resourse we have left. Every one is intitled to there opion, i just wish the folks who bad mouth these tours would at least try and go out to see the truth.The company I use has been in business they say for over 8 years, I dont remember reading of increased shark atacts on the north shore? These guys only went out of there way to educate us, I can see now we have only let our fears cloud our judgement, thats my opinon. I think its hard in this day and age to belive some people actually cares, go try see your self.
JPP

Lanai City, HI

#36 Jul 15, 2009
I think we should ban people like Gene Ward ^%$%$@$%%!&^*()(*&^%$ what do you think
hanaleigirl

Honolulu, HI

#37 Jul 15, 2009
Greg Knudsen wrote:
Last month, DLNR removed an underwater mooring buoy offshore from Hawaii Kai that fishermen and ocean recreation users said was being used to establish another feeding area for sharks and shark tours.
This study does confirm that illegal feeding causes sharks to congregate. The North Shore tours claim their area was established by discarded clam bait. Well, maybe, but the shark tours perpetuate the risk.
The number of shark attacks in recent years hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten better, either. Without illegal feeding by the shark tours, the risk would decrease.
It is great to hear other studies done on the north shore area!! Please tell us your study done on the decrease of attacts on the north shore! I dont remember them telling us that it would decease...it has stayed the basic same..that is not good enough? Whats next, fisherman cant Palu the water for fishing? I would give you more credit if you used the word "may" decrease...you are only guessing, at least these guys went out of there way to do a study...think the scientist are wrong? Please investigate and post again as soon as possible!
Ted Nugent Nation

Wailuku, HI

#38 Jul 15, 2009
hanaleigirl wrote:
My family who have been in hawaii for 2 generations, and mostly fisherman, have been on this tour 3 times now, i have taken ohana from the mainland as well as our own ohana here too. I dont know about the science part, all I can say is it opened up my eyes as to all the elegal shark finning around the world, they were very adimit about teaching us about trying to save the resourse we have left. Every one is intitled to there opion, i just wish the folks who bad mouth these tours would at least try and go out to see the truth.The company I use has been in business they say for over 8 years, I dont remember reading of increased shark atacts on the north shore? These guys only went out of there way to educate us, I can see now we have only let our fears cloud our judgement, thats my opinon. I think its hard in this day and age to belive some people actually cares, go try see your self.
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You're not from a family of English teachers, that's for sure, but I like what you have to say!
hanaleigirl

Honolulu, HI

#39 Jul 15, 2009
Ted Nugent Nation wrote:
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You're not from a family of English teachers, that's for sure, but I like what you have to say!
Tanks!! LOL!

Since: Feb 09

Honolulu, HI

#40 Jul 15, 2009
Confused wrote:
<quoted text>
I caught you didn't I?
Hahahaha touche.

Since: Feb 09

Honolulu, HI

#41 Jul 15, 2009
Freediver007 wrote:
Read the law that is supposedly being broken. It says you are exempt if you pose no threat to the health and safety of the public. No increased attacks since the tours began = no threat to public safety. Move along, complain about something else, they're NOT breakling the law. Try to be informed instead of just opinionated.
Well, this is one way of looking at it and is the core of this issue. Should we wait until something does happen? When it does, then how many occurences should we allow before taking action against it? Shold we take a "proactive" approach or a "reactive" one and "wait until something does happen?" Or, should we use cases from other states like Florida - shark attacks did increase as shark tour businesses increased. Ultimately they were banned. so when we have 20 similar business operating in the same area, "then" shark attacks occur, only then should we take action? The answer is pretty clear. You freedive huh? Wouldn't that be ironic? Guess it boils down to "persepctive."

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