North Shore shark tours OK, study finds - Hawaii News

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Because of remoteness of North Shore shark encounter tours and other conditioning factors, researchers say the tours do not pose a threat to public safety.

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HawaiiaNYC

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Can't believe people were trying to ban the tours in the first place, especially when there is not a single piece of fact-based evidence that suggests these shark tours increase the chances of attacks on humans. Its okay to have a healthy fear of sharks, but its another thing to use a natural fear as leverage to close an industry.

And Hawaii needs any revenue stream in can get at this time. Lets support local business, not create more barriers.
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At the entrance to Yellowstone National Park is a big sign. DO NOT FEED THE BEARS.
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HawaiiaNYC wrote:
Can't believe people were trying to ban the tours in the first place, especially when there is not a single piece of fact-based evidence that suggests these shark tours increase the chances of attacks on humans. Its okay to have a healthy fear of sharks, but its another thing to use a natural fear as leverage to close an industry.
And Hawaii needs any revenue stream in can get at this time. Lets support local business, not create more barriers.
Yes heaven knows there is not already enough to see and do, lets invent MORE ways to part the toruists from their money. Perhaps dig a big pit and fill it with scorpions and spiders and then lower them in a cage so they can get up close and personal with them.
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"The team also said the effects of a diesel-powered vessel operating several kilometers offshore appear to trigger a conditioned feeding response from sharks".

It's not only shark tour boats with diesel engines that operate out of Haleiwa. There are scores of sport fishermen and subsistance fishermen also operating in the same area. And if the sharks are attracted to the sound of diesel engines, what's to keep them from entering the harbor itself since that is the biggest source of sound. And if the report is true about the sound of diesel engines triggering a feeding respone, what's to keep them from following any boat to inshore waters.
The report is misleading in that it makes the reader believe that crab fishermen have been dumping bait all over the place. The truth is that there is only 1 crab fishermen and it's been that way for a long time, going back to the 60's.
And the report completely ignores state law and federal law, both which prohibit chumming.
I think the researchers involved in this study want to avail themselves of the sharks attracted to the area and don't want to see them dispersed. So the prepared this report to protect their own personal goals.
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Mark my word all is goodie, goodie now until one of the sharks bites your head off.

It will happen then everyone will say, hummmmmm now that is very strange?

I know it will happen and I told you so. Yes true it never happened before, but now you don't have a head :)

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The tour isn't "OK" with the legislators and the greenies that control them.
Facts? Facts?,, Don't try to confuse me with FACTS.
LOL LOL LOL
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This really deflates the anti business do-gooders. But they keep trying to look for more to protest. The fact is there have been shark tours in other polynesian island nations for many years. They are so successfull that they actually saved the sharks. For an added benefit fish stocks has risen in the areas where there were no fish. Hawaii has too many folk people who try to do good but are really just making it bad for local people. The missionary mindset still lives on.
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Flexo wrote:
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I think the researchers involved in this study want to avail themselves of the sharks attracted to the area and don't want to see them dispersed. So the prepared this report to protect their own personal goals.
Gee, maybe we should have unqualified folks with big mouths and wild opinions dictate environmental policy.
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The owners of the shark tour companies , when given the opportunity, never came before our elected officials or our community to answer the simple question, are you feeding sharks to bring them to the shark viewing cages for tourists?

It is unfortunate the Star-Bulletin did not ask this most important and simple question of the shark tour operators and report the answer to our community. A former employee of the shark tour company in the North Shore is quoted in the Associated Press in April of 2009 saying sharks are being fed on the shark tours. This is illegal.

Dr. Meyers, who is involved in the UH study, said at a public briefing in May 2009 that the shark tour owners are feeding the sharks to bring them to the cages. This is illegal.

It is difficult to take this particular scientific study from UH seriously when information for and about shark tours is gathered through the illegal activity of feeding sharks.

The sharks do not gather at the spot because of the crabbing grounds, they are being fed, This is illegal

Go to www.safewatersforhawaii.com to view video footage as recent as June of 2009 of sharks being fed.

www.safewatersforhawaii.com
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HawaiiaNYC wrote:
And Hawaii needs any revenue stream in can get at this time. Lets support local business, not create more barriers.
Are you suggesting the end justifies the means?
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Arm chair QB wrote:
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Gee, maybe we should have unqualified folks with big mouths and wild opinions dictate environmental policy.
we already have that.
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lots of sharks out here are human
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Flexo wrote:
"I think the researchers involved in this study want to avail themselves of the sharks attracted to the area and don't want to see them dispersed. So the prepared this report to protect their own personal goals.
You hit the nail on the head. Besides the operations being illegal under state and federal laws, here are links to a few web pages that describe the dangers of Galapagos and Sad bar sharks. Not quite as harmless as these UH researchers made them out to be.

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Descrip...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_attacks
http://www.sharksurvivor.com/sharks/sandbarsh...
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too expensive for me
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kulafan wrote:
This really deflates the anti business do-gooders. But they keep trying to look for more to protest. The fact is there have been shark tours in other polynesian island nations for many years. They are so successfull that they actually saved the sharks. For an added benefit fish stocks has risen in the areas where there were no fish. Hawaii has too many folk people who try to do good but are really just making it bad for local people. The missionary mindset still lives on.
They are illegally feeding the sharks.
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Is this the same Gene Ward who was qouted last month as saying that "sharks have been around for centuries." I kindly corrected, sharks have been around for millions of years, not centuries, Mr. Ward.
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so if I am out night fishing and land an Ulua and a shark eats a portion of the Ulua, does that mean I am illegally feeding sharks?

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HawaiiaNYC wrote:
"Can't believe people were trying to ban the tours in the first place, especially when there is not a single piece of fact-based evidence that suggests these shark tours increase the chances of attacks on humans."

See Florida shark tours and attacks.

"And Hawaii needs any revenue stream in can get at this time. Lets support local business, not create more barriers."

One business model. The blanket application you suggest is not relevant and inaccurate to this issue. The issue is a business model, practice that jeapordizes the safety of others. Big difference and, no, we should not sell out just to create revenue. This is precisely the mentatlity that has ruined contemporary society - the desire for greed at any expense. Time to put some integrity back into the process.

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Confused wrote:
so if I am out night fishing and land an Ulua and a shark eats a portion of the Ulua, does that mean I am illegally feeding sharks?
One word: "intent." It is obviously not your intent to purposely feed the shark with the fish you are trying to catch. However, if you caught the fish and chummed the water to purposely "feed the sharks" then the context would change and yes you woud be guilty of violating this law.

Unless this is your "attempt" at humor...it is actually pretty funny.
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Copius231 wrote:
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One word: "intent." It is obviously not your intent to purposely feed the shark with the fish you are trying to catch. However, if you caught the fish and chummed the water to purposely "feed the sharks" then the context would change and yes you woud be guilty of violating this law.
Unless this is your "attempt" at humor...it is actually pretty funny.
What if I use live fish as bait for something else and I hook a shark? Wouldn't that be considered "chumming" the water?

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