Arctic reverses trend, is warmest in two millennia

There are 20 comments on the Sep 3, 2009, Sun-Bulletin story titled Arctic reverses trend, is warmest in two millennia. In it, Sun-Bulletin reports that:

The Arctic is warmer than it's been in 2,000 years, even though it should be cooling because of changes in the Earth's orbit that cause the region to get less direct sunlight.

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Raptor in Michigan

Howell, MI

#1 Sep 3, 2009
Maybe I'll look to the Arctic to get out of the cold Michigan winters.
JRS

Oak Creek, WI

#2 Sep 3, 2009
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
Maybe I'll look to the Arctic to get out of the cold Michigan winters.
The fool AGW crisis peddlers have said that the warmth in the arctic has caused the cold to leave thus making the earth colder. I suppose they figure there are enough other fools to buy that excuse why we are having record cold events.

Since: Aug 08

Pittsburgh, PA

#3 Sep 3, 2009
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
Maybe I'll look to the Arctic to get out of the cold Michigan winters.
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jrs wrote:
The fool AGW crisis peddlers have said that the warmth in the arctic has caused the cold to leave thus making the earth colder.
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litesong wrote:
jrs remembers our discussions from last winter, but does not accurately report them & Raptor in Michigan doesn't know the following, tho he accidentally says the right words:
A cold front out of the Arctic set Maine's lowest recorded temperature.
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/green/greenbl...
During the same period Maine set its coldest ever recorded temperature because of the cold front that moved OUT OF THE ARCTIC, warm air had moved into the 18 million square mile Arctic region, bringing sea ice freezing to a STOP. It was the longest period of the 2008-2009 Arctic freezing season in which ice STOPPED freezing for 11 days. The day of Maine's lowest ever recorded temperature was in the middle of that 11 day Arctic 'stop freezing period'. Lest you need reminding, the Arctic 11 day stop freezing period occurred while the Arctic had been in complete & cold darkness for 3+ months.
seemorebetter

Clarksville, TN

#4 Sep 4, 2009
I have noticed The change in The climate in Alaska and the South east U S......In the last 61 years

Is I t just hope on Raptor and others that deny,a Man made problem is indeed ,ruining the Earth?

Berlin - Climate change is killing valuable coral reef systems, a United Nations-backed report published on Wednesday warned.
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#5 Sep 4, 2009
Not Again! Media Promoting Arctic 'Hockey Stick'- Claim Temps Warmest in 2000 Years - But Scientists Already Rebuking Latest Study

"The study in under fire for basing key results and conclusions on Penn State Professor Michael Mann's discredited “Hockey Stick” temperature graph.(Editor's Note: Mann just recently attempted to invent a hurricane "Hockey Stick" as well."

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/2769/Not-Again-...

Mikey just loves "Hockey Sticks".

Maybe even "obsessed" with Hockey Sticks?

Evidence of a Cult Mentality?...what do you think...Litesong-ody?
Earthling

Muro De Alcoy, Spain

#6 Sep 4, 2009
Here's the good news:
Earth isn't moving toward another ice age very quickly, so we should all be happy.

Since: Aug 08

Pittsburgh, PA

#7 Sep 4, 2009
Gord wrote:
Evidence of a Cult Mentality?..
You're right. The brian_g 'ganghood' rides strongly across the plains with the setting sun in the background. They left behind the usual dirty deniers, Lintzen (smoking advocate), Soon, Singer, Mcintyre, Easterbrook, Stott, etc. to give an air of authority. Some in the group seem to be small enough that they can be called quickly together to glue a denial piece together. Also, they have some extra glue right now, since they made-up some phoney name similar to IPCC. They figure anyone googling for IPCC information may come across them too, & they can make a few extra pennies on the internet.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#8 Sep 4, 2009
And the bad news: humanity has cooked the climate even more than we thought.
Earthling

Muro De Alcoy, Spain

#9 Sep 4, 2009
Northie wrote:
And the bad news: humanity has cooked the climate even more than we thought.
Note to LessFactMoreHype.
JRS

Oak Creek, WI

#10 Sep 4, 2009
Northie wrote:
And the bad news: humanity has cooked the climate even more than we thought.
COOKED THE CLIMATE!

ONE DEGREE OVER ONE HUNDRED YEARS and what is the conclusion by the idiot AGW crisis peddlers? "humanity has cooked the climate even more than we thought"

ROFLMHO!

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It is all a fraud

I love this "and fast" alarm peddling part
"From Alaska to the snowy peaks of the Andes the world is heating up right now, and fast. Globally, the temperature is up 1°F (.5°C) over the past century,"
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0409/fe...

The best guess average temp of the earth is 59 F. thus the sun and earth's core warms the planet 514 degrees F from the space temp of MINUS 455 F

The GW peddlers would like us to believe that after the sun warms this planet 514F then a 1 degree F variation from this 514F is a crisis caused by man.

The GW peddlers know full well that the science is phony and it is a power and money grab con that is really underway.

"No matter if the science is all phony, there [are] collateral environmental benefits...climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world."
Christine Stewart, Canadian Environment Minister, Calgary Herald, December 14, 1998
http://www.mtmultipleuse.org/endangered/esahi...
truthist

Houston, TX

#11 Sep 4, 2009
"The 20th Century is the first century for which how much energy we're getting from the Sun is no longer the most important thing governing the temperature of the Arctic," said another of the study team, Nicholas McKay from the University of Arizona.

The recent warming of the Arctic has manifested itself most clearly in the drastic shrinkage in summer sea-ice extent, with the smallest area in the satellite era documented in 2007.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/823...

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#12 Sep 4, 2009
What they are really saying it that the predictions they made back in the seventies about a coming ice age were wrong and it is warmer than those predictions were.

The real news is that not that artic is warmer than it was two thousand years ago but that two thousand years ago it was warmer than it was four thousand years ago. It is warmer because there was a ice age and that ended and the natural progression is that after a ice age the planet warms up.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#13 Sep 4, 2009
JRS wrote:
<quoted text>
COOKED THE CLIMATE!
ONE DEGREE OVER ONE HUNDRED YEARS and what is the conclusion by the idiot AGW crisis peddlers? "humanity has cooked the climate even more than we thought"
ROFLMHO!
==
It is all a fraud
I love this "and fast" alarm peddling part
"From Alaska to the snowy peaks of the Andes the world is heating up right now, and fast. Globally, the temperature is up 1°F (.5°C) over the past century,"
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0409/fe...
The best guess average temp of the earth is 59 F. thus the sun and earth's core warms the planet 514 degrees F from the space temp of MINUS 455 F
The GW peddlers would like us to believe that after the sun warms this planet 514F then a 1 degree F variation from this 514F is a crisis caused by man.
The GW peddlers know full well that the science is phony and it is a power and money grab con that is really underway.
"No matter if the science is all phony, there [are] collateral environmental benefits...climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world."
Christine Stewart, Canadian Environment Minister, Calgary Herald, December 14, 1998
http://www.mtmultipleuse.org/endangered/esahi...
JRS, I think I'm ready. Ready to embrace the Word of the Lord and to smite those who would blaspheme his Holy Book of Genesis. Ready to deny the lies of evolutionists. Ready to take up the flaming sword of righteousness against those who would honor the works of man before our Holy scriptures!

I'm ready, JRS! I am ready! Receive me!

Just kidding.

“WEATHER is not CLIMATE”

Since: Jun 08

Pasadena, TX

#14 Sep 4, 2009
JRS wrote:
<quoted text>

The GW peddlers would like us to believe that after the sun warms this planet 514F then a 1 degree F variation from this 514F is a crisis caused by man.
So why is the temperature in spaceso low???
Gee, might it just be that it is a vacuum? No molecules, no vibration or collisions. No vibration or collisions, no temperature. Come on. No matter what "side" you are on. Get a bit of science training.
JRS

Oak Creek, WI

#15 Sep 4, 2009
Nacho Man wrote:
<quoted text>
So why is the temperature in spaceso low???
Gee, might it just be that it is a vacuum? No molecules, no vibration or collisions. No vibration or collisions, no temperature. Come on. No matter what "side" you are on. Get a bit of science training.
Dumb, very dumb.
Raptor in Michigan

Detroit, MI

#16 Sep 4, 2009
seemorebetter wrote:
I have noticed The change in The climate in Alaska and the South east U S......In the last 61 years
Is I t just hope on Raptor and others that deny,a Man made problem is indeed ,ruining the Earth?
Berlin - Climate change is killing valuable coral reef systems, a United Nations-backed report published on Wednesday warned.
May I suggest you and Litesong and some of the other global warming believers stand at the edge of the Arctic and let your bodies block the cold air from leaving the region. Ridiculous, huh? In other words, there is nothing you can do to change it, so get over it.
Raptor in Michigan

Detroit, MI

#17 Sep 4, 2009
Earthling wrote:
Here's the good news:
Earth isn't moving toward another ice age very quickly, so we should all be happy.
Good. I can't handle winter heating bills higher than they are now. My furnace is already turning on at night and it has been since the end of August.
Raptor in Michigan

Detroit, MI

#18 Sep 4, 2009
tina anne wrote:
What they are really saying it that the predictions they made back in the seventies about a coming ice age were wrong and it is warmer than those predictions were.
The real news is that not that artic is warmer than it was two thousand years ago but that two thousand years ago it was warmer than it was four thousand years ago. It is warmer because there was a ice age and that ended and the natural progression is that after a ice age the planet warms up.
Ever feel like you're wasting your time? They just don't get it.
Gord

Calgary, Canada

#19 Sep 4, 2009
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right. The brian_g 'ganghood' rides strongly across the plains with the setting sun in the background. They left behind the usual dirty deniers, Lintzen (smoking advocate), Soon, Singer, Mcintyre, Easterbrook, Stott, etc. to give an air of authority. Some in the group seem to be small enough that they can be called quickly together to glue a denial piece together. Also, they have some extra glue right now, since they made-up some phoney name similar to IPCC. They figure anyone googling for IPCC information may come across them too, & they can make a few extra pennies on the internet.
Nah, Mikey Mann is still mad at McIntyre for breaking his first Hockey Stick.

Mikey should give up Hockey and find something he is good at.

Goalie for a dart team?

Since: Aug 08

Pittsburgh, PA

#20 Sep 4, 2009
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
..........and Litesong and some of the other global warming believers.........
You didn't bother with me much. Now, you're mad at me because I pointed out your racism. The solution to your bad case of racism, is to not be racist.

I still find it hard to believe a bird lover is racist. Always thought that those who adored nature would be the last to endorse the savage side of humanity.

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