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Homosexual behavior due to genetics and environmental factors

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Homosexual behaviour is largely shaped by genetics and random environmental factors, according to findings from the world's largest study of twins.

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Doubt it

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#47 Sep 1, 2008
Although homosexual activists claim they are no more likely to sexually molest children than heterosexuals are, Reisman says research proves the opposite.
"They're claiming that homosexuals are not looking to have sex with boys, yet you have this massive number of boys out there prostituting themselves. And how do you have all these Internet sites if they're not looking for boys? This is not heterosexual. By definition, when you're having sex with someone of your own sex, that's homosexual," Reisman said.
Based on data from a study of non-incarcerated child sex offenders, Gene G. Abel, M.D., has found that homosexuals "sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring five times greater than the molestation of girls."
A professor of psychiatry who has taught at several medical schools, including Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, Abel is currently affiliated with Emory University School of Medicine and Morehouse School of Medicine. He has been a research scientist in the field of sexual violence for 25 years, and the National Institute of Mental Health has awarded him funding for six long-term studies to investigate sexual violence and to design new ways to stop it.
Specifically, Abel's report provides data to show that, on average, 150.2 boys are molested per homosexual pedophile offender, whereas only 19.8 girls are molested per heterosexual pedophile offender. Incredibly, homosexual offenders admitted between 23.4 and 281.7 acts of molesting boys.
Based on the government's own statistics -- the "Statistical Abstract of the United States, 1992, Data on Boys and Girls," published by the U.S. Commerce Department -- Reisman cited the following for that year:
Of 86 - 88 million heterosexual men, 9 percent of them victimized 8 million girls under age 18, which constitutes 25 percent of all girls.
An uncertain percentage of the estimated 2 million homosexual men victimized 6-8 million boys, under age 18, amounting to 17 - 24 percent of all boys.
Therefore, considered in the aggregate, 3 to 4 boys are sexually molested per homosexual adult male.
Only .09 girls are sexually molested per heterosexual adult male, which is to say that, on average, 1 in 11 heterosexual males victimizes a girl under 18.
Within the child protection establishment, sexual abuse is defined simply as an adult having sex with a juvenile under age 18 -- whether "consensual" or not. When dealing with children, "consensual" is not the legitimizing criterion it is for adults. Indeed, almost invariably, sexual predators defend their "loving" physical relationships with children as being "consensual," when in reality the seduction and manipulation of children -- resulting in their "consent" -- is both an art form and the stock in trade of pedophiles.
The Simon and Schuster book "Homosexualities," by Alan Bell, reports that 25 percent of homosexual men admit to having had sex with boys who are 16 or under.
Further corroborating this well-hidden homosexual proclivity for targeting younger males are the following findings published in the Journal of the American Medical Association:
50 percent of male AIDS victims reported having sex with an adult male by the age of 16.
20 percent of male AIDS victims had sex with an adult male by age 10.
"The Advocate," a popular homosexual newsmagazine, conducted a survey of its readers. Of the 2,500 responses obtained, 21 percent admitted that an adult man committed a sexual act with them by the time they were 15.
'The ideal situation' Boy Scout camping trips provide a perfect setting for homosexuals to pursue their forbidden desires, according to Reisman, who added that any organization that provides opportunities for homosexuals to spend time with young boys will become a magnet for homosexual child molesters.
Doubt it

United States

#48 Sep 1, 2008
In fact, Justice Ignazio Ruvolo of the First District Court of Appeals in San Francisco recently ruled that the Boy Scouts of America should be held responsible for a Southern California scout's sexual molestation at the hands of a pedophile scout leader. Why? In making his case that the Scouting organization -- despite a comprehensive national program to prevent sexual abuse -- should have done even more to protect kids from pedophiles, the judge said, "It should be reasonably foreseeable to the Scouts that a child participating in Scouting might fall prey to a sexual predator."
Attorney Charles A. Bonner, representing the victim who had been molested back in 1991 by his assistant scoutmaster, Jorge Paz, was even more direct. He said BSA national leaders know that "the organization attracts pedophiles like a magnet attracts metal."
Of all the various youth groups today, "the Boy Scouts provide the ideal situation" for men to find young boys to molest, according to Reisman.
The 'helping hand'
In Gilbert Herdt's book, "Gay and Lesbian Youth," Douglas Feldman, a medical anthropologist and a member of the homosexual activist community, is quoted as saying, "These kids are our future and we must invest in them." Feldman states that teen-agers are "very susceptible to sexually transmitted diseases," and that sexually abused boys "have about a 1 in 4 chance of developing AIDS in approximately five years."

Herdt speaks of adult male homosexuals as "coaches" and "guides" who should help young boys overcome their heterosexual "victim" status by "coming out" into homosexuality.

Reisman blames the nation's public schools and lawmakers for granting various protections to such "coaches" and "guides" within the nation's schools.

"They teach confused children about tolerance, sexual diversity and such. They like to tell young boys that 'at least one in 10 of you are gay.' Anyone who objects is immediately labeled homophobic," she said.

In his study, "The Role of Adult Advisors" (as quoted from Herdt's "Gay Culture in America"), homosexual advocate Frederick Lynch says, "What has not been brought out fully in some other coming-out studies is the role of the guide, teacher or 'helping hand' in either the signification state, the coming-out stage or both ... the often benign and helpful role that older, more experienced homosexual men play with regard to younger (males)."

Reisman is concerned that educators have embraced the homosexual agenda and now encourage boys to have sex with each other at an early age. One of the places such experimentation could easily take place is in a tent during a Boy Scout camping trip, she said. Boys who have been told that experimentation is acceptable may also be willing to accept the advances of an adult male or older boy, she added.

"They tell these impressionable kids that if they feel different, confused, strange, or if they are questioning, that they may be gay," she said. "What child isn't confused at that age, anyway? These kids don't know what to think, and then they're told it's OK to experiment to find out."
Doubt it

United States

#49 Sep 1, 2008
Project 10
School programs like "Project 10" -- a nationally used public school curriculum which has been a prototype for other similar programs -- teaches students that 1 out of every 10 children is a homosexual. Without question, claims Reisman, such programs serve as a catalyst for the seduction and homosexual recruitment of young people. She adamantly disputes the 1 in 10 claim, as do many other researchers. But she goes much further: Reisman blames the press for not exposing what she says is the core deception, one that began with "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" by Alfred Kinsey in 1948.

The text given to teens in the "Project 10" program is "One Teenager in 10." Reisman found that 38 percent of the short stories used in the text describe sexual activity between children and adults. One story begins:

"I have been a lesbian since I was 12. I had known my dance teacher for three years before she brought me out."

The claims made in the 1948 Kinsey report -- principally the claim that 1 in 10 people are homosexual -- have been used ever since both to legitimize homosexuality and to justify what increasingly amounts to open near-recruitment in the nation's schools. The recent, widely publicized event at Tufts University in which youths as young as 14 were taught the finer points of "fisting" and other homosexual practices -- by Massachusetts state employees -- is typical. That particular event was "outed" and its participants rebuked only because a "mole" critical of the program attended it and taped the entire event, subsequently making the tape available to the news media.

The media, however, never bothered to check Kinsey's methods or his data, says Reisman. And the burgeoning homosexual-rights movement, flexing its newfound muscle, used the Kinsey report as a battering ram to knock down society's traditional condemnation of homosexual behavior.

"They simply continued, with the support of the media, to repeat and to desensitize [the public] over and over and over again, until finally, at a certain point, people believed what they were being told," said Reisman. "Middle America never applied [the Kinsey report] to themselves, but their kids did. The kids believed it, and the kids believe it about their parents.

"It happened in the '60s when the kids talked about their parents being a bunch of hypocrites, because allegedly their parents engaged in all these sexual peccadilloes. See, the children went to college and their professors told them, and of course, the professors were engaged in such sexual peccadilloes. So Mom and Dad got smeared with the same brush. The American public came to believe Kinsey because all the authorities were saying this was true. It took on a life of its own once it got underway," said Reisman.

The homosexual activist movement's strategy, she says, is classic -- basically, that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will end up believing it. Repeat often enough that an apple is an orange, and sooner or later people will not only believe that an apple is an orange, but will argue the point and help persuade others to the same viewpoint.

"It took 50 years," Reisman concluded, "but here we are."

Since: Aug 08

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#50 Sep 1, 2008
Doubt it, have you ever met a pedophile?

Because I have. I'm related to one.

And he was married to a woman.

And he molested his daughters.

Not homosexual in any sense of the word.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#51 Sep 1, 2008
Dasein9 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right. I guess the reason I didn't address this is that the biology is just less interesting to me than the other issues surrounding homosexuality, like social justice and ethics. Oh, yeah, and that little thing Doubt It has so much trouble with -- the truth!
My comments were actually directed to the nut job from Hawaii from off the first page of the thread and the guy calling himself lairbear. It doesn't bother me when a thread strays off topic, just when those who think they are adressing the topic are just plain nuts....
Rep Kalihi 81-2002

Honolulu, HI

#52 Sep 1, 2008
albtraum wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm afraid you're making quantum leaps of faith on uneducated guesses. I would suggest you find some legitimate sources and cite them before you state your unlearned opinions as facts.
I was hoping someone would shed some light with this topic. Or a site or two that best explain what is gay and why. So that we can read and better understand gay men.

i am curious to what makes homosexual a homosexual.
Yes! I stated my opinion base on a friend and co worker who claimed to be gay.
I also have read or skim through some book regarding gays.

----

What confused me is. Acording to a books that I skimmed through, written by a well known journalist. it was mention that gay/women are born gay. it was aslo said that some already knew they were gay at a very young age. While, others find themselve wondering, and often realizing much later in their life.
The author also quoted, " with how society view gays, how and why would someone choose to?".

So according to the author, gays are born gay.
Some realized it later others never.

1...What makes me very curious, are those guys who jumped side and back. why?

2...Those who are very feminine, yet shows no sign or practice any homosexual act. they also live their life as a normal none gay men.

3...What is a gay men? Does sleeping with someone of the same sex, makes a person gay? if so, then there are far more gay women than men.

4...So the label gay does not always apply to anymen who sleep with other men?

Sorry for my typo, had to type with my 9 months old son on my lap.

Since: Aug 08

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#53 Sep 1, 2008
JaneKrahe wrote:
Doubt it, have you ever met a pedophile?
Because I have. I'm related to one.
And he was married to a woman.
And he molested his daughters.
Not homosexual in any sense of the word.
And to those who labeled this post spam and all that other garbage:

F U!!

Do you have any idea how hard it is be related to a fucktard like that?!?!

If not, then shut your fat mouths.
Steve33uk

Darlington, UK

#54 Sep 1, 2008
Yes Mr Doubt It from Houston - how wonderful, cut and paste sections of some phsycoanalysts reports onto this forum, but I am speaking for myself in that I am not a paedo, You must have been searching long and hard to find evidence like that to show us all. Yes, most childrens organisations such as the scouts, cubs, brownies whatever will want to put vigorous tests in place to make sure that kids remain safe.
If the stats shown are true then I am quite frankly a little surprised that the level of paedophilia has got to this level.

But the fact still stands, your gripe is with paedophiles - I know it exists and that Gays do it. But my last word - PLEASE DONT TAR ALL GAY MEN WITH THE PAEDOPHILE LABEL.
Rep Kalihi 81-2002

Honolulu, HI

#55 Sep 1, 2008
Dasein9 wrote:
<quoted text>
We ARE normal. And no, we're not paedophiles or rapists.
If you're discussing the particulars of sex acts with your kids, then you would be the one who's perverse.
I know few local gay men who are related to a very good friend of mine. At first, I feared them, why? I had no idea, I think it was more associating with them and others view of me aroud them. What I did realized is that, they are not a bad group of people, infact they are very intertaining and often helps me get girls number.

You seem to have a better understand to what is bein gay more than I will ever have.

So. may I ask if I may.
What defines gay?

Those who sleep with gay men, are they or should they be label as gay, too?

My wife's cousin is a male with 10 sisters and 1 other brother. He grew up surrounded with females. In his senior year he started to dressed up as a girl, later own dated and slept with other guys. Years later he is a man again with 3 kids of his own. I have spoken with him on several occasion, and I do notice a very feminine personality.

In your opinion is he gay? or something else?
If he was gay, then that does not explain why he manage to changed back and remain soo. I could be wrong, he might become gay again in the future... I don't know.

Was gay influenced upon him, due to his surrounding. like having soo many female sisters and often played dolls with them, when they were much younger..

This is just my theory.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#56 Sep 1, 2008
"Doubt it", there really is no real need to refute point by point your long plagiarized rant from the ever dubious source at the WorldNutDaily, there is only need to point out one very fundamental flaw in the good Dr. Reisman's screed to send the entire house of cards fluttering to the table it was built on. Although Dr. Reisman is accurate regarding here statistics regarding the molestation of boy by adult men the fatal flaw in her argument is that she characterizes all the perpetrators of such acts as homosexual when that has been repeatedly proved to be not the case. Boys have a far greater risk of being molested by a scout leader, coach, pastor, neighbor, so on and so forth, who is openly heterosexual than they do from someone who is openly homosexual. Despite Dr. Reisman's claims, the sex of the victim in no way indicates the adult sexual orientation of the perpetrator. Studies have repeatedly proved that openly homosexual men are no more likely to perpetrate child sexual abuse than their percentage of the population as a whole, roughly 2-3%. Men who have an adult sexual orintation toward women are known to commit more than 70% of the molestations of boys. Your paranoid fears of homosexual men stalking children are just that, paranoid, irrational and as has now been shown unsubstantiated fears. If you really want to protect your children you should be giving them the truth rather than your irrational bigotry, their "happily married" boy scout leader is far more likely to be a threat than one who is living openly as a gay man...

Substantiation for all information in this post can be found at:
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000...
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000...
Steve33uk

Darlington, UK

#57 Sep 1, 2008
Rick in Kansas wrote:
"Doubt it", there really is no real need to refute point by point your long plagiarized rant from the ever dubious source at the WorldNutDaily, there is only need to point out one very fundamental flaw in the good Dr. Reisman's screed to send the entire house of cards fluttering to the table it was built on. Although Dr. Reisman is accurate regarding here statistics regarding the molestation of boy by adult men the fatal flaw in her argument is that she characterizes all the perpetrators of such acts as homosexual when that has been repeatedly proved to be not the case. Boys have a far greater risk of being molested by a scout leader, coach, pastor, neighbor, so on and so forth, who is openly heterosexual than they do from someone who is openly homosexual. Despite Dr. Reisman's claims, the sex of the victim in no way indicates the adult sexual orientation of the perpetrator. Studies have repeatedly proved that openly homosexual men are no more likely to perpetrate child sexual abuse than their percentage of the population as a whole, roughly 2-3%. Men who have an adult sexual orintation toward women are known to commit more than 70% of the molestations of boys. Your paranoid fears of homosexual men stalking children are just that, paranoid, irrational and as has now been shown unsubstantiated fears. If you really want to protect your children you should be giving them the truth rather than your irrational bigotry, their "happily married" boy scout leader is far more likely to be a threat than one who is living openly as a gay man...
Substantiation for all information in this post can be found at:
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000...
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000...
Here Here, well said,
I bet it won't shut the cantankerous old curmudgeon up though - such a saddo, just sat at his PC thinking of ways to be an even bigger bigot.

Suggest Doubt it checks out the poll 'Who's ruining Topix?' cause he's one of the nominees.

Since: Aug 08

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#58 Sep 1, 2008
Doubt it, I'll ask again, because I actually do want to know:

Have you ever met a pedophile? Talked to him? Listened to him rationalize the abuse her perpetrated?

I looked my great-grandfather in the eye and asked him why he molested my grandmother, why he molested her sisters.

His answers were... well, crazy to say the least.

So, Doubt It, do you know any pedophiles personally?
lairbear

United States

#59 Sep 1, 2008
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text> My comments were actually directed to the nut job from Hawaii from off the first page of the thread and the guy calling himself lairbear. It doesn't bother me when a thread strays off topic, just when those who think they are adressing the topic are just plain nuts....
Well then, what constitutes a "Nut Job" within my post by "lairbear." I don't have a college education like some of you folks do. It was just my opinion stated. I don't have the research skills like some of you have. My experiences are those of 63 years on this earth.

I'm not God and I don't judge others.
Doubt it

United States

#60 Sep 1, 2008
JaneKrahe wrote:
Doubt it, have you ever met a pedophile?
Because I have. I'm related to one.
And he was married to a woman.
And he molested his daughters.
Not homosexual in any sense of the word.
no one said there were not hetro pedos but per capita gays way out do them in child sex.
Doubt it

United States

#61 Sep 1, 2008
JaneKrahe wrote:
<quoted text>
And to those who labeled this post spam and all that other garbage:
F U!!
Do you have any idea how hard it is be related to a fucktard like that?!?!
If not, then shut your fat mouths.
what gets me is you are a liberal usually you all condone anything that is freakish.
Doubt it

United States

#62 Sep 1, 2008
Steve33uk wrote:
Yes Mr Doubt It from Houston - how wonderful, cut and paste sections of some phsycoanalysts reports onto this forum, but I am speaking for myself in that I am not a paedo, You must have been searching long and hard to find evidence like that to show us all. Yes, most childrens organisations such as the scouts, cubs, brownies whatever will want to put vigorous tests in place to make sure that kids remain safe.
If the stats shown are true then I am quite frankly a little surprised that the level of paedophilia has got to this level.
But the fact still stands, your gripe is with paedophiles - I know it exists and that Gays do it. But my last word - PLEASE DONT TAR ALL GAY MEN WITH THE PAEDOPHILE LABEL.
OK hows this almost all of you are into kids

Since: Aug 08

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#63 Sep 1, 2008
Doubt it wrote:
<quoted text>no one said there were not hetro pedos but per capita gays way out do them in child sex.
Show us those "per capita" numbers. You

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#64 Sep 1, 2008
Doubt it wrote:
<quoted text>no one said there were not hetro pedos but per capita gays way out do them in child sex.
You still did not answer my question.

I am forced to conclude that you don't actually know what you are talking about.
Doubt it

United States

#65 Sep 1, 2008
Rick in Kansas wrote:
"Doubt it", there really is no real need to refute point by point your long plagiarized rant from the ever dubious source at the WorldNutDaily, there is only need to point out one very fundamental flaw in the good Dr. Reisman's screed to send the entire house of cards fluttering to the table it was built on. Although Dr. Reisman is accurate regarding here statistics regarding the molestation of boy by adult men the fatal flaw in her argument is that she characterizes all the perpetrators of such acts as homosexual when that has been repeatedly proved to be not the case. Boys have a far greater risk of being molested by a scout leader, coach, pastor, neighbor, so on and so forth, who is openly heterosexual than they do from someone who is openly homosexual. Despite Dr. Reisman's claims, the sex of the victim in no way indicates the adult sexual orientation of the perpetrator. Studies have repeatedly proved that openly homosexual men are no more likely to perpetrate child sexual abuse than their percentage of the population as a whole, roughly 2-3%. Men who have an adult sexual orintation toward women are known to commit more than 70% of the molestations of boys. Your paranoid fears of homosexual men stalking children are just that, paranoid, irrational and as has now been shown unsubstantiated fears. If you really want to protect your children you should be giving them the truth rather than your irrational bigotry, their "happily married" boy scout leader is far more likely to be a threat than one who is living openly as a gay man...
Substantiation for all information in this post can be found at:
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000...
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000...
for one thing you dont know what plagiarized means it seems since i posted all of the reference material you dumbass.. second of all nothing anyone shows a gay is cnosidered right if it doesnt fit their agenda. but the facts are facts and Kinsey Report was right about the vast majority of you all.
Doubt it

United States

#67 Sep 1, 2008
JaneKrahe wrote:
Doubt it, I'll ask again, because I actually do want to know:
Have you ever met a pedophile? Talked to him? Listened to him rationalize the abuse her perpetrated?
I looked my great-grandfather in the eye and asked him why he molested my grandmother, why he molested her sisters.
His answers were... well, crazy to say the least.
So, Doubt It, do you know any pedophiles personally?
Do yo know any rapeist personally or murderers? do you still know they rape and murder do you still agree with them? I dont need to know a freak to know one when i see it from just their actions to kids.

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