Intelligent Design Controversy

Intelligent Design Controversy

There are 17 comments on the About.com story from Nov 1, 2011, titled Intelligent Design Controversy. In it, About.com reports that:

Answer: Ever since Charles Darwin's The Origin of Species was published in 1859, the theory of evolution by natural selection has been the dominant explanation for biodiversity.

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“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#1 Nov 2, 2011
What controversy? ID died in 2005. Not that any serious biologists ever considered it to be alive.
Shadow

Moulton, UK

#2 Nov 2, 2011
Dogen wrote:
What controversy? ID died in 2005. Not that any serious biologists ever considered it to be alive.
Alfred Wallace took Intelligent design seriously, check out a book called "intelligent evolution" it goes through Wallace and his life and his later opposition to Darwins theory, instead putting his own theory of evolution across which was "intelligent" and "directed". Wallace was a serious biologist.

“I am Sisyphus”

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#3 Nov 2, 2011
Shadow wrote:
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Alfred Wallace took Intelligent design seriously, check out a book called "intelligent evolution" it goes through Wallace and his life and his later opposition to Darwins theory, instead putting his own theory of evolution across which was "intelligent" and "directed". Wallace was a serious biologist.

At the same time the U.S. was engaged in the civil war.

Seriously. Don't make me tell you about Santa and the tooth faerie too!

Since: Jan 08

Crockett, CA

#4 Nov 5, 2011
There is no controversy, evolution is science, intelligent design is religion.
shadow

Moulton, UK

#5 Nov 5, 2011
Pete-o wrote:
There is no controversy, evolution is science, intelligent design is religion.
Darwin in his book descent of man on the last 3 pages claimed evolution was so complex that it was guided by god. that is science for you is it? sounds like religion to me.

Since: Jan 08

Crockett, CA

#6 Nov 5, 2011
shadow wrote:
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Darwin in his book descent of man on the last 3 pages claimed evolution was so complex that it was guided by god. that is science for you is it? sounds like religion to me.
Can you provide that quote?
Are you aware that we have made other discoveries that Darwin didn't have correct, but for the most part his theory was the most elegant ever devised in history?
The Dude

Ellesmere Port, UK

#7 Nov 5, 2011
Shades still can't understand the difference between theological claims and scientific ones.

The irony here is that on his list of "non-religious opposition to Darwinism" thread, he lists the occasional ID advocate as if that's supposed to be a valid scientific alternative to evolution.
shadow

Moulton, UK

#8 Nov 5, 2011
Pete-o wrote:
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Can you provide that quote?
Are you aware that we have made other discoveries that Darwin didn't have correct, but for the most part his theory was the most elegant ever devised in history?
it wasnt his theory, natural selection goes back 30 years before him to a creationist called blyth who darwin near the end of his life admitted to reading not supressing considering darwin was a theist, darwin was also fond of paleys arguement from design he owned a copy which can still be found in his house today, darwin also admitted to knowing about a fruit farmer called matthews, perhaps the first to suggest natural selection. darwin was also well aware of lamarck and other theorists such as buffon. in other words darwin just stole of their ideas, nothing original, also darwin would of never published anything on natural selection if it wasnt because of alfred wallace. so in other words darwin invented nothing. and his book origin of the species, does not address the origin of species. his books explains minor adaptation, hardly even discusses variation. in his book descent of man he dedicates the whole of the evolutionary process to the christian God. he spent most of his time at the church. he was a theology student, not a scientist.
The Dude

Ellesmere Port, UK

#9 Nov 5, 2011
shadow wrote:
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it wasnt his theory, natural selection goes back 30 years before him to a creationist called blyth who darwin near the end of his life admitted to reading not supressing considering darwin was a theist, darwin was also fond of paleys arguement from design he owned a copy which can still be found in his house today, darwin also admitted to knowing about a fruit farmer called matthews, perhaps the first to suggest natural selection. darwin was also well aware of lamarck and other theorists such as buffon. in other words darwin just stole of their ideas, nothing original, also darwin would of never published anything on natural selection if it wasnt because of alfred wallace. so in other words darwin invented nothing. and his book origin of the species, does not address the origin of species. his books explains minor adaptation, hardly even discusses variation. in his book descent of man he dedicates the whole of the evolutionary process to the christian God. he spent most of his time at the church. he was a theology student, not a scientist.
Yes, we know you like beating up straw-men.(shrug)
shadow

Moulton, UK

#10 Nov 5, 2011
The Dude wrote:
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Yes, we know you like beating up straw-men.(shrug)
wernt u supposed to be in the church 20minutes ago praying to your hereo darwin?:p

Since: Jan 08

Crockett, CA

#11 Nov 5, 2011
shadow wrote:
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it wasnt his theory, natural selection goes back 30 years before him to a creationist called blyth who darwin near the end of his life admitted to reading not supressing considering darwin was a theist, darwin was also fond of paleys arguement from design he owned a copy which can still be found in his house today, darwin also admitted to knowing about a fruit farmer called matthews, perhaps the first to suggest natural selection. darwin was also well aware of lamarck and other theorists such as buffon. in other words darwin just stole of their ideas, nothing original, also darwin would of never published anything on natural selection if it wasnt because of alfred wallace. so in other words darwin invented nothing. and his book origin of the species, does not address the origin of species. his books explains minor adaptation, hardly even discusses variation. in his book descent of man he dedicates the whole of the evolutionary process to the christian God. he spent most of his time at the church. he was a theology student, not a scientist.
He gathered is information in the Galapagos, and yes there were other influences, but he was the first to present it as a cohesive theory, it doesn't matter whether or not who he talked to, who he met, he was the one who presented it first in the most cohesive way. Besides, eventually someone else would have indeed come up with the Evolution Theory, but that really doesn't matter, the fact is it is a theory that has been backed up by ALL the other biological sciences.

Can you provide the passages our chapters he he dedicated to the Christian god?

He was not scientifically trained but he did use the scientific method and applied it to his theories.

whether or not he dedicated a book to anyone bears absolutely nothing on Evolutionary Theory, by the way.
WOW

Bellevue, WA

#12 Nov 7, 2011
Wake me up when Darwin's Mockingbird sings.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#13 Nov 7, 2011
WOW wrote:
Wake me up when Darwin's Mockingbird sings.
The fundies have been squawking for 150 years.(shrug)
PRESTON

Lubbock, TX

#14 Nov 8, 2011
Peas
WOW

Bellevue, WA

#15 Nov 8, 2011
The SCPID theory is a new idea that both sides have been involved with. Lowell Guy should wright a paper describing his oscillation of systems observations.
WOW

Bellevue, WA

#16 Nov 8, 2011
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“I am Sisyphus”

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#17 Nov 8, 2011
WOW wrote:
The SCPID theory is a new idea that both sides have been involved with. Lowell Guy should wright a paper describing his oscillation of systems observations.

Our least favorite local loon weighs in.

Thrilling.

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