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Intelligent Design: Coming To A State Legislature Near You

There are 52849 comments on the www.scientificblogging.com story from May 7, 2008, titled Intelligent Design: Coming To A State Legislature Near You. In it, www.scientificblogging.com reports that:

Religiously motivated strategies to oppose evolution in schools started out with efforts to ban the teaching of evolution. When that approach was struck down by the Supreme Court, Creationists took to arguing that 'Creation Science' was as scientifically legitimate as evolutionary biology, and therefore the two subjects should get equal space in the school curriculum.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#53693 Mar 4, 2014
I can has cheezburger?

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#53694 Mar 10, 2014
Leria wrote:
When are people going to realize that religions (all of them) are lies....... probably never, until we start telling people that they cannot indoctrinate their children with the lies of religion.
What about Indoctrinating them into Atheism? Atheism wants equal rights and protection just as any Religion and The First Amendment gives it to them, but they don't wanna be labeled a Religion..Claim It!! Ever Hear of Pot/Kettle?

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#53695 Mar 10, 2014
Tinka wrote:
I ponder on how long around is it to sit in the chair on top of the world when one has gotten up to take that long walk, what one will has find(s) second hand items and look I used to have one of those things etc...,...
Around when they come the mountain in heels too they are walking talking driving in fast cars gas hogs and conservative as well slow ride pacing zoomers zooming by hey hi later ...
Ponder on Eager...
The question that once was ask of me *how far* I thought that the Universe heads out how long it all is ...
That I think has stuck with me...
Maybe they grabbed earth with a lasso, pulling us in or just a long...
Maybe they got all doped up and thought they indeed grabbed the moon...
Is all we see and seem merely a Dream within a Dream?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#53696 Mar 10, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> What about Indoctrinating them into Atheism?
Can't say I've heard of any such cases in public schools in the US. If it has ever happened, such cases are FAR outnumbered by the attacks on public school education made by creationists over the past century.
pusherman_ wrote:
Atheism wants equal rights and protection just as any Religion and The First Amendment gives it to them, but they don't wanna be labeled a Religion..Claim It!! Ever Hear of Pot/Kettle?
Atheism itself is not a religion as it is about lacking belief in deities and doesn't follow any particular religious doctrines. However for Constitutional purposes, as a group, atheists are guaranteed equal rights as much as anyone from any religious group, as the First Amendment is there to guarantee freedom OF and freedom FROM religion.

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#53697 Mar 10, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't say I've heard of any such cases in public schools in the US. If it has ever happened, such cases are FAR outnumbered by the attacks on public school education made by creationists over the past century.
<quoted text>
Atheism itself is not a religion as it is about lacking belief in deities and doesn't follow any particular religious doctrines. However for Constitutional purposes, as a group, atheists are guaranteed equal rights as much as anyone from any religious group, as the First Amendment is there to guarantee freedom OF and freedom FROM religion.
Yes they are guaranteed and get equal rights. They are just as Religious about their "Faith" as any other.. Claim It! They have their "Church's" where they congregate just as any other, Claim It! They have "Preachers" that give "Sermons" Sounds a [email protected] lot like Religion to me.. Claim It! F-KN Cowards! I know exactly what Atheism is. Claim It! If you get the same protection from The Amendments it should label you as such! Children need protection from Atheist belief just as any other "Religion" I am not a religious person but you should like a "Religious" Hypocrite to me! It fits you.. Claim It!

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#53698 Mar 11, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Yes they are guaranteed and get equal rights. They are just as Religious about their "Faith" as any other.. Claim It! They have their "Church's" where they congregate just as any other, Claim It! They have "Preachers" that give "Sermons" Sounds a [email protected] lot like Religion to me.. Claim It! F-KN Cowards! I know exactly what Atheism is. Claim It! If you get the same protection from The Amendments it should label you as such! Children need protection from Atheist belief just as any other "Religion" I am not a religious person but you should like a "Religious" Hypocrite to me! It fits you.. Claim It!
Religion (definition):

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rel...

1: the belief in a god or in a group of gods

2: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods

3: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

<end cut/paste>

Note that definitions 1 & 2 cannot be used to describe "atheism". Definition #3 could describe atheism in a very broad sense, but it could also fit those that are baseball aficionados or motorcycle riders.

Atheism is not a religion.

Since: Mar 12

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#53699 Mar 11, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Yes they are guaranteed and get equal rights. They are just as Religious about their "Faith" as any other.. Claim It! They have their "Church's" where they congregate just as any other, Claim It! They have "Preachers" that give "Sermons" Sounds a [email protected] lot like Religion to me.. Claim It! F-KN Cowards! I know exactly what Atheism is. Claim It! If you get the same protection from The Amendments it should label you as such! Children need protection from Atheist belief just as any other "Religion" I am not a religious person but you should like a "Religious" Hypocrite to me! It fits you.. Claim It!
Religion: Believe in X without evidence, faith is good, faith is a virtue, and you will be rewarded for striving to believe in spite of a lack of evidence.

Rational Skepticism: Don't believe something unless evidence and logic support it. Doubt is good, doubt is a virtue.

There may be a few "religious atheists" of the kind that positively insist there is no God although they cannot prove it, but most atheists take the more skeptical position that there is simply no reason to believe in God because there is no evidence for God. In other words, most atheists merely take a skeptical view, not a dogmatic "anti-God" one.

Its pretty silly calling something that has the opposite foundation to religion, another religion. Because in all religion, faith in some form is a virtue, whereas in skepticism, faith is a folly, and most atheists are simply skeptics. That means if you could ever show valid evidence for your God belief, they would be willing to accept it.

However, in thousands of years, nobody has ever provided any good evidence for God. So your chances are slim. I suppose you better stick to the old "terror of death" and "our benevolent and loving God will torment you eternally in burning pain for your insubordination" threats, since it seems to be all you and your kind have got.

Manages to sway a few cowards, I guess.

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#53700 Mar 11, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Religion (definition):
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rel...
1: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
2: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
3: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group
<end cut/paste>
Note that definitions 1 & 2 cannot be used to describe "atheism". Definition #3 could describe atheism in a very broad sense, but it could also fit those that are baseball aficionados or motorcycle riders.
Atheism is not a religion.
Yes it is, Claim it! you get protection and equal rights as one! y'all went whining and crying all the way to the white house with it, felt left out. I can't believe they buckle to ever little crying group that wants something. you Gay-Theist are just like the black man, not worth a F-K!

Since: Feb 14

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#53701 Mar 11, 2014
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Religion: Believe in X without evidence, faith is good, faith is a virtue, and you will be rewarded for striving to believe in spite of a lack of evidence.
Rational Skepticism: Don't believe something unless evidence and logic support it. Doubt is good, doubt is a virtue.
There may be a few "religious atheists" of the kind that positively insist there is no God although they cannot prove it, but most atheists take the more skeptical position that there is simply no reason to believe in God because there is no evidence for God. In other words, most atheists merely take a skeptical view, not a dogmatic "anti-God" one.
Its pretty silly calling something that has the opposite foundation to religion, another religion. Because in all religion, faith in some form is a virtue, whereas in skepticism, faith is a folly, and most atheists are simply skeptics. That means if you could ever show valid evidence for your God belief, they would be willing to accept it.
However, in thousands of years, nobody has ever provided any good evidence for God. So your chances are slim. I suppose you better stick to the old "terror of death" and "our benevolent and loving God will torment you eternally in burning pain for your insubordination" threats, since it seems to be all you and your kind have got.
Manages to sway a few cowards, I guess.
I know what it is!

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#53702 Mar 11, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it is, Claim it! you get protection and equal rights as one! y'all went whining and crying all the way to the white house with it, felt left out. I can't believe they buckle to ever little crying group that wants something. you Gay-Theist are just like the black man, not worth a F-K!
Now THAT was an intelligent reply!
Just the type to be offered from a fundimentalist (in name only) Christian.

Well done, pusher. Well done.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#53703 Mar 11, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Yes they are guaranteed and get equal rights. They are just as Religious about their "Faith" as any other.. Claim It! They have their "Church's" where they congregate just as any other, Claim It! They have "Preachers" that give "Sermons" Sounds a [email protected] lot like Religion to me.. Claim It! F-KN Cowards!
While there are certainly some "fundamentalist" atheists that exist, in general most atheists just go about their lives doing normal every day stuff without the need to engage in any kind of religious ritual.
pusherman_ wrote:
I know exactly what Atheism is.
Apparently not.

Of course fundamentalist theists can't understand any other view other than their own, so they assume that anyone with a differing point of view is really just like them, merely of a different stripe. You assume that just because most people like football and you're a Raiders fan that they must like another team like Redskins or something. But in reality they just don't care about football.(shrug)
pusherman_ wrote:
Claim It! If you get the same protection from The Amendments it should label you as such!
No, because the First Amendment guarantees freedom of, and freedom FROM religion.
pusherman_ wrote:
Children need protection from Atheist belief just as any other "Religion"
And they have it.
pusherman_ wrote:
I am not a religious person but you should like a "Religious" Hypocrite to me! It fits you.. Claim It!
No need for me to claim one of your caricatures just because you don't understand a concept.(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#53704 Mar 11, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Yes it is, Claim it! you get protection and equal rights as one! y'all went whining and crying all the way to the white house with it, felt left out. I can't believe they buckle to ever little crying group that wants something. you Gay-Theist are just like the black man, not worth a F-K!
Gee, how dare anyone demand equal representation, as guaranteed under the Constitution. They must be religious!(/sarcasm)

And to think when you first showed up I thought you might show a glimmer of rationality. Oh well.

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#53705 Mar 11, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Now THAT was an intelligent reply!
Just the type to be offered from a fundimentalist (in name only) Christian.
Well done, pusher. Well done.
FYI~ I am not a christian, just tired of everyone whining and crying! claim It!

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#53706 Mar 11, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, how dare anyone demand equal representation, as guaranteed under the Constitution. They must be religious!(/sarcasm)
And to think when you first showed up I thought you might show a glimmer of rationality. Oh well.
You thought wrong! next thing you know, you Gay-Theist will want a xmas float right between the pornstar and satan worshiper float. like the black man, you think America owes you something.. black @$$ prez legalizing gay marriage, putting us farther in debt, giving atheist first amendment rights, w/out labeling them. maybe next we will be drafted by the state and our only purpose will be to serve it? our opinions want matter and want be heard unless it is in support of said state.. yeah boy, America! home of the free and bucklers of every whim!! next they'll want to put a statue of satan up at the capital, oh wait, isn't oklahoma already petitioning for that? what's America coming to when the moral fabric is coming apart at the seams holding it together?

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#53707 Mar 11, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
While there are certainly some "fundamentalist" atheists that exist, in general most atheists just go about their lives doing normal every day stuff without the need to engage in any kind of religious ritual.
<quoted text>
Apparently not.
Of course fundamentalist theists can't understand any other view other than their own, so they assume that anyone with a differing point of view is really just like them, merely of a different stripe. You assume that just because most people like football and you're a Raiders fan that they must like another team like Redskins or something. But in reality they just don't care about football.(shrug)
<quoted text>
No, because the First Amendment guarantees freedom of, and freedom FROM religion.
<quoted text>
And they have it.
<quoted text>
No need for me to claim one of your caricatures just because you don't understand a concept.(shrug)
Wah, Wah, Blah, Blah.. Claim it!!

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#53708 Mar 11, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> FYI~ I am not a christian, just tired of everyone whining and crying! claim It!
MOST of the whining and crying are THEISTS trying to assert their religious beliefs on everyone else. Not to say there aren't some ATHEISTS trying to do the same, but most atheists have long since recognized the sham that organized religion is, and are quietly ignoring the theists.

But when theists attempt to get Creationism/Intelligent Design taught AS SCIENCE, in public school SCIENCE classrooms, that I personally raise hell.

....and you can stick your 'whining and crying' comment right up your ass.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#53709 Mar 11, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> You thought wrong! next thing you know, you Gay-Theist will want a xmas float right between the pornstar and satan worshiper float. like the black man, you think America owes you something.. black @$$ prez legalizing gay marriage, putting us farther in debt, giving atheist first amendment rights, w/out labeling them. maybe next we will be drafted by the state and our only purpose will be to serve it? our opinions want matter and want be heard unless it is in support of said state.. yeah boy, America! home of the free and bucklers of every whim!! next they'll want to put a statue of satan up at the capital, oh wait, isn't oklahoma already petitioning for that? what's America coming to when the moral fabric is coming apart at the seams holding it together?
Wow.

You are SUCH an ignorant as_hole.

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#53710 Mar 11, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
MOST of the whining and crying are THEISTS trying to assert their religious beliefs on everyone else. Not to say there aren't some ATHEISTS trying to do the same, but most atheists have long since recognized the sham that organized religion is, and are quietly ignoring the theists.
But when theists attempt to get Creationism/Intelligent Design taught AS SCIENCE, in public school SCIENCE classrooms, that I personally raise hell.
....and you can stick your 'whining and crying' comment right up your ass.
Sounds like an Apologist to me. you are no different.. I always heard, if you wanna get to heaven, you gotta raise a little hell! you're pathetic with your Apologist argument for atheism! AH, I didn't mean to piss in your coffee this morn.. Here ( handing you a kleenex) dry your tears!

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#53711 Mar 11, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Sounds like an Apologist to me. you are no different.. I always heard, if you wanna get to heaven, you gotta raise a little hell! you're pathetic with your Apologist argument for atheism! AH, I didn't mean to piss in your coffee this morn.. Here ( handing you a kleenex) dry your tears!
So, do you have a position as to the teaching of Creationism/Intelligent Design vs Evolution in public school classrooms?

Or are you just a thread troll.

I'm betting the latter, DESPERATELY seeking attention of any kind.

Since: Feb 14

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#53712 Mar 11, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow.
You are SUCH an ignorant as_hole.
Pot/Kettle. Ignorance has nothing to do with the Facts.. fact is you Gay-Theist are the minority and you think America should bow down to ya. Truth is Moral America don't stand a chance anymore because of weak hearted people in high places that don't have the guts to say no! Ask Not What The Country Can Do For You, But What You Can Do For Your Country! Totally Lost In America Today!



there is what America needs

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